Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[Wilfixyourtravel]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Howdy all, another question, do you know if its possible to OW RT BOS - HON - NRT - MEL, QF is unable to find any airlines that fly HON - NRT yet both AA & JAL fly metal that direction.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Flashback]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Excuse my ignorance, not sure what MMB is? If its my bookings in QF it states class is First.

MMB = Manage My Booking

 

[pangwen]

Howdy all, another question, do you know if its possible to OW RT BOS - HON - NRT - MEL, QF is unable to find any airlines that fly HON - NRT yet both AA & JAL fly metal that direction.

Thanks in advance.

I didn't think that AA or JAL served a tiny airport in Dakota. Perhaps you meant HNL?

Edit: I believe the problem would be HNL-NRT. Perhaps try routing through other Asian ports

 

[Wilfixyourtravel]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

hahaha good pick up. however in QF bookings i did actually put in HNL Honolulu..
Thanks

 

[Wilfixyourtravel]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

This would be part of a round the world trip leaving MEL - DOH - MIA - BOS then onto the others to get home.

Cheers

Howdy all, another question, do you know if its possible to OW RT BOS - HON - NRT - MEL, QF is unable to find any airlines that fly HON - NRT yet both AA & JAL fly metal that direction.

Thanks in advance.

 

[pangwen]

This would be part of a round the world trip leaving MEL - DOH - MIA - BOS then onto the others to get home.

Cheers

Did you try HND instead of NRT as well?

Or via NGO..

 

[Meggsy]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Howdy all, another question, do you know if its possible to OW RT BOS - HON - NRT - MEL, QF is unable to find any airlines that fly HON - NRT yet both AA & JAL fly metal that direction.

Thanks in advance.

JAL fly both HNL -NRT and HNL -HND direct. AA code share on these services

Edit-Apologies, just reread your question. This should be bookable but may not be available to book yourself on line and may require you to phone for an assisted booking and cop the fee that goes with it.

 

[dvt]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

You are essentially looking for award seats that have not been released yet. QF award seats are released 353 days ahead and AA 330. So being that it's about 400 days till your first segment searching now won't do much good.

For the MEL-LAX on QF, you will want to be searching right when the window opens for 14FEB15 as these seats are snapped up very quickly.

Vec, you've misunderstood what I'm asking. I understand that the seats that I want won't be available just yet hence I am not searching for seats that currently aren't available. I am simply trying to see how J class seats are made available for seats which are currently 353 days out. My search has shown that there doesn't appear to be many. Hence, me trying to get on the front foot and seek advice on what other options might be available should the same situation arise when I do actually get to the time of booking

 

[Grooba]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Vec, you've misunderstood what I'm asking. I understand that the seats that I want won't be available just yet hence I am not searching for seats that currently aren't available. I am simply trying to see how J class seats are made available for seats which are currently 353 days out. My search has shown that there doesn't appear to be many. Hence, me trying to get on the front foot and seek advice on what other options might be available should the same situation arise when I do actually get to the time of booking

Ahh ok gotcha. You're right I was wondering how when you said it was impossible to find a J seat, meaning that you could see a Y seat at that time? hah!

If you don't mind going through asia to get to USA (which is generally what I do now on awards) I generally find plenty of J seats up to HKG on QF/CX then onwards to SFO/ORD/JFK/etc with CX.

 

[risky]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I've been working out an ATW in 'J'...285000 points,...

What are the taxes, fuel fines, etc for this likely to be? (understanding that that there is likely to be variability based on destinations, distances, etc)

 

[Nizar]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

What are the taxes, fuel fines, etc for this likely to be? (understanding that that there is likely to be variability based on destinations, distances, etc)

Generally between $1-2k.

 

[Grooba]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

My last 280k booking of SYD-BKK-HKG-FRA-LHR-LAS/JFK-YVR-HKG-PER-SYD all in J with the taxes/fines of a little over $1,000.

 

[immature]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Just wondering what I should use to calculate mileage (to fit within the 35,000 mile limit) - I am planning to book MEL-DXB-LHR-HKG-SIN-NRT-LAX-SYD-MEL which shows as 34,935 miles on Great Circle Mapper. Since it's quite tight, is it possible that QF uses an alternative way of calculating the distance of a trip that may push this over 35,000 miles?

 

[aikman]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Just wondering what I should use to calculate mileage (to fit within the 35,000 mile limit) - I am planning to book MEL-DXB-LHR-HKG-SIN-NRT-LAX-SYD-MEL which shows as 34,935 miles on Great Circle Mapper. Since it's quite tight, is it possible that QF uses an alternative way of calculating the distance of a trip that may push this over 35,000 miles?

Book it online and your itinerary will be rejected if you are over the limit unless you have JAL flights which it looks like you do so you can’t book it online and you’ll only find out if you’re over when you go and book it over the phone.

 

[deejo77]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Got scared of my nearly 1 Million QFF possibly devaluing so I have booked my trips for 2014 and 2015
2014
SIN to HEL - AY
HEL to VCE (via TXL) - AY and AB
VCE to ZRH (via Dusseldorf) - AB
CDG to BNE (via KUL) - MH

2015
BNE to LAX - QANTAS
LAX to SIN (via NRT) - JAL

140K per person - 4 people - Taxes $5650

requested a waiver of the assisted booking fee as JAL and MY are not bookable online - granted, however 3hrs later my friend and daughter going on same flights the CSO would not waive the 6K points per book - not sure if this is right or not and may take it up with customer care.

**forgot to ad the MH flight is on the A380 and I managed to book the first group of 4 into the top deck economy area in the 2 seats

 

[MrHanky]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Planning two itineraries and would like some input on booking & baggage, so I thought I'd consult with the brains trust here

Looking at moving to Europe for 1-2 years with my partner, who is Canadian, and including some time with her family both outbound (she needs to stop there to organise work visas anyway as she doesn't hold an Aussie passport).

I recognise that you cannot visit the same city twice with OWA, so flying to a 'close enough' airport (e.g. YUL/JFK instead of YYZ) but I have no idea about the euro side of things - what is a good alternate airport to fly to instead of LHR?

BKK-HKG
HKG-YYZ
YYZ-LHR
LHR-YYZ
YYZ-LHR

Looking at doing this with J OWA (280k). I snapped up a seat that came available on CX828 HKG-YYZ the other day (I had been searching EVERY DAY for 2 months..). From other posts here it seems that adding sectors (and paying the 3k pts) to make this into a OWA is fairly straightforward? I'm wondering, if I'm monitoring different sectors all the time and trying to snap them up as they become available, to save paying 3k every time, can I book these as individual classic awards and then call up, pay 3k pts and have them combined into a OWA?

Finally, I notice when I pick BKK-HKG,HKG-YYZ for example on one itinerary, I get 30kg baggage from BKK-HKG and '2 pieces' from HKG-YYZ for a classic award. If I add enough sectors to trigger the booking engine into OWA mode, it switches to 2 pieces for the whole itinerary. If booking just a multi-sector classic award, does the 'biggest' baggage allowance of the itinerary carry through? If not, can I request that a classic award be re-booked at the appropriate OWA tier to have the OWA baggage rules apply?

 

[Jacques Vert]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I recognise that you cannot visit the same city twice with OWA, so flying to a 'close enough' airport (e.g. YUL/JFK instead of YYZ) but I have no idea about the euro side of things - what is a good alternate airport to fly to instead of LHR?

The answer to that may depend on what other cities in Europe you would like to visit/transit; and it will certainly depend on what flights are available on or around your dates. Try to be as flexible as you can. Assuming that the way you have listed your flights means that you will have used your 5 stopovers and you want to touch down somewhere with reasonable access back to London, you could consider YYZ-HEL-PAR/AMS/MAN with Finnair or via JFK to MAN.

Also, have you looked at Expert Flyer: Flight Availability | Upgrades | Frequent Flyer Information ?

 

[MTAB]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Expert AFFers. I seem to be missing something quite basic here so any help would be appreciated.

I have 230K points and have been doing some preliminary looking for the future to get two 140K (Y) Oneworld Award tickets towards the end of the year when I should have accumulated the necessary points..

I signed in; chose Multi City and Qantas and Partner Award flights; and, selected dates and flights for the following:
CNS to GLA (via MEL and LHR) on JQ, QF and BA;
GLA to YYZ (via LHR) on BA and BA;
YYZ to ORD on AA;
ORD to SYD (via JFK) on AA and QF;
SYD to BNE on QF; and,
BNE to CNS on QF.

This seems to comprise no more than two transfers in one location, only five stopovers, all Oneworld partner flights, less than sixteen flights, more than three different carriers and less than 35K miles (I calculate approximately 28.3K). It seems to me to meet the rule requirements, however, the total points come out as 402K points and it doesn’t ‘switch’ to the classic Oneworld costing of 280K points.

Any suggestions as to what I am missing? I bet it is something pretty basic.

Much thanks.

 

[deejo77]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

how many flights do you have within Australia?

*just trying to find it in the T&C but can't - but I thought you could not have a stop over in australia on the return. I know when I did the revenue of this ticket inn 2004 I came in via Sydney and went to Adelaide - stayed one night - flew to melbourne stayed a week and then came home to Brisbane but I thought something had changed with this

 

[MTAB]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

how many flights do you have within Australia?

I've got three. How many are allowed? I could change to two flights within Australia (by cutting out the BNE stopover) - would that help?