Nice wines I have drunk recently - Red or White

Out of curiosity, why the decision to decant for so long? I thought the generally accepted approach to older wines that are likely past their drinking window is to drink shortly after decanting before oxidation deteriorates them. No? Maybe they judged the window incorrectly and it was a stayer?

That was also my understanding; decanting works to "age" the wine, so good for younger wines, but for older wines is more likely to push them over the edge. We only made that mistake once.
 
That was also my understanding; decanting works to "age" the wine, so good for younger wines, but for older wines is more likely to push them over the edge. We only made that mistake once.

Edit - post came across preachy and wanky.

I decant old wine to remove sediment, but don't leave it for an extended period.
 
Edit - post came across preachy and wanky.

I decant old wine to remove sediment, but don't leave it for an extended period.

We found with ours that we started drinking immediately, but by the time we got to the last glass, it was well gone. But I do read about people here and elsewhere recommending that old wines be decanted for hours on end, and I do wonder whether they are killing the wines...
 
We drank a (half) bottle of Inniskillin 2006 oak aged Ice Wine the other evening. It was outstanding. I wish I could buy some more.
 
That was also my understanding; decanting works to "age" the wine, so good for younger wines, but for older wines is more likely to push them over the edge. We only made that mistake once.

Depends on the type of wine and how it was constructed. A young wine made for drinking now isn't going to benefit from decanting. On the other hand an 'old' wine that has another 20 years in it will.

Example: I opened a 1996 Chaputier Cote Rotie earlier this year. After three hours sitting in the bottle it was still closed with some barnyard funk developing. Had to dump it into a carafe and wait another hour before it came good.
 
Well, I suspect I am not the only one wasting their time with the Census this evening! Got completely though it (after a billion crashes) only for the whole site to go down. I see from the FaceBook Census page that I am not the only one! Lots of very frustrated people. Oh well. I'll head back to the day (I mean spill into the evening) job as I finish:

the Maverick Twins GSM 2009

http://www.vivino.com/users/warren-dav/reviews/50736532

http://www.cellartracker.com/w?1428273

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"A bargain, aged Barossa GSM. It's much lighter and less nuanced than the 2010. The nose is still a little heady with the alcohol. But it had such a round, velvety smooth mouthfill for a light-medium bodied wine. There was a nice sweet and sour contrast between the sweet dark cherries, blackberries and mulberries, and the sweet tar, fennel, rosemary and fine spice that lift mid palate and follow through for a nice finish. It was finely balanced and really pleasing to drink. At under $10 for a cellared 09, it's a bargain. Hence a Wozza 93.5/100 (3.9/5.0) from me."
 
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Out of curiosity, why the decision to decant for so long? I thought the generally accepted approach to older wines that are likely past their drinking window is to drink shortly after decanting before oxidation deteriorates them. No? Maybe they judged the window incorrectly and it was a stayer?

To be honest - no other reason than curiosity - I opened it perhaps midday to see if it would even be OK. Had two sips and it seemed fine. So rather than re-cork I poured it into decanter and just left it. When it was eventually drunk I don't think there was any difference.

I am, by the way, no expert on wines or even how best to drink them. This forum is perhaps way over my head but providing some useful info!
 
Well, I suspect I am not the only one wasting their time with the Census this evening! Got completely though it (after a billion crashes) only for the whole site to go down. I see from the FaceBook Census page that I am not the only one! Lots of very frustrated people. Oh well. I'll head back to the day (I mean spill into the evening) job as I finish:

the Maverick Twins GSM 2009

http://www.vivino.com/users/warren-dav/reviews/50736532

2009 Maverick Wines Twins Grenache Shiraz Mourvedre, Australia, South Australia, Barossa, Eden Valley - CellarTracker

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"A bargain, aged Barossa GSM. It's much lighter and less nuanced than the 2010. The nose is still a little heady with the alcohol. But it had such a round, velvety smooth mouthfill for a light-medium bodied wine. There was a nice sweet and sour contrast between the sweet dark cherries, blackberries and mulberries, and the sweet tar, fennel, rosemary and fine spice that lift mid palate and follow through for a nice finish. It was finely balanced and really pleasing to drink. At under $10 for a cellared 09, it's a bargain. Hence a Wozza 93.5/100 (3.9/5.0) from me."
I knew the census on-line catastrophe was coming. so went to a mates and enjoyed a couple of reds. The census has till September 30th to be completed, so plenty of time for me, or the better half come to think of it, to complete it at our leisure. Now is for much more enjoyable things and I am glad Wozza you have managed to find the perfect anaesthetic to relieve yourself of pain census. Those maverick boys certainly punch well above their weight.

Started with the old Griffith based Westend winery's, now called Calabria Wines, cool climate Hilltops shiraz 2015. A really nice wine where they pluck grapes grown near Young NSW. For a Griffith owned but elsewhere sourced grape product, damn good. I believe it sells for about $15. Nice cherry flavours predominantly but throw in a few red berries, very fine oak and you have the picture. Slightly over medium bodied, it had enough texture and great balance to pull it off. I would have no idea where you get one but it was good.

The second was another one from Nicks wine merchants, a Linke shiraz 2014. Coming so soon after the epsilon Barossan shiraz, this wine, albeit alright was not a patch on the other. both from the Barossa, different years though. I think this linke winery is a bit of a side project for the chateau Tanunda people . Maybe it was overshadowed by the former's sweetness but it was certainly a little more acidic. It got better over the hour but still, it's a one bottle only effort. Nice enough without any redeeming characters. A nice Tuesday nighter.
 
To be honest - no other reason than curiosity - I opened it perhaps midday to see if it would even be OK. Had two sips and it seemed fine. So rather than re-cork I poured it into decanter and just left it. When it was eventually drunk I don't think there was any difference.

I am, by the way, no expert on wines or even how best to drink them. This forum is perhaps way over my head but providing some useful info!
Dear Kermatu,

This forum is only going to be over your head if you drink cask wines. If it comes in a bottle, costs more than seven dollars ninety ( don't ask), and YOU like it, then this forum is for you.

And me.
 
Depends on the type of wine and how it was constructed. A young wine made for drinking now isn't going to benefit from decanting. On the other hand an 'old' wine that has another 20 years in it will.

Example: I opened a 1996 Chaputier Cote Rotie earlier this year. After three hours sitting in the bottle it was still closed with some barnyard funk developing. Had to dump it into a carafe and wait another hour before it came good.

I aerate all mine even take an aerator when I go out. I find it really helps a wine open up and show off all it has to offer. As a general question what do other members do? Cheers
 
The second was another one from Nicks wine merchants, a Linke shiraz 2014. Coming so soon after the epsilon Barossan shiraz, this wine, albeit alright was not a patch on the other. both from the Barossa, different years though. I think this linke winery is a bit of a side project for the chateau Tanunda people . Maybe it was overshadowed by the former's sweetness but it was certainly a little more acidic. It got better over the hour but still, it's a one bottle only effort. Nice enough without any redeeming characters. A nice Tuesday nighter.

I've had the Linke Shiraz from Nicks a while back and seem to remember a bit of sales hype "dark, brooding, powerful blah blah" but was also somewhat underwhelmed when it finally landed. The aforementioned attributes are what really elevate my sabot so when I don't find them in spades I feel a tad disappointed! Still, not a BAD wine just not quite what I had conjured up in my admittedly febrile imagination....
 
Got my mix from Different Drop last week, have sampled most of them, but the pet nat-ish ones I think i'll defer passing judgement until I've tried them all ....

2015 Calabria Private Bin Saint Macaire wasn't much on day 1 - but my it developed into a lovely, rich interesting treat on days 2-4. The discussion re decanting is relevant here. Bravo Calabria!

2015 Billy Button The Clandestine Schioppettino is a gorgeous medium-bodied fleshy wonder. Lovely, Thanks Billy Button! :D
 
What to drink tonight?

A bit exxy, but respectable names on the list.


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Dear Kermatu,

This forum is only going to be over your head if you drink cask wines. If it comes in a bottle, costs more than seven dollars ninety ( don't ask), and YOU like it, then this forum is for you.

And me.

I have not tried it yet as I've been a bit crook. Will I like it ? I only paid seven dollars fifty delivered
 

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