Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[MEL_Traveller]

What is the point in me typing up a long post on how to do it when the majority will struggle to do it, then ask a load of questions or post that they're struggling to achieve it?

Thanks madrooster!

I guess it’s about giving enough information for those of us so we can go to a TA if we are interested. For example just saying ‘it’s possible for a TA to take advantage of routing rules to add domestic or other segments’ is enough to pique interest, and to follow up if we want to. Acknowledging this isn’t something a non-travel agent can do

Agree lengthy discussions around something we can’t do without access to a TA would be pointless.

 

[SeatBackForward]

To give you a view of the types of things I do for pax:

Can confirm, I am lucky enough to have had @madrooster take care of most of my recent bookings (and by coincidence caught up together in NYC) and the things done beggars belief!

I see it like this - sure you could hack together something yourself with the tools you have and can get from Bunnings compared to getting a professional involved. The professional will look at it from their knowledge, experience, and the superior tools they have at hand and come up with something that is far more effective, and the price paid (albeit not often much in this case) is well worth it.

 

[Daan]

Heya guys been lurking this thread for like half a year now reading everyone's experiences and we managed to book our trip!

It's not ideal and it's all locked in, however, does anyone have any experience with changing flights on the itinerary? We wanted to change one leg in our trip by removing it and adding our new flights but we were quoted 430k Qantas Points for the change (the cost of the classic reward tickets directly). It was still well within the rules of the Oneworld award.

Was there something I could have done to avoid that? Do I need to rebook the whole itinerary?

 

[Phoenix-1]

Which flights were you trying to add? Could be inadvertently breaking the OWCA rules. Not exceeding distance or trying to add a non oneworld carrier?

 

[Daan]

Which flights were you trying to add? Could be inadvertently breaking the OWCA rules. Not exceeding distance or trying to add a non oneworld carrier?

I think I broke the total stopover count. Here's the full list
1. Melb-Syd (This was to get the currency in AUD instead of SGD, I might remove this)
2. Singapore-Johannesburg (via HK)
3. Capetown-London
4. Frankfurt-Tokyo
5. Tokyo-Singapore

I figured it out like 20mins after posting that me trying to add Doha broke the 5 stop rule. So I might get them to remove Melb-Syd and book a london-doha-tokyo and remove stop #4 as well.

 

[motef]

I didn't think the Mel-Syd counts
so it would be
SYD-SIN (stop)
SIN-HKG-JNB (stop)
JNB - CPT (land) (stop)
CPT-LHR (stop)
LHR - FRA (stop)
FRA-NRT (stop)
NRT - SYD

Is that correct?

 

[Daan]

I didn't think the Mel-Syd counts
so it would be
SYD-SIN (stop)
SIN-HKG-JNB (stop)
JNB - CPT (land) (stop)
CPT-LHR (stop)
LHR - FRA (stop)
FRA-NRT (stop)
NRT - SYD

Is that correct?

Mostly correct.

JNB-CPT is a land stopover so thats one total stopover not two.
There is also no LHR-FRA stop we're doing a local euro trip so that should also count as a single land stopover.
Then the final leg was NRT-SIN rather than syd.

Right?

So just to be clear I have already booked and paid for the above which I assume is ticketed as well I have all flights listed as 'confirmed'.

The issue was adding a doha stopover broke the limit so im basically shifting my frankfurt and melbs flight to accomodate for a singapore start instead so it's not counted as a stop.

 

[motef]

Mostly correct.

JNB-CPT is a land stopover so thats one total stopover not two.
There is also no LHR-FRA stop we're doing a local euro trip so that should also count as a single land stopover.
Then the final leg was NRT-SIN rather than syd.

Right?

So just to be clear I have already booked and paid for the above which I assume is ticketed as well I have all flights listed as 'confirmed'.

The issue was adding a doha stopover broke the limit so im basically shifting my frankfurt and melbs flight to accomodate for a singapore start instead so it's not counted as a stop.

So
SYD-SIN (stop)
SIN-HKG-JNB (stop)
JNB - CPT (land)
CPT-LHR (stop)
LHR - NRT (stop)
NRT - SIN

Doesnt it need to finish in Australia?

How many points is it costing at the moment?

 

[djkelly69]

1. Melb-Syd (This was to get the currency in AUD instead of SGD, I might remove this)
2. Singapore-Johannesburg (via HK)
3. Capetown-London
4. Frankfurt-Tokyo
5. Tokyo-Singapore

Not sure you can delete the MEL-SYD leg as it would then be changing the country of origin from Aus to Singapore, and I don't think you are allowed to change country of origin?

 

[Daan]

So
SYD-SIN (stop)
SIN-HKG-JNB (stop)
JNB - CPT (land)
CPT-LHR (stop)
LHR - NRT (stop)
NRT - SIN

Doesnt it need to finish in Australia?

How many points is it costing at the moment?

I don't think you need to finish in the same place you started for the OWA. Maybe for RTW.

It's currently costing the cap of 318k per person so a total of 630k ish total. So it's defo initially triggering the OWA.

Though as @djkelly69 stated maybe I can't change the country of origin? Might be worth me checking with the call centre. I absolutely can't find any flights around that could make it so that SG isn't a stopover lol.

 

[motef]

• You may finish your itinerary in a different city to the one you started from, but the distance between the two cities will be taken into account in the final distance calculation (i.e. as a surface sector).

 

[Daan]

• You may finish your itinerary in a different city to the one you started from, but the distance between the two cities will be taken into account in the final distance calculation (i.e. as a surface sector).

You're correct there. It's going over 35k if I include the distance from SG to mel even though I'm not travelling it. I think that's defo the issue I was hitting there.

Thanks for the callout @motef.

 

[motef]

You're correct there. It's going over 35k if I include the distance from SG to mel even though I'm not travelling it. I think that's defo the issue I was hitting there.

Thanks for the callout @motef.

Have you checked on GCMapper the distance?

 

[Daan]

Have you checked on GCMapper the distance?

Yep. Its at 37k which is over the cap. I need to make some adjustments if I wanna factor DOH in there.

 

[ozflier]

Yep. Its at 37k which is over the cap. I need to make some adjustments if I wanna factor DOH in there.

Award seats especially in Business class are still really rare to find. I wouldn't get your hopes up yet .
Maybe the new CEO , as well as getting rid of Neil Perry may find a way to improve relations with Qatar Air!

 

[f3rancis]

Hi all. Apologies if this has been covered before.

is it possible to have 2 transits and 1 stopover in the same city on a OWCA itinerary? Or does the stopover count as a transfer as well?

 

[Mr H]

Hi all. Apologies if this has been covered before.

is it possible to have 2 transits and 1 stopover in the same city on a OWCA itinerary? Or does the stopover count as a transfer as well?

This is possible

 

[motef]

This is possible

I have done this.

CDG-DOH-SIN
SIN-DOH-MLE
MLE-DOH (stop)
DOH-SYD

 

[f3rancis]

I have done this.

CDG-DOH-SIN
SIN-DOH-MLE
MLE-DOH (stop)
DOH-SYD

Good to know.
@motef @Mr H Thanks for the responses!

 

[deebens]

Anyone else's multi-city blown a gasket?

No matter the origin I get : You will be taken to our Australian site to make this booking. under the first flight.

Any international origin just loops back to error. Tried multiple browsers. Same thing.