That's not what I said but maybe I could have been clearer. We need to vax and open up as quickly as possible. That said the Australian economy has had a far better time of it (on the macro level) than many if not most economies in the rest of the world. Yes on the micro level there are people who have had livelihoods destroyed by COVID but is you look at how badly the UK is doing economically, how bad the US was doing even earlier this year and how badly Japan is doing right now; I'd pick the Covid-0 short term strategy every time; reducing or eliminating excess death over money, every single time. And on aggregate we did well economically as well.
Covid-0 was a good short term strategy but a poor long term one. We saved a lot of lives when there was little effective treatment and no vaccines. Now it's time to vax and open up.
Yes I totally agree - post #5941 refers! And nothing has changed my mind on that very sad prediction since I made itUntil the 12th of never….
Congratulations and I really hope she gets here so you can finally start your lives together.So my fiancés marriage visa got approved today (haven't seen her since Feb 2020) and she has until 27 may 2022 to come to Australia
As shocking as it is to say, 27 may 2022 does not sound achievable because of our neurotic government.
So my fiancés marriage visa got approved today (haven't seen her since Feb 2020) and she has until 27 may 2022 to come to Australia
As shocking as it is to say, 27 may 2022 does not sound achievable because of our neurotic government.
Said this before but I’ll say it again, we’ve won the battle but we assumed that’s it. Countries like the US and the UK may have lost the battle but look like they will win the war well before we do.So you're saying what I said, but you termed what I said as "not even remotely true"? If you look at previous posts, I have said, and will always say Australia dealt with this strategy much, much, much better than pretty much everyone else apart from NZ in 2020. But that was last year.
The Aussie government, at the start of this year, when the EU/UK/US were already vaccinating, sat back arrogantly and said "we don't have any issues". The vaccination program as it is now, is an absolute shambles - and until people get vaccinated, Australians will be forever in fear of a handful of cases shutting down the state - as we have seen many times during "Covid-0".
Aiming to eliminate Covid-0 was a good strategy last year.
A slight chuckle that the 2 people that hit agree on your post are in the UK ...Said this before but I’ll say it again, we’ve won the battle but we assumed that’s it. Countries like the US and the UK may have lost the battle but look like they will win the war well before we do.
Enough with the self congratulations, what’s the exit strategy? At the moment the answer is sadly missing to what is quite a simple question.
Unfortunately, the election is 18 May 2022 so a year awayIt still seems to me that the election date is the first crucial indicator. Until then I suspect it is all smoke and mirrors.
It can be earlier than that. It isn't like state elections.Unfortunately, the election is 18 May 2022 so a year away
Why would he want it any earlier ? He is basking in the support for keeping borders closed and saving Australia from covid and its in his best interest to serve out the term fullyIt can be earlier than that. It isn't like state elections.
because 6 months from now the rest of the world is going to be open and living like a free society and he needs to lock in another 3 years before we get humiliated as terrified hermits on the global scaleWhy would he want it any earlier ? He is basking in the support for keeping borders closed and saving Australia from covid and its in his best interest to serve out the term fully
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It can be earlier than that. It isn't like state elections.
Perhaps, but until we have some certainty and agreement among all states as to what level of transmission is considered acceptable, then this is pie in the sky stuff. It may well require keeping a careful eye on the rest of the world (or at least Europe & North America) opening before our politicians even start to have the discussion.If this gathers momentum it may spur changes regarding border movements: home Q for those vaccinated, and freeing up more space for those not.
But given there were no real adverse consequences when many saw earlier lockdowns being the fault of Vic govt (yes, mostly outside Vic) I am not sure some seeing that the Feds caused this one really changes anything.The tide seems to be turning, at least in Victoria. This latest lockdown isn't seen as the fault of the Vic government, but rather the Cth.
If this gathers momentum it may spur changes regarding border movements: home Q for those vaccinated, and freeing up more space for those not.