Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

[Pom-DownUnder]

Plans are well underway in SA to bring back International Students to be housed in barracks at Parafield. Location already approved by SA Health and are seeking Commonwealth approval.

If they open up for internationals and still require people who live here to request an exemption i would hope that would cause major strife for them.

 

[Comoman]

My NHS app here in the UK has my vaccination status on it - I'm also able to share/export as a QR code. You would think that there wold be the ability to attach to passport or something....

 

[SydneySwan]

My NHS app here in the UK has my vaccination status on it - I'm also able to share/export as a QR code. You would think that there wold be the ability to attach to passport or something....

What is technically possible and what governments are prepared to do and accept can be world's apart. Just look at the covidsafe app. This could have been made useful with some investment and goodwill (i.e. preparing to admit it wasn't wonderful) on the federal government's part.

 

[MelMel]

True, FWIW I just checked my medicare and in March a medical practioner I have never heard of has bulkbilled $86 for an initial consultation that never happened.

Did you have a Covid test? I just checked mine out of interest and this was on the same day I had a test

 

[flyingfan]

True, FWIW I just checked my medicare and in March a medical practioner I have never heard of has bulkbilled $86 for an initial consultation that never happened.

Did you have a Covid test? I just checked mine out of interest and this was on the same day I had a test

I had a COVID test earlier this year and a doctor's name, $85, $6.80 and $1.70 were listed for that day. I think the COVID tests have to be listed under a nominal doctor's name (probably affiliated with the pathology lab) and details for Medicare coverage.

 

[mviy]

If they open up for internationals and still require people who live here to request an exemption i would hope that would cause major strife for them.

Well, whilst I agree with you, they allowed tennis players in for the Australian Open and that didn't help those of us that wanted to leave.

 

[SydneySwan]

I had a COVID test earlier this year and a doctor's name, $85, $6.80 and $1.70 were listed for that day. I think the COVID tests have to be listed under a nominal doctor's name (probably affiliated with the pathology lab) and details for Medicare coverage.

Yes I have just checked my Medicare records (no Covid test so far) and all my medical tests are under the name of a doctor rather than the pathology company.

 

[serfty]

Did you have a Covid test? I just checked mine out of interest and this was on the same day I had a test

I had a COVID test earlier this year and a doctor's name, $85,

That would explain it. I was in Brisbane the weekend before and there had been an outbreak there.

 

[dajop]

Well, whilst I agree with you, they allowed tennis players in for the Australian Open and that didn't help those of us that wanted to leave.

And let’s not forget others sports people, foreign film producers and actors, celebs etc. Of course the media benefit from these is greater so they’re less likely to make big headlines out of these, but they will (have already?) out of foreign students. Even though foreign students stay a lot longer.

 

[Pushka]

I had a COVID test earlier this year and a doctor's name, $85, $6.80 and $1.70 were listed for that day. I think the COVID tests have to be listed under a nominal doctor's name (probably affiliated with the pathology lab) and details for Medicare coverage.

The CHO in SA (Prof Spurrier) is the registered Dr used in SA Covid tests and online in Medicare records. .

 

[Batterytraveller]

Yes, but as I understand it, Your Medicare immunisation history statement is not optional.

My COVID vaccine appeared in my immunisation history on the Medicare app less that 24hrs after having the jab.

I have opted out of My Health Record.

 

[oznflfan]

Well, whilst I agree with you, they allowed tennis players in for the Australian Open and that didn't help those of us that wanted to leave.

And they will let in tennis players and F1 drivers again............................................ but still nothing for us.

 

[Ric]

Speaking as a simple layperson .....

The budget shows that the Government has plenty of $$$ to splash around and it is because the economy is doing good.
Let's just throw a spanner in and say that China suddenly stop importing our iron ore and all Australian produce for that matter. Ban all students and tourists from coming here.

Now, will that hasten the opening of our borders?

(I have read recently somewhere that China is pushing Brazil and other African countries to get to speed on their iron ore production)

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Speaking as a simple layperson .....

The budget shows that the Government has plenty of $$$ to splash around and it is because the economy is doing good.
Let's just throw a spanner in and say that China suddenly stop importing our iron ore and all Australian produce for that matter. Ban all students and tourists from coming here.

Now, will that hasten the opening of our borders?

(I have read recently somewhere that China is pushing Brazil and other African countries to get to speed on their iron ore production)

That's a good question... I am expecting a ban on (mainland) Chinese tourists, and possibly students as well (although the latter actually provide a benefit to China, so may be allowed to continue).

If you take the Chinese market away, what's left to open up?

 

[Ric]

If you take the Chinese market away, what's left to open up?

A scramble to get foreign investors, tourists to come from other countries? Allow Australian business personnel to go overseas to find new markets etc?

 

[hb13]

My understanding is that most foreign students, not only those from China are looking to other countries like the UK/Canada now.

Smart move. Why would you go to Australia when it will be almost impossible to visit your family outside of Australia for the next few years?

 

[Flashback]

Speaking as a simple layperson .....

The budget shows that the Government has plenty of $$$ to splash around and it is because the economy is doing good.
Let's just throw a spanner in and say that China suddenly stop importing our iron ore and all Australian produce for that matter. Ban all students and tourists from coming here.

Now, will that hasten the opening of our borders?

(I have read recently somewhere that China is pushing Brazil and other African countries to get to speed on their iron ore production)

The reality in Africa is that most of the mines there are operating in very low amounts and/or they're still some time away from production at scale.

 

[SydneySwan]

That's a good question... I am expecting a ban on (mainland) Chinese tourists, and possibly students as well (although the latter actually provide a benefit to China, so may be allowed to continue).

If you take the Chinese market away, what's left to open up?

One of the reasons that Australia was so popular with Chinese mainland students was that after graduating there was essentially a pathway to permanent residence and then citizenship here. This may well remain post-Covid but some Chinese residents in Australia are becoming reluctant to take out citizenship now as they have to give up their Chinese citizenship and there is some concern that as Australians China may ban them from visiting their families in China.

One thing is certain is that our university system is currently way too big if Chinese students do not return.

 

[drron]

Speaking as a simple layperson .....

The budget shows that the Government has plenty of $$$ to splash around and it is because the economy is doing good.
Let's just throw a spanner in and say that China suddenly stop importing our iron ore and all Australian produce for that matter. Ban all students and tourists from coming here.

Now, will that hasten the opening of our borders?

(I have read recently somewhere that China is pushing Brazil and other African countries to get to speed on their iron ore production)

Two problems with that.
first we are rapidly heading to $ 1 trillion debt.
Second there is not enough current production of iron ore world wide to satisfy demand.Chinese investments in iron ore deposits unlikely to be producing at scale for 3-5 years so way too late to have an effect on opening our borders.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

My understanding is that most foreign students, not only those from China are looking to other countries like the UK/Canada now.

Smart move. Why would you go to Australia when it will be almost impossible to visit your family outside of Australia for the next few years?

Australia is predicting borders will start to open from mid 2022. Students coming to Australia for the 2022 academic year will have no issues returning home to visit families when they want to go, which will be after exams at the end of 2022.