Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

[amaroo]

Well apparently I've got ideal roof facing area for a 10kw system which was about 42 panels for $20k.

I'm tempted but I think I've missed the boat with the tariffs and I've heard talk that they want to charge people with solar more because its increasing the costs for those without solar because there's less demand or something so I'm waiting a bit

Will be a brave Gov to implement something like that.......large numbers of QLD houses now have solar. When the courier mail ran a story along those lines earlier this year the comments page went ballistic.....the minister back tracked before the day was out.

Personally, I don't mind if I lose the cash benefit.......paying nothing for electricity was/still is my goal.

FWIW, I have a 7kw system where the payback is 3 years.

Getting a quote tomorrow to put a system on the commercial property SWMBO leases via the superfund......tax deductible as well

 

[moa999]

Riddle me this.
NSW Senate... No carbon tax climate sceptics preference Labor in front of the LNP. Admittedly ex the Greens they are next to last on the ticket

 

[moa999]

Solar is the go. Have turned my $850/qtr into $300/qtr cash back......coming into spring/summer I suspect the cash back will rise significantly. The thing generated 950kw in August @ $0.52/kw

Only good when under good subsidies. Problem is if you sell house new owner doesn't get same benefits... That said with solar efficiencies improving it will get back to square one day

 

[amaroo]

Only good when under good subsidies. Problem is if you sell house new owner doesn't get same benefits... That said with solar efficiencies improving it will get back to square one day

When they make on site storage batteries efficient and cheap......the Gov/Generators/retailers are going to have a big problem.

 

[Pukka]

When they make on site storage batteries efficient and cheap......the Gov/Generators/retailers are going to have a big problem.

A local electrician was telling me that's just round the corner but isn't it always

 

[Skyring]

Riddle me this.
NSW Senate... No carbon tax climate sceptics preference Labor in front of the LNP. Admittedly ex the Greens they are next to last on the ticket

It doesn't take much to set up a party with a name that sucks in the voters. Most will vote above the line and at that point most of the most have lost control of their vote.

How many - unlike you - will take the trouble to look up the preference flows? SFA.

 

[Skyring]

Anything exciting happening in this thread or still the same old bickering?

You ain't seen nuttin' yet!

I logged in to answer the same question and found people comparing the size of their solar cells. Sheesh!

 

[Sprucegoose]

He has to go to a DD first. I don't think he will.

He said he will. KRUDD also said he wouldn't vote for it as well. As if he will be around!!

 

[Skyring]

He said he will. KRUDD also said he wouldn't vote for it as well. As if he will be around!!

Krudd will be licking his wounds somewhere, plotting revenge...

If, as seems likely, Abbott doesn't win control of the Senate and is obstructed by the Greens, then he'll just rack up double dissolution triggers, call a double dissolution election and pass them in a joint sitting. He doesn't need to go immediately - in fact he can't until the second half of next year - but he'd call an election, he'd win it and even if he loses a few backbenchers, he'll have plenty to spare.

The Greens would hate that. They'd drop from ten or eleven Senate seats to six or seven and lose any potential to modify the legislation.

 

[Pukka]

He said he will. KRUDD also said he wouldn't vote for it as well. As if he will be around!!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/4932712

 

[drsmithy]

He said he will.

He says a lot of things.

 

[amaroo]

He says a lot of things.

If the ALP get flogged on Saturday they will dump the carbon tax quicker than a Wilkie Pokie policy.

No way the faceless men will face another public flogging.......it's a green policy that has sunk the ALP.

 

[Warks]

Who here has any influence on who gets in on Saturday? Most of us probably live in blue ribbon Lib or rusted on Lab seats so as usual the election is determined by the demographics of a few marginal seats. There really is something wrong with that system and it's no wonder people turn off.


Being in Ruddock's seat who has been an MP since the days of Whitlam and "Father of the House" since 1998 the vote for him isn't counted each election, it's weighed.
So no real point except for the Senate to elect some "unrepresentative swill" (my favourite Keating quote).


I was talking to a friend who lives in the same electorate but also has a house at the Central Coast (NSW) in the seat of Robertson. He and his wife have changed their address on the electoral roll so they can help vote out the Labor member who is on a wafer thin margin rather than waste their vote in Berowra. They spend roughly half their time in either place so I guess it's legit.

 

[amaroo]

Geez even the Chairman of Fairfax is sticking it into Rudd Fairfax chairman Roger Corbett accuses Prime Minister Kevin Rudd of destabilising Labor - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)


"His colleagues sacked him because they judged him to be incapable as prime minister," Mr Corbett said.

"In my view, Kevin Rudd is a leader that has been really discredited by his own conduct," Mr Corbett said.

"Here's a man that has really done the Labor Party enormous damage, destabilised it and is now wishing to present himself to the Australian people as a prime minister .. and as the incoming prime minister.

 

[drron]

So Rudd's corker of an answer on Q&A is looking even sicker.The quote re slavery was from Aristotle not the bible.Suppose you really cant blame Kevvie as they made the same mistake on West Wing.
Sums it up though.Kevvie lives in a make believe world.

 

[Pukka]

So Rudd's corker of an answer on Q&A is looking even sicker.The quote re slavery was from Aristotle not the bible.Suppose you really cant blame Kevvie as they made the same mistake on West Wing.
Sums it up though.Kevvie lives in a make believe world.

Well he's going to get a big reality check on Saturday

 

[drsmithy]

So Rudd's corker of an answer on Q&A is looking even sicker.The quote re slavery was from Aristotle not the bible.Suppose you really cant blame Kevvie as they made the same mistake on West Wing.
Sums it up though.Kevvie lives in a make believe world.

The important part of his answer was not whether or not the Bible advocated slavery, it was that people shouldn't be denied equal rights before the law because of who they share their bed with, and that what any religion thinks of that is utterly irrelevant.

 

[Pushka]

The important part of his answer was not whether or not the Bible advocated slavery, it was that people shouldn't be denied equal rights before the law because of who they share their bed with, and that what any religion thinks of that is utterly irrelevant.

Ah, no. The Bible was the most important thing and crucial to his point.

 

[drsmithy]

Ah, no. The Bible was the most important thing and crucial to his point.

Apparently we have quite different views on what his point actually was.

 

[Pushka]

His point was that the bible tells us lots of things we should and shouldn't do, but many of those are quite unacceptable in today's society. That's all.