Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

[erkpod]

Shamelessly stolen from Twitter as I wasn't watching TV. This is why we can't have nice things.....

 

[drsmithy]

Interesting that you presume to know what's in my mind without offering your own opinion!

I presume to interpret what you write. If you don't want people to read, think about and respond to what you write, why are you writing it in a discussion forum meant for that purpose ?

What you write may or may not be "in your mind", I don't know. This is the internet, you could be a dozen different people using the same moniker, for all I know.

What do you think? And what informs your thinking?

I think if people are prepared to take a fairly non-trivial risk of an unpleasant death, and a guarantee of a fairly unpleasant few years (to the rest of their lives, the way things are going) if they don't, then they probably think the things they're leaving behind worse than either of those alternatives.

 

[drsmithy]

However, unfortunately in the recently terminated government, because of their alliance with those that had to be in government at any cost, they were able to have a greater than 10% effect.

Please elaborate on this "greater than 10%" effect and how it might work.

 

[drsmithy]

Sorry to say - it didn't come across that way! Better to keep spurious rubbish out of it IMHO.

Somehow I don't think anyone had a problem understanding the analogy, including you.

 

[drsmithy]

Rural or urban? Traditional lifestyle or not? Young or old? Employed or not? Educated or not?

Aboriginal Australians are as demographically diverse as any other ethnic group.

Mmm. Yet they are all Aboriginal, are they not ?

Australians are a quite diverse people. This does not change that there is a single demographic that is "Australian citizens", nor does it in any way eliminate their diversity.

 

[amaroo]

Please elaborate on this "greater than 10%" effect and how it might work.

Carbon Tax

 

[Skyring]

I presume to interpret what you write. If you don't want people to read, think about and respond to what you write, why are you writing it in a discussion forum meant for that purpose ?

What you write may or may not be "in your mind", I don't know. This is the internet, you could be a dozen different people using the same moniker, for all I know.


I think if people are prepared to take a fairly non-trivial risk of an unpleasant death, and a guarantee of a fairly unpleasant few years (to the rest of their lives, the way things are going) if they don't, then they probably think the things they're leaving behind worse than either of those alternatives.

A dozen different people? Just bizarre.

As for your uninformed opinion on Indonesia, thanks for your input.

 

[amaroo]

Somehow I don't think anyone had a problem understanding the analogy, including you.

Well, we were talking about the Greens not Aboriginals.

Anyway - good to see that Warren Mundine is sick of the ALP way of doing things and wants real progressive change when it comes to Aboriginal affairs.

 

[Skyring]

Mmm. Yet they are all Aboriginal, are they not ?

Australians are a quite diverse people. This does not change that there is a single demographic that is "Australian citizens", nor does it in any way eliminate their diversity.

Do you think they all vote the same????

 

[drsmithy]

Carbon Tax

Labor took a carbon pricing policy to two elections.

 

[drsmithy]

Do you think they all vote the same????

Not at all.

 

[drsmithy]

A dozen different people? Just bizarre.

Yes, it would be. I've seen stranger things on the internet, however.

As for your uninformed opinion on Indonesia, thanks for your input.

I'm not sure that I voiced an opinion on Indonesia.

 

[amaroo]

Labor took a carbon pricing policy to two elections.

hahaha not the last one.

Man - you're better than this.

 

[Pukka]

Please elaborate on this "greater than 10%" effect and how it might work.

Because they held Julia Gillard and co to ransom to push their minority policies through.

Who knows why JG allowed that to happen I mean they were hardly likely to vote with Tony Abbot.

Anyway hopefully their influence will soon amount to 0. They've suffered since the loss of Bob Brown; he seemed like a genuine calm person who cared about the environment and wanted to protect it. She just seems like an ultra left wing anti business, pro taxing everyone & everything loon.

She hasn't done that party any favours at all.

 

[Skyring]

Not at all.

So why are you comparing two diverse groups - Australians and Aboriginal Australians - with Greens?

Presumably you think that Greens vote for the Greens? That would be logical.

 

[medhead]

Do us all a huge favour and go and read the posts. No need to work yourself up over nothing.

I read enough and I'm not working up about anything. You're the one making the big rant about off topic spurious comments - not me. Which you've gone on about a fair bit.

 

[drsmithy]

Well, we were talking about the Greens not Aboriginals.

Indeed.

But since you feel the need to engage in the sort of debate misdirection tactic that an early high school student would be embarassed by, now it seems we're talking about Aborigines, despite them having no real relevant to the actual point: casually dismissing the views of 10% of the population is wrong.

 

[drsmithy]

So why are you comparing two diverse groups - Australians and Aboriginal Australians - with Greens?

I'm not.

Presumably you think that Greens vote for the Greens? That would be logical.

I would have gone with tautological, personally.

 

[medhead]

hahaha not the last one.

They promised to price carbon. a vastly superior policy to Abbott digging out Ros Kelly's whiteboard to divvy up tax payers money to the winners of his carbon slush fund. Direct action, now there's a policy that stinks.

 

[drsmithy]

Because they held Julia Gillard and co to ransom to push their minority policies through.

Which were ?

Who knows why JG allowed that to happen I mean they were hardly likely to vote with Tony Abbot.

Indeed, who knows. Maybe she thought a slight compromise about how Labor's carbon pricing policy would be implemented was a reasonable outcome.

Anyway hopefully their influence will soon amount to 0. They've suffered since the loss of Bob Brown; he seemed like a genuine calm person who cared about the environment and wanted to protect it. She just seems like an ultra left wing anti business, pro taxing everyone & everything loon.

I've asked this before and got nothing but crickets and tumbleweeds, so I'm not really expecting a response, but what are these "ultra left wing anti business" policies espoused by the Greens ?