Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

[medhead]

Hardly medhead, but then I don't grandstand an ability (or not) in Latin.

You don't need to know latin to recognise a murdoch beat up. But perhaps it helps.

Also pretty darn easy to post links. Who knew that links do not contain cookies.

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What was it that medhead wrote about hyperbole?

Maybe they would have understood if I wrote Hyper Bowl. :?:

 

[drsmithy]

Did I say that???

You made it pretty clear you think people who are "economic refugees" or have "$$$s to their name" are less deserving of help.

What I do know is that there are a large number of refugees without money to their name, in many cases to the point where they are still stuck in the country in which they are persecuted, or in a UN camp just outside the conflict zone. These are the far more deserving refugees, versus someone who is already far away.

Ah. So would you be in favour of a policy to airlift, say, a few 10s of thousands of people in foreign refugee camps to Australia ?

 

[amaroo]

Someone else terrified of democracy, I see.

Aboriginals make up less than 10% of the Australian population. Would you argue they shouldn't have a say in how the country is run ?

What does this thread have to do with Aboriginals - I'll never know. You would be best to keep it on topic instead of introducing spurious comments.

What I'm scared of is fringe parties getting a stage......Katter & Palmer are pulling numbers that the greens can only ever dream of. Lets keep the nutters out of it.

 

[BadgerBoi]

David Speers, Sky News political editor. The only time I hear from him is at election time as I don't have pay-tv.

Thanks, yet another reason not to bother with pay tv then.

I guess he's a bit like Concetta Fierravanti-Wells who only ever seems to get wheeled out at elections for some reason <g>

 

[BadgerBoi]

You don't need to know latin to recognise a murdoch beat up. But perhaps it helps.

Also pretty darn easy to post links. Who knew that links do not contain cookies.

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Maybe they would have understood if I wrote Hyper Bowl. :?:

Well, Google is their friend

 

[drsmithy]

And, looking at one response to this point, it is ridiculous to say that refugees die because they have to remain in their home nations being persecuted/tortured/pogrommed etc. They don't board boats in Pakistan or Afghanistan - they fly to Indonesia and commence the short sea crossing to Christmas Island there. Or they select another destination. Most refugees do.

This suggests you think people in Indonesian refugee camps are not in ongoing danger.

The numbers of them prepared to risk death on boats, suggests they think otherwise.

 

[amaroo]

You do realise that the bloke you are going to vote for is on the same page as that? Actually, he'd rather turn them back so they sink their own boats. Be proud if that when you vote.

You have demonstrated several times in the thread that you either don't read or you ignore what people write. So, in case you overlooked/ignored/misunderstood what I wrote ... Both major parties have inhumane and embarrassing policies. That kind of suggests I don't agree with either yet you found a way to twist that to make it sound like I am against immigration. You could get a job at the Telegraph!

Yeah - I have a big problem reading posts LOL

Like I said - how do you know who'll I vote for?

 

[moa999]

You made it pretty clear you think people who are "economic refugees" or have "$$$s to their name" are less deserving of help.

Ah. So would you be in favour of a policy to airlift, say, a few 10s of thousands of people in foreign refugee camps to Australia ?

Given as a country of 22m we have a limited number of global refugees we can support I would prefer we assist refugees in conflict areas versus those with $$$s who have already fled to a semi-safe country, acknowledging that unfortunately some of our northern neighbours do not treat these people particularly well.

The reality is the majority of refugees and migrants come to Australia by air.

I would far prefer an airlift of genuine refugees, as already proved by the UN with proper id and checks, ideally on a safe plane with a red tail, versus the thousands of deaths that have occurred in recent years via ricketty boats.

We are a lucky country and we can afford to support some of those in troubling situations - I disagree with a policy that effectively creates a situation where vulnerable people of are taken advantage of and forced to take some very risky boat journies.

 

[BadgerBoi]

I would far prefer an airlift of genuine refugees, as already proved by the UN with proper id and checks, ideally on a safe plane with a red tail, versus the thousands of deaths that have occurred in recent years via ricketty boats.

I imagine most people would. How do you propose we ensure this happens, you make it sound so easy.

 

[drsmithy]

What does this thread have to do with Aboriginals - I'll never know.

Absolutely nothing. Nor did I even vaguely suggest it did.

I was using an analogy to highlight why dismissing the opinions of 10% of the population out of hand, is wrong.

You would be best to keep it on topic instead of introducing spurious comments.

You would be best not to try and misdirect the discussion with feigned ignorance. It just makes you look silly.

What I'm scared of is fringe parties getting a stage......Katter & Palmer are pulling numbers that the greens can only ever dream of. Lets keep the nutters out of it.

Katter and Palmer are going to collect 10% of the primary vote nation wide ? What polls are you looking at ?
Are you arguing Katter and Palmer have no valid viewpoints at all ?

 

[medhead]

Just watching this cough now. Abbott reckons the government killed the mining boom. Shame economics types don't agree with him. Structural imbalance in China's foreign currency holdings, falling growth in china. Apparently Rudd did that. Abbott really will say anything to get elected.

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What does this thread have to do with Aboriginals - I'll never know. You would be best to keep it on topic instead of introducing spurious comments.

What they're not allowed to vote? They have no say in the election? Isn't that view a bit old fashioned?
It's a fair question given your position that groups supported by 10% of the population are irrelevant.

 

[amaroo]

Absolutely nothing. Nor did I even vaguely suggest it did.

Yes you did.

Not one of your better posts!

 

[amaroo]

What they're not allowed to vote? They have no say in the election? Isn't that view a bit old fashioned?

Do us all a huge favour and go and read the posts. No need to work yourself up over nothing.

 

[Skyring]

This suggests you think people in Indonesian refugee camps are not in ongoing danger.

The numbers of them prepared to risk death on boats, suggests they think otherwise.

Interesting that you presume to know what's in my mind without offering your own opinion!

What do you think? And what informs your thinking?

 

[rogerkambah]

Because it's only 10% I.E. bugger all!

However, unfortunately in the recently terminated government, because of their alliance with those that had to be in government at any cost, they were able to have a greater than 10% effect.

 

[drsmithy]

Yes you did.

No, I did not.

I used them as an example of a homogenous demographic.

 

[amaroo]

No, I did not.

I used them as an example of a homogenous demographic.

Sorry to say - it didn't come across that way! Better to keep spurious rubbish out of it IMHO.

 

[amaroo]

However, unfortunately in the recently terminated government, because of their alliance with those that had to be in government at any cost, they were able to they were able to have a greater than 10% effect.

Once in a lifetime event - I'm glad to say.

 

[rogerkambah]

Once in a lifetime event - I'm glad to say.

We can only hope!

 

[Skyring]

No, I did not.

I used them as an example of a homogenous demographic.

Rural or urban? Traditional lifestyle or not? Young or old? Employed or not? Educated or not?

Aboriginal Australians are as demographically diverse as any other ethnic group.