Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

[Hvr]

Looking forward to having dinner with you and Mrs drron in a couple of weeks.....maybe between flights, BKK, hotels and general holiday discussions we might reserve 5 mins for this subject

Bet you can't stop at five minutes. You might even labor the point a bit.

 

[Hvr]

Unbelievable if true, Abbott says Turnbull virtually invented the internet in Australia.

Mr Abbott made the comments in a speech to his parliamentary colleagues on Friday morning. He said he had a very "strong" front bench but that there was "one person who I particularly want to mention".

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott during a meeting with Coalition members in the party room at Parliament House. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

"We have a strong and credible broadband policy because the man who has devised it, the man who will implement it, virtually invented the internet in this country. Thank you so much Malcolm Turnbull," he said.

Read more: Who really invented the internet in Australia
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[drross]

Really?????

 

[Isochronous]

Well ozemail were the leading ISP in the 90s.

 

[yeahbut]

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story...

 

[Skyring]

Unbelievable if true, Abbott says Turnbull virtually invented the internet in Australia.

He was referring to Malcolm Turnbull's financial involvement in Ozemail. Nobody thinks Turnbuull cut any code or sorted out the cabling. It was a joke, Joyce. You know, when you introduce someone to a group who knows them extremely well? Like at a wedding when the MC introduces the groom. It is customary to be light-hearted to get the audience in a positive and receptive frame of mind. Reminding them of the speaker's qualifications is a good start. Turnbull might not have tinkered with the switches twenty years back, but he probably has a better chance than most of knowing all this internet business. TA is probably not the goto guy for a history of the internet, and I'm surprised anyone thought he might be!

We could always discuss Rudd's awkward humour...

 

[amaroo]

It was a joke,

...

It's like that ALP saying -

They saved you from the GFC
They're the only ones that care about working families
The carbon tax will save the world
Swan was the worlds greatest treasurer
Gillard never lost an election as PM
We're the only ones that will deliver a surplus
and the list could go on & on & on & on........

You know.......jokes

 

[Skyring]

It's like that ALP saying -

They saved you from the GFC
They're the only ones that care about working families
...
You know.......jokes

[video=youtube_share;qPOPGrtTlp8]http://youtu.be/qPOPGrtTlp8[/video]

 

[Moody]

It's like that ALP saying -

They saved you from the GFC
They're the only ones that care about working families
The carbon tax will save the world
Swan was the worlds greatest treasurer
Gillard never lost an election as PM
We're the only ones that will deliver a surplus
and the list could go on & on & on & on........

You know.......jokes

If by "saved you from the GFC" you mean "avoided the impending recession", then that one is true.

The conservatives care about working families - as long as the poor ones consume, be silent and die. (Joke, Joyce, ... joke).

The carbon tax seems to be having the desired effect and whilst Australia can't save the world we can surely do our bit.

Wayne Swan was annointed as such by Euromoney magazine in 2011, I don't believe he put it on his business card.

Julia Gillard did never lose government as PM. What's your point? Oh - I see ... Jabberwocky.

Anyone can deliver a surplus at any time ... it all depends on the pain and damage you wish to inflict upon the economy when times are bad. But granted
- in the current world economic climate it was foolish to predict a surplus that far ahead and then stick to it for so long when the commodity boom was over. But did they claim to be the only ones who could deliver a surplus? Can you provide a link?

Did you crib your list from an economic luminary like Andrew Bolt???

 

[HarryB]

It's like that ALP saying -

They saved you from the GFC
They're the only ones that care about working families
The carbon tax will save the world
Swan was the worlds greatest treasurer
Gillard never lost an election as PM
We're the only ones that will deliver a surplus
and the list could go on & on & on & on........

You know.......jokes

There is a list equally as long for the opposition. The slogans you parrot really depend on your political leanings.

 

[drsmithy]

It's like that ALP saying -

They saved you from the GFC
They're the only ones that care about working families
The carbon tax will save the world
Swan was the worlds greatest treasurer
Gillard never lost an election as PM
We're the only ones that will deliver a surplus
and the list could go on & on & on & on........

You know.......jokes

Except Abbot's quote was, well, a quote, while the above is a list of hyperbolic paraphrasing...

 

[Skyring]

The carbon tax seems to be having the desired effect and whilst Australia can't save the world we can surely do our bit.

How much coal are we selling to China each year? Been to China recently? What do you think they might be doing with all that Australian coal apart from burning it and thickening up the smog?

Australia's CO2 emissions for a year amounts to a month of China's emission increase. Increase. That's right. They go up on a monthly basis by what we put out in a year.

Rudd called it the greatest moral challenge, Gillard said it was a clean energy future, but by their actions both denied their words.

 

[Moody]

How much coal are we selling to China each year? Been to China recently? What do you think they might be doing with all that Australian coal apart from burning it and thickening up the smog?

Australia's CO2 emissions for a year amounts to a month of China's emission increase. Increase. That's right. They go up on a monthly basis by what we put out in a year.

Rudd called it the greatest moral challenge, Gillard said it was a clean energy future, but by their actions both denied their words.

I agree with you, Skyring, and that is why the Climate Change Committee said that 80% of the world's fossil fuels need to stay in the ground. Oh sorry - you may not have heard that news if you only consume the Murdoch media fodder for fools.

But how do you break it to the bogans that we can't keep flogging coal to the world and that means no second 60-inch 3-D TV this year? I tell you they will go screaming and hide under Tony's skirts before you can get a sentence out!

 

[Pushka]

But how do you break it to the bogans that we can't keep flogging coal to the world and that means no second 60-inch 3-D TV this year? I tell you they will go screaming and hide under Tony's skirts before you can get a sentence out!

You assume they vote coalition then? I don't.

 

[Pukka]

I agree with you, Skyring, and that is why the Climate Change Committee said that 80% of the world's fossil fuels need to stay in the ground. Oh sorry - you may not have heard that news if you only consume the Murdoch media fodder for fools.

But how do you break it to the bogans that we can't keep flogging coal to the world and that means no second 60-inch 3-D TV this year? I tell you they will go screaming and hide under Tony's skirts before you can get a sentence out!

Wrong again 60" is so last year 80" is the latest and greatest apparently.

Nice idea about the coal though let's just leave it all where it is, sack everyone that works in the mining industry and watch China buy it from someone else.

That'll do wonders for the economy.

 

[Moody]

You assume they vote coalition then? I don't.

I'm referring to the bogans from Mosman\Toorak\etc.....

 

[Moody]

Wrong again 60" is so last year 80" is the latest and greatest apparently.

Nice idea about the coal though let's just leave it all where it is, sack everyone that works in the mining industry and watch China buy it from someone else.

That'll do wonders for the economy.

QED

[from the latin].

 

[Pushka]

I'm referring to the bogans from Mosman\Toorak\etc.....

You sound like my brother who used to call my car a toorak tractor. It was a Pajero we used in the country. He bought one about five years later. He was jealous after all.

 

[Pukka]

QED

[from the latin].

Sumere volucere copulatem

(From bogan Latin)

I don't have an 80" tv by the way but I don't resent anyone who does as I'm sure they're more energy efficient and better for the environment than the old CRT's

 

[11sjw]

I agree with you, Skyring, and that is why the Climate Change Committee said that 80% of the world's fossil fuels need to stay in the ground. Oh sorry - you may not have heard that news if you only consume the Murdoch media fodder for fools.

You bring this to a forum that contains people that travel needlessly in order to maintain status in their chosen FF Program. :shock::mrgreen:

But how do you break it to the bogans that we can't keep flogging coal to the world and that means no second 60-inch 3-D TV this year? I tell you they will go screaming and hide under Tony's skirts before you can get a sentence out!

You invest in downstream technologies and train all the miners that will lose their jobs into these areas. However that will cost a bundle. It's also pretty much a given that China won't stop consuming coal so why do we stop selling it?