Qantas A380 reliability issues creeping up again?

[elanshin]

Not sure why but QF11 on Nov 3 (and corresponding QF12 on Nov 3) is now showing as a 789 with all classes 0'd out.

Does QF now need a day off flying SYD - LAX with the current frames?

 

[RSD]

Not sure why but QF11 on Nov 3 (and corresponding QF12 on Nov 3) is now showing as a 789 with all classes 0'd out.

Does QF now need a day off flying SYD - LAX with the current frames?

The Qantas timetable lately has become just a rough guide to what might fly on any given day. QF11 was set to take off four hours late but is now cancelled.

The daily QF29 MEL-HKG is going missing for a few days in November too - I don't know why but the Monday and Wednesday services for two consecutive weeks aren't happening - just to add to the pain of Qantas pulling out of flying into mainland China.

 

[RichardMEL]

QF1 on 14NOV is also cut. sounds like a projected issue with a 380 shell availability issue. Perhaps delay in maintenance works or something in AUH? Yeah, it's not good.

OQB operated the QF11/2OCT that did finally take off around 2050. oyyyyyy

 

[VHOEJ]

Has nothing to do with maintaining at AUH.

OQJ has been AOG for a few days waiting parts and repairs. Starting JNB has made the situation worse. One A380 out and the disruptions will last for days.

 

[RooFlyer]

Starting JNB has made the situation worse.

This is the bit that I can't understand. They originally announced this service for earlier this year but that was cancelled and I flew on a B787.

They've had many problems with A380 availability and at best one new frame available, so how could they initiate JNB without making the situation worse?

 

[moa999]

Not sure why but QF11 on Nov 3 (and corresponding QF12 on Nov 3) is now showing as a 789 with all classes 0'd out.

One offs this far out more likely to be charter I'd think.

Antarctic flights starts 17 Nov (Mel) and 24 Nov (Syd), plus some over quieter periods at NYE and Aus Day.

 

[RSD]

This is the bit that I can't understand. They originally announced this service for earlier this year but that was cancelled and I flew on a B787.

They've had many problems with A380 availability and at best one new frame available, so how could they initiate JNB without making the situation worse?

I read somewhere that making JNB an A380 service instead of B787 would add 130,000 seats per year - is there really that much demand for JNB and beyond?

Totally agree that adding JNB would make the situation worse - blind freddy could see that coming!

 

[kpc]

I read somewhere that making JNB an A380 service instead of B787 would add 130,000 seats per year - is there really that much demand for JNB and beyond?

I think there is huge demand, otherwise Qf wouldn't be putting the A380 on this route....Qf has a monopoly on this route. When we flew to / from Jnb in August on the 787, it was completely full in every cabin!

The recent Qf codeshare agreement with Air Link suggest a lot of traffic to Jnb and beyond.

 

[marcojim]

I think there is huge demand, otherwise Qf wouldn't be putting the A380 on this route....Qf has a monopoly on this route. When we flew to / fom Jnb in August on the 787, it was completely full in every cabin!

The recent Qf codeshare agreement with Air Link suggest a lot of traffic to Jnb and beyond.

Hope it's ok with @evanb to plug this but I really enjoyed this recent article on QF's capacity into JNB:

Is the Qantas A380 really massively increasing capacity to Johannesburg?

Qantas’s inaugural A380 flight to Johannesburg took off this week after more than a year of waiting.

www.analyticflying.com

There are quite a few other articles on JNB on the site. Quite significant that QF now has 69% market share in the Australia - South Africa market whereas they only had 55% between 2016 and 2019.

 

[Capricornus]

QF1 on 14NOV is also cut. sounds like a projected issue with a 380 shell availability issue. Perhaps delay in maintenance works or something in AUH? Yeah, it's not good.

OQB operated the QF11/2OCT that did finally take off around 2050. oyyyyyy

14NOV scheduled to operate as QF331 charter SYDLHR

 

[serfty]

QF11 was scheduled this evening 7th October.

Now

 

[Melburnian1]

Another overnight delay to QF11, rescheduled to depart in the early evening of Tuesday 8 October 2024.

See the Qantas Delays/Cancellations thread for more.

 

[RSD]

Another overnight delay to QF11, rescheduled to depart in the early evening of Tuesday 8 October 2024.

See the Qantas Delays/Cancellations thread for more.

FFS! QFi is a rolling debacle at the moment!

 

[elanshin]

FFS! QFi is a rolling debacle at the moment!

I think we can all forsee this coming - they probably needed the 8th frame back to reliably do their current schedule. But they probably weighed up the situation with potential delays and issues against delaying JNB.

 

[RSD]

I think we can all forsee this coming - they probably needed the 8th frame back to reliably do their current schedule. But they probably weighed up the situation with potential delays and issues against delaying JNB.

I think we all could foresee this happening - and it has. Now what tiny bit of reputation that Qantas did have left is rapidly going as well - just when we all thought that they were trying to restore their reputation.

 

[kpc]

QF11 was scheduled this evening 7th October.

Now

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AFFer, @Bundy Bear , is on this flight. He posted on FB that Qf was sending him to a hotel for the night.

 

[moa999]

tiny bit of reputation that Qantas did have left is r

Hardly.
QF has operated like this internationally for 20+ years. They have a higher cost operation and are forced to stretch the fleet thin to make money..
If they had an 8th A380 back from AUH it would be scheduled.

Flying a 789 to Cyprus and back probably also doesn't help matters from a scheduling flexibility point, but leave the whys to the other thread.

 

[downloadingdata]

Hardly.
QF has operated like this internationally for 20+ years. They have a higher cost operation and are forced to stretch the fleet thin to make money..
If they had an 8th A380 back from AUH it would be scheduled.

Flying a 789 to Cyprus and back probably also doesn't help matters from a scheduling flexibility point, but leave the whys to the other thread.

Actual question, has QF ran a fleet in the past with a similar level of fleet age? They have also wetleased finnair for SIN and BKK

 

[moa999]

Actual question, has QF ran a fleet in the past with a similar level of fleet age? They have also wetleased finnair for SIN and BKK

The oldest 332 is 22, youngest 12, oldest 380 is 16, youngest 12 and that's with the Covid downtime. All the 787s are under 7.

VH-OJA, the 747 at HARS was 26 when she was finally retired, and plenty of the 747s flew towards the mid-20s.

The narrow body mainline domestic fleet is probably the oldest it has been (oldest 738 22, but youngest 9) but that's just a function of the lump of deliveries post Ansetts collapse, and that's going to change pretty quickly as 321XLRs start arriving from 2025 (think April 2025 for the first)

 

[DC3]

The narrow body mainland domestic fleet is probably the oldest it has been (oldest 738 22, but youngest) but that's just a function of the lump of deliveries post Ansetts collapse, and that's going to change pretty quickly as 321XLRs start arriving in 2025