( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

[angusburns]

Re: Advice on the most efficient JASA (ASA) out of OOL or BNE

just bonus points, which reduce the cost of a JASA, significantly in the case of the longer ones!

Only by 25% for us lowly Silvers, but I guess Gold get 50% and Plats 75% or something...

 

[markis10]

Re: Advice on the most efficient JASA (ASA) out of OOL or BNE

Only by 25% for us lowly Silvers, but I guess Gold get 50% and Plats 75% or something...

Plats are 100% which means a half priced JASA in some cases!

 

[angusburns]

Re: Advice on the most efficient JASA (ASA) out of OOL or BNE

Plats are 100% which means a half priced JASA in some cases!

WOW!



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[Jeffrey O'Neill]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

sort of on topic, but i rcently book a SIN - SYD JASA which was cheaper than the PE ASA for the same date.

Now all I will need after the trips next year is to get another 120 SCs in 11 months to get to silver.

Hopefully by then I've got enough points for another JASA to or from Asia.

 

[angusburns]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

sort of on topic, but i rcently book a SIN - SYD JASA which was cheaper than the PE ASA for the same date.

Now all I will need after the trips next year is to get another 120 SCs in 11 months to get to silver.

Hopefully by then I've got enough points for another JASA to or from Asia.

Interesting, thanks - good to know that there are wrinkles in the system.

 

[Jeffrey O'Neill]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Interesting, thanks - good to know that there are wrinkles in the system.

not sure if it's a wrinkle, more that i think a certain number of ASAs in each class are available at certain costings. It just pays to chk out the higher classes as they can sometimes be offering quite good deals.

I just wish QF would allow searching on all classes for ASAs like the classic rewards. It's annoying having to do the search 3 times to see what' available.

Now I just want to know why JASAs 1 way out of japan cost over 700K points but a syd - nrt return is < half that. Very strange.

 

[markis10]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

not sure if it's a wrinkle, more that i think a certain number of ASAs in each class are available at certain costings. It just pays to chk out the higher classes as they can sometimes be offering quite good deals..

Its quite common, especially with Domestic trips where all the options are shown with J often being cheaper than saver fares.

 

[serfty]

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I just wish QF would allow searching on all classes for ASAs like the classic rewards. It's annoying having to do the search 3 times to see what' available. ...

It's easier than that; check the loading for your target flight(s) using FlightStats/ExpertFlyer/KVS.

If there is no P/U/Z/X class availability then there will be no F/J/W/YASA's available at classic points costs.

Conversely, if there is P/U/Z/X class availability then there will probably be F/J/W/YASA's available at classic points costs.

 

[wilco]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

It's easier than that; check the loading for your target flight(s) using FlightStats/ExpertFlyer/KVS.

If there is no P/U/Z/X class availability then there will be no F/J/W/YASA's available at classic points costs.

Conversely, if there is P/U/Z/X class availability then there will probably be F/J/W/YASA's available at classic points costs.

can we PM you with date requests??

 

[serfty]

can we PM you with date requests??

Your TA can look them up as well.

Maybe post requests here: http://www.australianfrequentflyer....ility-loadings-upgrade-probability-25311.html

 

[ozbeachbabe]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

I've recently had experience booking 2 x JASA's early December HNL/xSYD/BNE at classic points level for 60,000 points each plus cash of USD1510.78 total for two people.

I just booked another JASA for May next year this time HNL/xSYD/DRW at classic points level for 72,000 points each plus cash of USD998.00 total for two people.

Besides DRW, I was experimenting with JASA's ex HNL to MEL/CNS/PER/BNE - points levels vary, which all show connecting flights that same evening after arriving off QF4 at 1745, however for places like ADL or TSV where the flight(s) from SYD would be the following day the availability says "no available flights" simply because it can't flight an immediate connection. As it is an international ticket the standard IATA definition of a stopover is more than 24 hours so overnighting shouldn't be a problem. In any case this fare permits 2 stopovers.

I rang QF res (prior to booking HNL/xSYD/DRW JASA online myself) to ask them how I can booked HNL/SYD/BNE/TSV but they seemed to be really in the dark about JASA's & said "you'd be better off doing a classic award" which is obviously their comfort zone & I'm thinking NO - I'm better off doing a JASA. TSV is showing a minimum points of 60,000 so for two of us it should be 120,000 & we had 144,000 points available, however when the CSA put the routing in she said we didn't have enough points & I got the distinct impression that she was doing the availability in sectors.

I tried using the multicity tool & found I could get all the sectors in however, whilst it showed HNL/SYD in J the SYD/BNE & BNE/TSV only showed whY but in the J column had the option of eg + 7,200 points to upgrade to J however IMHO you should be allowed to book J on those sectors without having to pay a points surcharge.

The fare basis is UBPASROW & the rules clearly stipulate you can have two stopovers but has anyone out there on AFF actually been able to do anything like this?

Also if anyone is considering a subscription to Expert Flyer, IMHO is really worth it because of the 'flight alert' facility where they email you if the flight(s) you nominate become available in eg P/U/Z/X classes!

Thanks in advance.

 

[Limewood]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

I could be wrong, but my understanding is stopovers are only at international departure or arrival cities.

Are the JASA's you mention return flights? as they sound like a good deal.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

I could be wrong, but my understanding is stopovers are only at international departure or arrival cities.

Are the JASA's you mention return flights? as they sound like a good deal.

I imagine it's logical to have one stopover at the international gateway eg SYD, but it does say two are permitted so one would need to be elsewhere so I was thinking of maybe HNL/SYD/BNE/DRW or HNL/SYD/BNE/TSV.

Those JASA levels are only one way but I think 60K is reasonable plus USD499.38 each way considering the actual cost of paying for J is ridiculously expensive. The status credits earned for just the HNL/SYD sector are 140 which is the same as what you would earn LAX/SYD however the ff points aren't as much.

In some cases the JASA points level maybe less than a classic award eg Classic Award HNL/xSYD/BNE 72K plus taxes of USD363.11 pp one way no stopovers nil points earned vs JASA HNL/xSYD/BNE 60K plus taxes of USD746.25 pp one way 2 stopovers plus ff points & SC earned.

Classic Award HNL/xSYD/DRW 96K plus taxes of USD324.33 no stopovers nil points earned vs JASA HNL/xSYD/DRW 72K points plus taxes USD499.37 pp one way 2 stopovers plus ff points & SC earned.

 

[pagingjoan]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

I'm not sure if this is the correct thread for this post, so please let me know if it should be another.

Have been following this and related threads with great interest, as I've always earned Plat the hard way, and am astonished at what I've been missing with JASAs, in particular.

But, in playing around with potential bookings recently, I keep running into an obstacle, whereby no Business Class options appear when I am searching for ASAs. Plenty of Economy options but no apparent way to search for J or F. Have seen the options appear on the Classic Award pages for the same dates/routes, with the icons to search by PE, J and F - but when I switch to ASA, no such option.

Presumably, it's some dumb newbie mistake, rather than just a factor of the route (Melbourne - Taipei) but I would appreciate someone setting me on the right track.

With thanks, in advance, for any assistance.

 

[markis10]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

QF have not operated to TPE for some time and offer the best value redemption on their metal, you would be better at looking at getting to HKG as a one way JASA then grabing a cheap flight to TPE, coming back its better to spend the $$$ on a CX J flight if you visit TPE a lot!

 

[pagingjoan]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

QF have not operated to TPE for some time and offer the best value redemption on their metal, you would be better at looking at getting to HKG as a one way JASA then grabing a cheap flight to TPE, coming back its better to spend the $$$ on a CX J flight if you visit TPE a lot!

Thank you for those tips, Markis10.
I have been visiting Taiwan, for family reasons, a couple of times a year for the past few years, and have usually done the QF flight to Hong Kong, then Cathay/Dragon Air/EVA to either Taipei or Kaohsiung - but have been able to pick up some J Class specials on QF or EVA.

Thought it worth trying the JASA approach this time but will now tweak my searches to follow your advice.

Thanks again.

 

[markis10]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

J ex TPE has been around $2500 for the last 10 years, if you go more than every 6 months the CX option is cheap and a great way of getting SCs, I have around three trips planned this year myself, so I save the JASAs for elsewhere!

 

[pagingjoan]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

J ex TPE has been around $2500 for the last 10 years, if you go more than every 6 months the CX option is cheap and a great way of getting SCs, I have around three trips planned this year myself, so I save the JASAs for elsewhere!

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That is fantastic!
Thank you again.
Perhaps we will have an opportunity to share a glass of bubbly in the Cathay Lounge some time.

 

[QF WP]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Damn, that is a good fare :shock:...if only I could find a reason for visit to TPE

Getting to TPE as markis10 said above (one-way JASA to HKG then cheap TPE flight), then buying the TPE/Aust/TPE flights...

 

[pagingjoan]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Damn, that is a good fare :shock:...if only I could find a reason for visit to TPE

Getting to TPE as markis10 said above (one-way JASA to HKG then cheap TPE flight), then buying the TPE/Aust/TPE flights...

Maybe the Champagne Bar in the Cathay Lounge en route would tip the balance for you?