Nice wines I have drunk recently - Red or White

[Wozza]

Re: Nice Wines I have DranK Recently - Red or White

And that it is an unusual blend - unique.....

I have no idea what it is. But it's like a Pinot GSM or a Merlot something or other! Unusual, but it works. Whatever it is!

 

[TheRealTMA]

Re: Nice Wines I have DranK Recently - Red or White

I have no idea what it is. But it's like a Pinot GSM or a Merlot something or other! Unusual, but it works. Whatever it is!

Someone needs one of these!

Subway style Wine Descriptions Chart (Infographic) | Wine Folly

 

[Major]

Re: Nice Wines I have DranK Recently - Red or White

Someone needs one of these!

Subway style Wine Descriptions Chart (Infographic) | Wine Folly

Looks like a map of the Tube

 

[TheRealTMA]

Re: Nice Wines I have DranK Recently - Red or White

Looks like a map of the Tube

Well, just like the Tube map, I think the designers need an award for condensing Wazza's and Buzzard's brains into such an ordered, understandable chart!

 

[TheRealTMA]

Re: Nice Wines I have DranK Recently - Red or White

Just to show that I do occasionally drink mortal wines, tonight's is a HVWS dozen offer.



Quite quaffable, actually. Nice depth and gentle spice on the aftertaste.

 

[Steady]

Re: Nice Wines I have DranK Recently - Red or White

TheRealTMA drinks Merlot ! :shock:

 

[TheRealTMA]

Re: Nice Wines I have DranK Recently - Red or White

TheRealTMA drinks Merlot ! :shock:

Sushhh! Sushhh!

 

[Buzzard]

Re: Nice Wines I have DranK Recently - Red or White

Looks a bit light on and cherryish? Young Pinot, Barberra, Gammay? Vino Nuovo?

Tell us more Buzzard! (And Wozza.)

The wine is made by students at the School of Agriculture Food and Wine, The University of Adelaide, our future winemakers. It is a Grenache Shiraz Tempranillo blend, 2013 IIRC. I have some more detail at work and will also speak to my contact to find out a bit more. For those that came to the last Barossa tour, you might remember being given a splash during lunch at Pindari.

 

[Wozza]

Re: Nice Wines I have DranK Recently - Red or White

So I have just completely blind tasted Buzzard's mystery wine. The only thing I know about this bottle is it's wine and it came from Buzzard!

I have just sent my preliminary tasting notes to Buzzard. But I cannot locate the sent email (is there a way I can find a sent email? My IT skills are next to useless). I was going to upload my notes here, no doubt in the embarrassing expectation I have got it completely wrong!

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Okay. Here comes the embarrassing Guess The Mystery Wine - And Get it COMPLETELY WRONG post!

My notes said:

Colour: vivid ruby with clear watered edge

Body: light, clear, pristine.

Nose: concentrated sweet cherry and red currents dominate, with a touch of briary mulberries and delicate strawberries and cream, sweet vanillin cedar oak, and a whiff of flora, pepper and spice at the edge

Palate: delicate but quickly lifts with intense, gripping, slightly sour cherries, red currents and mulberries, before settling into a gentle wave of slightly drying dark cherries, red currents and tingling pepper and spice

Blind guess: Pinot Noir. Adelaide Hills. Warmer climate. Close planted? Hand made techniques - hand picked, destemming, bit of whole bunch/whole berry maybe or skin contact, cold soak? Around 13 % ABV. American oak. 12 months.

Completely wrong!

It's a GST! Named in honour of that tax bought in to take from the poor. So the rich could keep their tax breaks!! Buzz said it was:

a "Grenache Shiraz Tempranillo blend, made by students at the School of Agriculture Food and Wine, University of Adelaide"

Just goes to show. I know nar'thing!! So the official Vivino post can be found here:

http://www.vivino.com/users/8818052/activities/100957958

Thanks Buzz for the kind gift and challenge. Much appreciated.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Re: Nice Wines I have DranK Recently - Red or White

Okay. Here comes the embarrassing Guess The Mystery Wine - And Get it COMPLETELY WRONG post!

My notes said:

Colour: vivid ruby with clear watered edge

Body: light, clear, pristine.

Nose: concentrated sweet cherry and red currents dominate, with a touch of briary mulberries and delicate strawberries and cream, sweet vanillin cedar oak, and a whiff of flora, pepper and spice at the edge

Palate: delicate but quickly lifts with intense, gripping, slightly sour cherries, red currents and mulberries, before settling into a gentle wave of slightly drying dark cherries, red currents and tingling pepper and spice

Blind guess: Pinot Noir. Adelaide Hills. Warmer climate. Close planted? Hand made techniques - hand picked, destemming, bit of whole bunch/whole berry maybe or skin contact, cold soak? Around 13 % ABV. American oak. 12 months.

Completely wrong!

It's a GST! Named in honour of that tax bought in to take from the poor. So the rich could keep their tax breaks!! Buzz said it was:

a "Grenache Shiraz Tempranillo blend, made by students at the School of Agriculture Food and Wine, University of Adelaide"

Just goes to show. I know nar'thing!! So the official Vivino post can be found here:

http://www.vivino.com/users/8818052/activities/100957958

Thanks Buzz for the kind gift and challenge. Much appreciated.

I think you did very well! A Grenache Shiraz Tempranillo blend is very difficult to discern or distinguish. What does one look for in the palate?

Students (and supervisors) have done well.

Bring on climate change!

 

[Wozza]

Re: Nice Wines I have DranK Recently - Red or White

I think you did very well! A Grenache Shiraz Tempranillo blend is very difficult to discern or distinguish. What does one look for in the palate?

Students (and supervisors) have done well.

Bring on climate change!

Thank you kind sir.

I'll be interested to see the blend % split between the three grapes, as it was pretty sweet at the front end for a Grenache dominant blend.

I have a mystery Pinot Noir blend coming next, courtesy of the good guys at Vivino. It will be interesting to see how that turns out. I have yet to try the Thousand Candles, and see which side of the love it or hate it fence I would fall. I suspect it would be the love it, as I like a wine that dares to be different (thinking of the elegant Hare's Chase amongst it's bold Barossan beasts).

And I agree. The students and supervisors have done really well. As the wine could easily pass for commercial standard. I rated it a Wozza 3.3/5.0 or 90/100. That's pretty good, sitting around the good quaffer range for my scoring.

 

[Rocket09]

I noticed some recommendations on decanting the Hannah Swing so have just cracked a bottle for later. I had a sip on opening and didn't notice anything I don't like - bring on dinner
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Your thoughts on this Steady?

 

[Steady]

A very enjoyable Shiraz- balanced fruit, tannin and acid. Not peppery to me.

I'm glad I have 11 more but I rate the HH Gundagai Shiraz above it and it was cheaper.

 

[beefarmer]

A came across a very interesting reply from a writer that I take notice of. His reviews are balanced and honest, but it his insight into a matter we all recently ( many months ago ) discussed, particularly the influence of a white grape in certain red wine production. The writer is Andrew Graham and how I actually came across this reply to my 2014 query I cannot deduce. However, Viognier is the white grape and knowledge is a wonderful thing. I am sorry that I don't have the original article to what Andrew wrote about, but I think the dialogue speaks for itself.

Your comment about the purple lift is interesting. Are you saying that the addition of the viognier turns the wine into something purple when it blends with the shiraz? I didn't know this but I have had may reds over the years and most of the purple hued ones were from w.a. Considering that viognier is the only white Rhone varietal allowed, could i deduce that many w.a. cabernets and shirazes with their purple hues have secretly, well not labelled anyway, had the viognier added? cheers, and thanks for the good reviews. CJ, melbourne.

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  ozwinereview December 3, 2014 at 11:44 PM
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  Viognier is known to 'fix' colour in Shiraz and give it a colour enhancement. That enhancement comes from the contribution of the Viognier skin flavonols helping to produce a hyperchromic shift.
  I'd wager that plenty of Shiraz in WA has some Viognier added, though with additions of less than 15% it doesn't need to be indicated on the label.
  Conversely, many red wines are purple when they're very young (ie just after fermentation) and become less purple and more red over time (and with oxygenation via barrel ageing). There are some wines that are just purple full stop, like Hunter Shiraz which always looks purple. Some Cabernet juice can look almost blue when it first comes out, matching the blue/purple coloured grapes. It's less likely that their would be Viognier in a Cabernet blend though (but not unheard of).
  
  

 

[Whodoesthat]

A quite arvo blind tasting of four got a tad out of hand....a great lineup...Stand outs were the Torbreck 2002 Descendent, Xanadu Reserve 2012 Cabernet, Stonewell 2004,Cape Mentelle 2007,Castagna Syrah, the last of the sparkling Show 1985,......not a bad one amongst...helluva slow start today though.. The final pic kindly forwarded by my generous
host who did manage to get out of bed at a reasonable hour.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Tonight's fare over onion tart and pizza on BBQ stone.



Barolo was yum. Not an expensive drop, not particularly highly rated, but aged nicely, opened hour before, with quite mellow tannins and well integrated fruit. NZ Chardonnay was delicious as usual with lovely lime, and some butter flavours.

 

[Steady]

An easy drinking Barossa GSM for me tonight

 

[AnonymousCoward]

Some long weekend drinking:



d'Arenberg Dead Arm 2008 - disappointing. Whilst nicely structured, it was severly lacking in any sort of flavour on the palate - no real fruit, no McLaren Vale chocholate. Hope if was just a dud bottle. Very different to any other previous Dead Arm I recall.
Grant Burge Meshch 2009 - OK, now we are back in business with Barossa boldness - dark fruits and earth, tannins still a bit raw but I guess it needs a bit more time (part of a 6-pack from the recent Accolade sale, so just opening one to see the box is OK)
Wynns Michael Shiraz 2010 - This was cut above - already smooth drinking, with big fruit flavours tempered by oak and integrated tannins, this is something I look forward to trying again in several years. This is excellent.

 

[JohnM]

d'Arenberg Dead Arm 2008 - disappointing. Whilst nicely structured, it was severly lacking in any sort of flavour on the palate - no real fruit, no McLaren Vale chocholate. Hope if was just a dud bottle. Very different to any other previous Dead Arm I recall.

I also opened a 2008 Dead Arm during the week and found it rather drab. I have a 2009 Michael that I'll leave slumbering for a while.

 

[Wozza]

For lovers of Northern Rhone Syrah, I would recommend:

the Moppity Vineyards Reserve Shiraz 2010

I wish I could upload the photo of Lake Conjola where I shared this lovely bottle of wine as the sun set. It's not too far (at least in Aussie geography terms) from the Hilltops region, Southern NSW where Moppity Vineyards is based.

On Cellar Tracker (with a shorter note on Vivino) I posted the following review:

2010 Moppity Vineyards Shiraz Reserve, Australia, New South Wales, Southern New South Wales, Hilltops - CellarTracker

http://www.vivino.com/users/8818052/activities/60347441

"A Northern Rhone-esk 94+/100 (4.1/5.0) from me. This Cool Climate Reserve Shiraz hails from the highest elevated vineyards in the Hilltops, Australia. The winery was recently voted 'Best NSW Winery'. And the wine picked up a show Gold and also an impressive 97 from Halliday who said it was "deeply complex with a nod to the Northern Rhone".

The nose and medium bodied palate synchronise beautifully to display a Shiraz (and 2% Viognier) with Northern Rhone-esk qualities. As raspberries, blackberries, dark cherries, meaty game, a touch of liquorice, violets, pepper a spice roll majestically and seamlessly from the first whiff all the way through to the fine, lingering aftertaste.

It's a very elegant, pristine Cool Climate Shiraz that is just starting to develop nicely. Try again in 2020."

There is a skewed picture of Lake Conjola in the Vivino link. Enjoy the public holiday for those still enjoying a long weekend.