Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

[oznflfan]

Some time ago someone stated borders open when this thread gets to 13,000 posts. Based on average of last 10 weeks (184 per week), we'll get there middle of January 2022 - woohoo!

 

[oznflfan]

Or if you average from inception of this thread (124 per week) I make 13,000 posts 1st March 2022. Still good.

 

[burmans]

The only difference between places where life is relatively normal and Australia is vaccination. Simple as that.

Can't disagree but since this is not the vaccination thread will leave it at that this is indeed the only difference, but it is a big difference when you consider impact.

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

The PM's wording around the thresholds the other day was decidedly more vague than what it sounded like it was going to be, will see soon i guess hopefully

 

[oznflfan]

The PM's wording around the thresholds the other day was decidedly more vague than what it sounded like it was going to be, will see soon i guess hopefully

And on that, if we get to Phase 3 by say July 2022, I can be vaccinated and go to NSW with their 1,300* cases per day and not have to quarantine on return home, but I fly to Vietnam with their 100* cases I have to home quarantine for 7 days? Any sense in that.

*Just figures to show how Phase 3 opening would work - or not work.

 

[burmans]

The PM's wording around the thresholds the other day was decidedly more vague than what it sounded like it was going to be, will see soon i guess hopefully

No surprise to me that this is vague, carrying on a long tradition of this.

 

[jonboixxx]

And another story on life outside Australia

Life for Australians in Seattle, America's most vaccinated city, is getting back to normal

'Here, you basically wouldn't know that coronavirus had ever happened,' said Daniella Phair, who lives in Seattle, where more than 70 per cent of the population is vaccinated.

www.traveller.com.au

Australians in Europe during COVID-19: Vaccinated Aussies enjoy freedom to travel in summer

Champagne in Paris, Sangria in Seville and lounging around the lake in Lucerne – Australians living in Europe are now travelling freely all around the continent.

www.traveller.com.au

Author Sue Williams from traveller.com.au seems to have a common message.

 

[hb13]

Is there still no news on the 7 days home quarantine pilot yet? Wasn't that meant to include some paralympians? If that is the case, shouldn't there be a plan in place now to begin?

 

[mviy]

Is there still no news on the 7 days home quarantine pilot yet? Wasn't that meant to include some paralympians? If that is the case, shouldn't there be a plan in place now to begin?

The Paralympics are on after the Olympics, I think. Perhaps we’ll hear more after National Cabinet Friday, this week or next week.

 

[focusedbear]

What's the likelihood of the government(s) using the delta strain as an excuse to not run the pilot? That would sound reasonable, at least to the masses. It would be such a weasel move.

 

[Batterytraveller]

I'm starting to plot my escape. I've found a 2 month long training course in Japan next January that I want to do (would probably do in any circumstances). I'm preparing for the worst case scenario that things then will be much as they are now.

It should enable me to get a visa to break in there, and convince the aussie governemnt to let me out. I should also be able to get to the UK visit my family, although order should be Japan first in case the UK is a smouldering wreck by then and I couldn't get into Japan after going through Japan.

So I'll be gone for 4 months, It seems crazy, but I've had enough. Maybe I'll pay my way back in with a business class ticket. Maybe I'll stay away till a better option comes up.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

I do note that a lot of flights coming back to Aust, its only "use points".
Or using QFF even going up to HKG/NRT/HND is "use points" only with CX.
Worst case scenario, is you get stuck overseas, with the other Aussies over there.
Even if you do succeed in getting permission to depart Aust by ABF, its more so the trouble of coming back, as there might still be not that many int flights, as now.
For once, yes, I would say, its crazy to even think about going out of Aust, without a certain sure way of returning.
If you have right to remain in the UK, and can work from there, and can stay for 1/2 years, until this Covid is totally dealt with, then its a different consideration, but as it is of now, personally, I woudn't do it.
Consider the "cost" so to speak, of trying to return to Aust.

 

[mviy]

It's behind a paywall, but The West Australian has an article posted this morning: "COVID-19 in Australia: Federal Government to take closed border policy to election". Apparently they have senior Government sources.

 

[dajop]

It's behind a paywall, but The West Australian has an article posted this morning: "COVID-19 in Australia: Federal Government to take closed border policy to election". Apparently they have senior Government sources.

Knock me down with a feather.

Something that has been predicted almost every week in this thread.

 

[drron]

It's behind a paywall, but The West Australian has an article posted this morning: "COVID-19 in Australia: Federal Government to take closed border policy to election". Apparently they have senior Government sources.

Which would mean a change of government.

 

[N860CR]

Which would mean a change of government.

Especially if they’re taking that policy to an election in May 2022…

 

[bernardblack]

Which would mean a change of government.

Do you think Labor would offer an alternative policy on this? My gut says the LNP's constituency probably skews more open-borders than the ALP's.

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

yea both main parties are absolutely gutless and do not care in anyway for people being punished with closed borders, pointless, depressing.

 

[MooTime]

Which would mean a change of government.

Change of gov or not, but wouldn't we think both parties will have plans to open up sooner rather that later post election night, the old 1st 100 day plan! Yawn!

People sadly forget what politicians do before & go on promises.
Future Outlook rather than the past.

 

[dajop]

Do you think Labor would offer an alternative policy on this? My gut says the LNP's constituency probably skews more open-borders than the ALP's.

Yes if anything the possibly is likely to drive some minority party votes that ultimately preference LNP but perhaps shift things in the senate. But I can't see either party putting out a "open the borders up" policy (although having some more exemptions on compassionate grounds for the vaccinated could be a winner).