( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

[ozmille]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Same leg as a Premium ASA
Trip Price 126,000 points
Charges $8685 HKD $1044 AUD

That seems like a very high charge as the one way fare from HKG to LHR on QF is HKD8620.
If I look at a round trip prem eco from HK to LHR it comes in at AUD2200. Can you use your points to get to HK and pay the return trip from there?

 

[markis10]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

ctrl + PrtScn

Open up MS Paint

"Edit" Menu & Paste

You now have a screen dump to play with!

Not quite, you will note that the images have been cropped which Paint wont do and they are not stored locally so they were not pasted, I tag their location in the HTML.

 

[BVT]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Great thread. Lots of interesting comments and tips.

I was recently able to book a YASA for less than the Classic cost, inlcuding a minimal payment of $$.

Now I am dreaming of a FASA ...

 

[sunbeamrapier]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

I am astonished that people put up with this rigmarole. Save yourself the grief and fly a decent airline like Virgin Australia / Virgin Atlantic.

 

[truesouth]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Here's a sham one for Canberra- Hobart
40 SC out - 70SC back = 110 SC Cost = $270 + 24K pts

 

[markis10]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Here's a sham one for Canberra- Hobart
40 SC out - 70SC back = 110 SC Cost = $270 + 24K pts

I think you mean 80 SC out, 30 back.

 

[cove]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

11sjw,if you are coming Monday night could you bring a laptop to impress me with your computing skills. I could comp you a dinner at the Burswood or the Hyatt smorgasbord!
I have the QF JASA and FASA working a treat and I am making great progress on SQ Kris redemptions. I am proof that tenacity wins out....I got the second Citi credit card working this week for Kris flights.....pretty good seeing my computer skills are near zero.

 

[Andyzx]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

I am astonished that people put up with this rigmarole. Save yourself the grief and fly a decent airline like Virgin Australia / Virgin Atlantic.

Hmm sounds like fighting talk to me :mrgreen:

 

[straitman]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

I am astonished that people put up with this rigmarole. Save yourself the grief and fly a decent airline like Virgin Australia / Virgin Atlantic.

Please explain to us all how you get equivilant value out of the programs you mentioned.

I can't do it though I'm optimistic that things will improve further as the new anouncements continue.

 

[Cecil]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

This is interesting as I have enough points to try it.

 

[angusburns]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Why do you blokes want make a co-payment (cash) with your JASA?

Why not just use all points?

Can't see the advantage... what am I missing?

TIA!

Angus

 

[nickfromeastryde]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Why do you blokes want make a co-payment (cash) with your JASA?

Why not just use all points?

Can't see the advantage... what am I missing?

TIA!

Angus

It comes down to how much you value your points. In my experience the co payment is poor value if you to decide to use the points instead. Just my opinion and especially relevant for JASA and FASA flights

 

[QF WP]

The "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Definitely how you value points and how many you have.

Using my example, I have 95k points and they wanted 74k for BNE/MEL/PER. Even though it's early in my membership year, I need the SC's as I'm about to have 2 months where I'm traveling on award flights and will probably take me another month after that before I fly again. This JASA keeps me on track for requalifying Gold.

My second consideration was by increasing the co-payment (a tax deduction), it decreased the number of points and at 59k with $150, means I still have 35k points and after the credit of miles for both the one way JASA and the return PER/BNE sector + points from CC spend to afford another 59k oneway JASA when I need to go back to PER in July/August.

I am quite happy keeping my QFF points balance low and will keep using points for ODU's and now ASA's. Of course, YMMV.


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[angusburns]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Thanks - that makes sense now. If you have a low FF points balance then the co-payment lets you stretch your FF balance over more JASA's - your cash co-payment becomes synthetic FF points, and if it costs a $100 cash co-payment to reduce the points cost by 10,000 then that is like buying FF points at 1c per point which is ok.

I am the reverse - I have lots of points accumulated almost wholly through the CC expenses of my business over many years. I try to get 3-4% yield on my points when redeeming.

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eg Here are my calcs on a just booked a JASA in March 2012 - QF581/582 - SYD-PER-SYD

Calcs for going Business

FF classic = 72k points business + $48 taxes, at 1FF=1c = $768

FF any seat = 89k points business + earn 5.1k points as well so only 83.9k points net, at 1FF=1c = $839 so $71 more than classic but get 160 SC so cost per SC is 44c compared to booking a classic, non-SC earning, seat.

Cash $4,026 business return so $4,026 / $839 = 4.8% yield, or each point was worth 4.8c on redemption. Also got 2x 80 = 160 status credits so will earn 64% of Silver renew requirements of 250 SC.

Calcs for going Economy

JASA looked optimal to me but I did look at doing it economy as well as not a long flight, I usually go economy domestic and save big burning points for something better on long haul international, so could I justify flying business for this trip?

FF classic = 36k in economy + $48 taxes, at 1FF=1c = $408

FF any seat = 55k in economy + earn 4k points in economy as well so only 51k points net, at 1FF=1c = $510 so $102 more than classic but get 80 SC so cost per SC is $1.27 compared to booking a classic, non-SC earning, seat.

Cash $514 economy return so $514 / $510 = 1% yield, or each point was worth 1c on redemption. Also only got 2x 40 = 80 status credits so will earn 32% of Silver renew requirements of 250 SC.

As I don't fly for work so don't fly much, doing SYD-PER-SYD as a JASA gives me more SC bang for my FF buck.

Final calc for me is that I get to try out Qantas domestic business on SYD-PER-SYD on a 747-400 for $329 more than economy and get 80 more SC when compared to getting an economy ASA (albeit at twice the cost of a classic economy award). So probably worth it - more justifiable than a JASA SYS-CBR-SYD SC run anyway!

If you think that any of my calcs or assumptions are wrong, please respond to let me know - I put this up to see if you think it was an optimal decision.

TIA!

Angus

 

[markis10]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Why do you blokes want make a co-payment (cash) with your JASA?

Why not just use all points?

Can't see the advantage... what am I missing?

TIA!

Angus

Put simply, how can you earn 8200 points for $96 if we use the example on the first post, their conversion of points for $$$ is very favorable, if you earn lots of points you may see such value as poor! I earn and burn quickly so for me 8200 points is one third of another JASA, I average one a month.

 

[serfty]

Why do you blokes want make a co-payment (cash) with your JASA?

Why not just use all points?

Can't see the advantage... what am I missing? ...

It does relate to how you value your points.

The slider seems to value points at between 0.8¢ and 1.1¢ each; I believe I can get at least 2½¢ per point with my most common redemptions.

 

[angusburns]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Interesting, I see your point clearly now. Spending $96 to avoid having to wait to accumulate 8,200 points makes good sense when you want to fly now. I will pass it onto my in-laws as a way that they can make their points go further - thanks!

I work in reverse to you as I have lots of points and try to avoid spending cash, which is why I could not see your benefit.

All is clear now - interesting (albeit obvious in hindsight) how different situations create different parameters to feed into the model, which lead to different outcomes, and thus different uses, of the FF program.

Thank you!

 

[cove]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

Angus you would see how different an account can be by noting in the very first post where the points for the month were coming from.
You and I think of FF points as just another currency where we seek the highest value in exchanging the points for flights.
Serfty and markis10 have it figured where there is no "land of plenty" as most members want to make and burn the points for the best results.
Excellent thoughts are just the beginning.

 

[markis10]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

It all comes down to how you earn and burn as many of you have said, for instance I pretty much live in Priority club hotels so earn massive points there, do I send them QF's way, no, 10000 PC points gets me 2K of QF points.

That 10K of PC points can be bought for USD$60 and thats what I value them at, however I can redeem them presently at the HI Cairns and get $250 worth of value (2 nights at $125 a night) or at the HI Esplanade in DRW and get $600 of value (2 nights at $300 a night at present). I see the value because I often travel to CNS and DRW, saving $600 in DRW may well be of zero value to others as they dont go there, and will transfer that 10K across to QF instead.

 

[cove]

re: ( Now gone) "how do I book a J any seat award at classic award points level" thread.

You are really impressing me markis10 with your Priority Card.
I use it for half price dining so I am miles behind you in its use.
The only time I need extra accommodation in Sydney is around New Year for the celebrations so do you have a deal for that?
You have a really good thing running so I can see why Hyatt in Perth misses the cut for one of our Moderators.To be frank Hyatt Perth is a better place but the PC card wins out every time.
10k points for less than 60 Australian dollars is a sweet plan.