Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

[DC3]

And mass rallies now, as at last weekend. I have no objection to the rallies, just the lack of COVID precautions by many attending.

Now we will be waiting even longer for State borders to reopen. Not holding my breath for the High Court.

 

[Pushka]

And mass rallies now, as at last weekend. I have no objection to the rallies, just the lack of COVID precautions by many attending.

Now we will be waiting even longer for State borders to reopen. Not holding my breath for the High Court.

I wonder if the positive result may make them think twice.

 

[auriga]

As a HongKonger, that's enough already.

Other countries includes Malaysia and Thailand are getting rid of local transmission as well. So I think we can open to Malaysia and Thailand in October, earlier should Malaysia election is being held, to faciliate Australian Malaysians to vote.

Much as I would like to, I cannot see that happening.
There is also the question of how much we trust other countries' statistics

 

[CityRail]

Breaking news: SA to open borders from July 20

SA to lift border rules, bring stage 3 social restrictions forward

By Nicole Precel
South Australia is bringing stage 3 social restrictions forward and lifting border rules, as the state continues to record good coronavirus results.
Premier Steven Marshall said stage 3 restrictions, which were due to take effect on July 3 will now come into play on June 29. But the cap of 100 people per room, would be replaced with one person per 4 square metres.

Mr Marshall is also bringing in a "stage 2.5" from next Friday, increasing the 20 person room limit to 75, and moving a total cap of patrons per restaurant, pub or venue of 80 up to 300.
The last case of community transmission was March 20 and Mr Marshall expects the announcement to provide "enormous relief" to the community.
"We still have a very very high level of compliance in South Australia," he said.
SA will also be lifting border restrictions from July 20. Mr Marshall says the state is still finalising legal issues surrounding the change, but doesn't want to block the movement of people from other jurisdictions that don't pose a health risk to SA.
"This could only be possible because of the massive improvement right across the entire nation," he said.
The change will remove the need for anyone coming from interstate to quarantine for two weeks.
with AAP

I sincerely hope that other states, in particular Queensland will open its borders in early July and all states except WA will open its borders by the end of July so that we will be able to open Trans-Tasman Travel Bubble in August and Asia by September/October.

 

[JohnM]

I sincerely hope that other states, in particular Queensland will open its borders in early July and all states except WA will open its borders by the end of July so that we will be able to open Trans-Tasman Travel Bubble in August and Asia by September/October.

Why '...except WA...'? There are others here that are hanging on getting to WA for the wildflowers in August-September. I want to be able to travel interstate, but at least that's not until October.

 

[Pushka]

Breaking news: SA to open borders from July 20



I sincerely hope that other states, in particular Queensland will open its borders in early July and all states except WA will open its borders by the end of July so that we will be able to open Trans-Tasman Travel Bubble in August and Asia by September/October.

Qld is July 10. Which means we could go to Qld on 10th, stay away for 10 days and not have to quarantine when we return on 20th. I'm betting they figure we don't work that out.

 

[jeza]

My guess for WA is that they will open the borders about the time the next school holidays finish, so somewhere around 17th-20th July of July. For reference the QLD date is the last Friday of their school holidays & the SA date thr first day of Term 3..

 

[CityRail]

Qld is July 10. Which means we could go to Qld on 10th, stay away for 10 days and not have to quarantine when we return on 20th. I'm betting they figure we don't work that out.

Queensland has yet to confirm the date yet, so you can bet on it, but no guarantees.

 

[tgh]

I wonder how many will fly somewhere/anywhere.. just for the hell of it...

 

[CityRail]

Rather than to wonder when, I wonder how international travel will resume after Coronavirus crisis, as Moderna has going to the final stage of testing for their vaccine, followed by Oxford University and Johnson's and Johnson's.

That said if successful, we will have some vaccines by September and Coronavirus will get defeated within months from that point, with the hope the world's curve will start to flatten first followed by eventual elimination of the disease.

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

Moderna set to start final-stage trial of its coronavirus vaccine by July

Pharmaceutical company Moderna told Bloomberg on Thursday that it's on pace to begin the final-stage clinical trial of its vaccine for the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19 by July. Moderna was the first company to begin human clinical trials of its vaccine candidate in the U.S., and the...

au.finance.yahoo.com

 

[JohnM]

Rather than to wonder when, I wonder how international travel will resume after Coronavirus crisis, as Moderna has going to the final stage of testing for their vaccine, followed by Oxford University and Johnson's and Johnson's.

That said if successful, we will have some vaccines by September and Coronavirus will get defeated within months from that point, with the hope the world's curve will start to flatten first followed by eventual elimination of the disease.

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

Moderna set to start final-stage trial of its coronavirus vaccine by July

Pharmaceutical company Moderna told Bloomberg on Thursday that it's on pace to begin the final-stage clinical trial of its vaccine for the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19 by July. Moderna was the first company to begin human clinical trials of its vaccine candidate in the U.S., and the...

au.finance.yahoo.com

But the Yahoo article on the Moderna stuff you link has massive caveats. There is certainly no prediction of a deployable vaccine by September - unless you mean September a year or several in the future...

 

[CityRail]

I wonder how many will fly somewhere/anywhere.. just for the hell of it...

I think the numbers will still be pretty low, even now travel is permitted between Sydney and Melbourne, we rarely see flights back to normal levels.

Even with the Queen's birthday holiday, we only saw 1 pair of Virgin flights and 2 pairs of Jetstar flights and 1 pair of Qantas via Canberra.

I think people are still scared that they are sitting next to some returned travellers which has Coronavirus and they have to quarantine afterwards.

In more vaccine news, J&J is going to move forward their vaccine tests to July, so by September, they are hoping to finish all 3 stages of trial which I am hoping international travel can restart in stages after September. There's Labour Day holiday in NSW and I am desperate to be able to travel to Hong Kong by then.

 

[Flashback]

I think the numbers will still be pretty low, even now travel is permitted between Sydney and Melbourne, we rarely see flights back to normal levels.

Even with the Queen's birthday holiday, we only saw 1 pair of Virgin flights and 2 pairs of Jetstar flights and 1 pair of Qantas via Canberra.

I think people are still scared that they are sitting next to some returned travellers which has Coronavirus and they have to quarantine afterwards.

In more vaccine news, J&J is going to move forward their vaccine tests to July, so by September, they are hoping to finish all 3 stages of trial which I am hoping international travel can restart in stages after September. There's Labour Day holiday in NSW and I am desperate to be able to travel to Hong Kong by then.

Given how long it took to even get a reasonable number of tests out, on the rare chance there even was a somewhat working vaccine I can see the distribution being even slower as production tries to ramp up.

 

[jase05]

I wonder how many will fly somewhere/anywhere.. just for the hell of it...

Not me unless the lounges are open

 

[NM]

I wonder how many will fly somewhere/anywhere.. just for the hell of it...

or to use up some of the large value in credit vouchers they have in their accounts.

 

[Pushka]

or to use up some of the large value in credit vouchers they have in their accounts.

From cancelled flights and DSC vouchers...

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Rather than to wonder when, I wonder how international travel will resume after Coronavirus crisis, as Moderna has going to the final stage of testing for their vaccine, followed by Oxford University and Johnson's and Johnson's.

That said if successful, we will have some vaccines by September and Coronavirus will get defeated within months from that point, with the hope the world's curve will start to flatten first followed by eventual elimination of the disease.

1/ With billions needed to be vaccinated it is most likely going to take a lot more than months to "defeat" Covid 19 as they all have to be manufactured, distributed and then deployed. Also what is defeat? It may like the flu just be minimised rather than eliminated.
2/ Vaccines are not normally 100% effective. So you need herd immunity to be reached to travel with confidence and some will need that as the vaccine will not directly protect them. So I personally will not be jumping on a plane to fly internationally if I somehow manged to fluke being one of the first vaccinated (Actually I will not be as I will be happy for others to be guinea pigs first) as I want to be protected by the vaccine and herd immunity.
3/ When a vaccine, or vaccines, is ready to to be released I cannot see governments and pharmaceutical companies just pumping out millions and millions of doses immediately (well maybe one Countries leader may!) just in case there are some unknown risks despite the earlier trials. Much more likely to me is that they will stage the vaccinations in batches with close monitoring of the first wave in particular. After that the vaccination rates will jump.

 

[scaredeycat]

I can't see my family flying to Europe or the UK again for at least 2 or (more likely) 3 years. The risk is simply too great. If an effective, safe vaccine is produced then maybe we can return to our annual pilgrimage to the northern hemisphere but the pessimist in me suspects that FNQ will become our winter abode. I certainly won't be volunteering to be immunised first, similar sentiments as lovestravellingoz...

 

[marki]

Australians have been banned quietly from leaving on international trips up to 17th September.

 

[I love to travel]

Australians have been banned quietly from leaving on international trips up to 17th September.

Source of info?