Qantas Club Dress Standards...Stubbies, singlet and thongs....What the???

[hopes]

You shirley can't be serious? (appropriate quote for this forum maybe)

They most likely picked your Mexican accent and was pulling your leg.

Perhaps it wasn't the best. But that would require a judgement call.

 

[samiam]

I think Tevas are appropriate in the QF J Lounge and I shall continue to wear them.

I had to look up Tevas to see what they were!

Clearly I had seen them before, but just thought they were a fancy sandal, without the special name.

I'm certain they would look good with socks

 

[russ]

Tevas are not appropriate in any lounge.

Perhaps for you, but not for me. I find them comfortable and functional.

I'm not asking you to wear Tevas, so what business is it of yours what I wear?

samiam, You should try on a pair, they are great!

 

[samiam]

But BNE is different,as is PER and ADL. I think most would agree that MEL and SYD expect better standards.

Why should a different city expect a standard that is lesser or greater than another?

 

[samiam]

samiam, You should try on a pair, they are great!

I've got a pair in a shoe rack that Imelda Marcos would envy - I just didn't realise that's what they were called!

 

[hopes]

Perhaps for you, but not for me. I find them comfortable and functional.

I'm not asking you to wear Tevas, so what business is it of yours what I wear?

samiam, You should try on a pair, they are great!

Its not my business at all - I agree. I just don't get the fact that "fashion" or "comfort "means wearing stuff that you would normally wear in another place or for another activity eg a kayaking helmet, or deerstalker with fishing flys stuck in it. They may be comfortable but hardly functional or approriate for a J Lounge environment. Do you wear brogues when sledging?

There was a trend a few years back for folks with short beards wearing climbing shoes for every day wear - franky they looked ridiculous and my experiince was that those that chose to wear them were only looking to get attention.

You are right - its not my business - but I find it odd none the less.

 

[tuapekastar]

An interesting thread!

My plane-travel clobber (virtually always leisure travel) is almost without exception denim jeans (not ripped, too faded or too worn), a collared shirt (with or without buttons) and comfy shoes (but not runners). Just 'cos that's what I'm comfortable travelling in. The one exception I recall was last year travelling on OA from Santorini to Athens, where I wore t-shirt and shorts and shoes (had I been wearing long pants, I would have been the only one on the plane doing so).

I can't recall seeing anybody in J or F lounges wearing anything that actually upset me or made me think "wow, that's so inappropriate" (though may have raised my eyebrows on occasion).

Shorts, t-shirts, thongs not an issue for me. Certain styles of singlets are pushing it. Hard! :shock:

Doubtless there is a line (and it's a different line in different peoples' views), and I don't know what it is for me, but I'll know when I see someone who has crossed it.

It's all such an individual thing. There is no 'right' or 'wrong', just a degree of offense. If you offend 1% of fellow lounge occupants, no big deal (except to the 1% ), if you offend 99% of the lounge occupants, then it is a very big deal.

 

[JohnPhelan]

But BNE is different,as is PER and ADL. I think most would agree that MEL and SYD expect better standards.

As someone who is based in BNE, I really find that statement quite offensive and ignorant! There should be no different standards in BNE, PER or anywhere else.

We do actually have air conditioning in BNE, so the temperature in the lounge in BNE will be the same as the temperature in the lounges in SYD, MEL or elsewhere. So saying BNE is "hotter" is a cop-out.

I travel through the BNE J lounge quite frequently. From time to time, you do see people wearing singlets and thongs, unfortunately. Totally inappropriate (and in regard to thongs, unsafe if there was to be an incident) but I have also seen people dressed inappropriately in the lounges in SYD and MEL.

Of course, in MEL, the thongs are always black .....

 

[thewinchester]

Sorry to say it, but the dress standards in the QP and in some ports the Int Bus Lounges have gone to the dogs. This is despite the QP T&Cs clearly outlining what are expected dress standards - and staff for the most part failing to enforce them.

I say we bring back the reign of the tyrant Lounge Dragons, and make sure have staff with the cojones are enforcing lounge rules to the letter.

The dress rules needs to be simplified ,saying that the minimum standard of dress expected in all club lounges is Smart Casual, and members, passengers and there guests not meeting this will be denied access to our facilities.

Further, this should be placed on a big honking sign outside the lounge too!

If you can't meet this commonly understood standard (smart casual), you don't get in. Do not pass go, do not collect AUD200.

And at the risk of sounding like a complete and utter snob;

• The lounge you're in and the state it's located make no different - smart casual is the minimum standard EVERYWHERE!
• Thongs, rubber sandals, crocs, and non-dress open shoes are not smart casual
• Singlets and tank tops are not smart casual
• Ripped and torn clothing is not smart casual
• Shirts bearing large and potentially offensive slogans and designs are not smart casual
• Shorts above the knee aren't smart casual
• Hi-viz clothing (inc shirts, vests and pants) are not smart casual (and airline staff are prohibited from entering the lounge with hi-viz gear, so you're not any different). If you're going to a minesite, keep them in your bag and change at the arrival port you lazy sod.
• Trackpants, velour and fleecoes are not smart casual
• Excessive exposed flesh isn't smart casual (and can be downright offensive)

Unlike most I pay for my lounge access, and sadly dress is often a good reflection of the person. If you can't bring yourself to look good in public, specially in private clubs & members only lounges - then you should stay the hell out. I don't want or need to be distrubed by your inability to not be outright offensive in public, control your offsprint, or inability to respect others.

And it's been said elsewhere, but QP staff need to be more forceful in dealing with parents who can't control their kids. If it happens too often during a visit, then for god sake haul their cough out of the lounge. By enforcing the rules, these guests will learn what is expected and (hopefully) modify accordingly.

 

[Sprucegoose]

Anyone with a Hi-Viz anything should be given a coffee voucher and sent away IMHO.

Best expressed through Shakespearian talk a "......out damned spot...out...."

 

[Major]

Does anyone know if any lounge has actually refused admittance to a passenger, based on their apparel

 

[pauly7]

Does anyone know if any lounge has actually refused admittance to a passenger, based on their apparel

Yup @ the QF F lounge Syd

 

[Deleted member 29185]

If it happens too often during a visit, then for god sake haul their cough out of the lounge. By enforcing the rules, these guests will learn what is expected and (hopefully) modify accordingly.

Isn't there a no swearing policy on AFF? I do hope that offensive behaviour isn't followed through to a lounge visit. As someone who also pays for my access, I'd be most upset for that kind of language being overheard by my well behaved children

ps: said tongue in cheek.......just to highlight a perceived double standard over a trivial matter. My kids don't use the lounge, we don't want them exposed to that lower class of traveller with such poor dress sense

 

[extracta]

They may be comfortable but hardly functional or approriate for a J Lounge environment. Do you wear brogues when sledging?

It is not up to you to determine what is functional or appropriate for any traveller in a J lounge other than yourself.

 

[reductionist]

All this discussion is interesting I guess, but it will never amount to anything unless:

1. QF decides that the minimum dress code should actually be enforced (consistently).
2. The dragon at the front desk has the balls to do so.

The latter seems the more unlikely of the two.

As with any part of the Qantas Club service, if you're unhappy with some aspect of it you could always raise it with the dragon yourself. However, I'm tipping a lot of the people here would be a bit gun-shy with this particular issue, no?

For the record I think people dress more casually than I typically would at the QP lounges. I'm not offended by it though.

 

[Lawlass]

Sorry to say it, but the dress standards in the QP and in some ports the Int Bus Lounges have gone to the dogs. This is despite the QP T&Cs clearly outlining what are expected dress standards - and staff for the most part failing to enforce them.

I say we bring back the reign of the tyrant Lounge Dragons, and make sure have staff with the cojones are enforcing lounge rules to the letter.

The dress rules needs to be simplified ,saying that the minimum standard of dress expected in all club lounges is Smart Casual, and members, passengers and there guests not meeting this will be denied access to our facilities.

Further, this should be placed on a big honking sign outside the lounge too!

If you can't meet this commonly understood standard (smart casual), you don't get in. Do not pass go, do not collect AUD200.

And at the risk of sounding like a complete and utter snob;

• The lounge you're in and the state it's located make no different - smart casual is the minimum standard EVERYWHERE!
• Thongs, rubber sandals, crocs, and non-dress open shoes are not smart casual
• Singlets and tank tops are not smart casual
• Ripped and torn clothing is not smart casual
• Shirts bearing large and potentially offensive slogans and designs are not smart casual
• Shorts above the knee aren't smart casual
• Hi-viz clothing (inc shirts, vests and pants) are not smart casual (and airline staff are prohibited from entering the lounge with hi-viz gear, so you're not any different). If you're going to a minesite, keep them in your bag and change at the arrival port you lazy sod.
• Trackpants, velour and fleecoes are not smart casual
• Excessive exposed flesh isn't smart casual (and can be downright offensive)

Unlike most I pay for my lounge access, and sadly dress is often a good reflection of the person. If you can't bring yourself to look good in public, specially in private clubs & members only lounges - then you should stay the hell out. I don't want or need to be distrubed by your inability to not be outright offensive in public, control your offsprint, or inability to respect others.

And it's been said elsewhere, but QP staff need to be more forceful in dealing with parents who can't control their kids. If it happens too often during a visit, then for god sake haul their cough out of the lounge. By enforcing the rules, these guests will learn what is expected and (hopefully) modify accordingly.

One of the best laughs I've had in ages. Thanks!

 

[Reggie]

Hi-viz clothing (inc shirts, vests and pants) are not smart casual (and airline staff are prohibited from entering the lounge with hi-viz gear, so you're not any different). If you're going to a minesite, keep them in your bag and change at the arrival port you lazy sod.

Interesting, I was not aware that airline staff were prohibited from the lounge wearing hi-vis gear.

On the point of banning their customers from wearing hi-vis, I don't see QF doing this in Perth. They receive so much business from the mining companies and their employees, I don't think they will alienate them. It's generally not the miners themselves wearing the hi-vis, it is the managers, engineers, head office staff etc. The miners are wearing the things, stubbies and singlets.

 

[TonyHancock]

Interesting, I was not aware that airline staff were prohibited from the lounge wearing hi-vis gear.

On the point of banning their customers from wearing hi-vis, I don't see QF doing this in Perth. They receive so much business from the mining companies and their employees, I don't think they will alienate them. It's generally not the miners themselves wearing the hi-vis, it is the managers, engineers, head office staff etc. The miners are wearing the things, stubbies and singlets.

I am guilty of wearing a Hi Vis Shirt in the Perth QP. Early flight out and straight to site.

 

[docjames]

Interesting, I was not aware that airline staff were prohibited from the lounge wearing hi-vis gear.

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I thought the prohibition of staff was independant of hi-vis gear.

 

[JohnK]

Does anyone know if any lounge has actually refused admittance to a passenger, based on their apparel

There was a thread on AFF recently about a young(ish) QF Platinum asked to leave one of the BA First Lounges at LHR. They were initially allowed to enter the lounge and his appearance was what may have triggered the request to leave.