Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Melburnian1]

Qf7 cancelled 13 sept. Cries!!! I’m rerouting from bne to lax to dfw. 2 hrs late from qf7. But at least getting there today!

Naturally, QF8, the 2150 hours Thursday 13 September 2018 DFW back to SYD is also not running.

Quite unusual for these flights to be cancelled. I'd have thought that given it has a 'choice', easier to cancel the QF11 SYD - LAX given more alternative flight options to and from that USA airport.

 

[Melburnian1]

Continuing with Thursday 13, QF23 had been estimated as departing at 1100 but this occurred at 1124, with BKK arrival becoming a suggested 1742, 62 late.

QF107 from SYD (A332 VH-EBV) had this morning been displaying as on time but departed 100 late at 1350 this afternoon, with PEK arrival becoming a projected 2314 late tonight, 59 late. The aircraft arrived in SYD this morning on QF130 (ex PVG) at 0804 hours, 21 early so no obvious reason for today's delay of 'the 107.'

This will delay the 2345 hours redeye back down to SYD (QF108) until about 0030 in its departure.

 

[Melburnian1]

Wednesday 12 September's QF16, the 2320 hours LAX - BNE (B789 VH-ZNE) took off at 0045 on Thursday 13 so arrival is suggested as 0715, 70 late.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF23 on Thursday 13 September arrived BKK at 1753, 73 late. QF24 departed BKK for SYD at 1911, 61 late with SYD arrival on Friday 14 an estimated 0713, 48 late.

 

[Himeno]

Naturally, QF8, the 2150 hours Thursday 13 September 2018 DFW back to SYD is also not running.

Quite unusual for these flights to be cancelled. I'd have thought that given it has a 'choice', easier to cancel the QF11 SYD - LAX given more alternative flight options to and from that USA airport.

QF7 cancellation listed as mechanical.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF7 cancellation listed as mechanical.

Himeno, you must be implying that this developed close to departure time, so not known much in advance. If so, my comment above re QF having a 'choice' as to which outbound to cancel would be incorrect. Thanks!

 

[Melburnian1]

QF16 ex LAX arrived BNE on Friday 14 September at 0730, 85 late.

The 1910 hours JNB - SYD deparetd an hour late on Thursday 13 with SYD arrival on Friday estimated to be 35 late at 1530 mid afternoon.

 

[milehighclub]

All flights to/from HKG Sunday will most likely be cancelled because of Typhoon Mangkhut.

 

[Melburnian1]

All flights to/from HKG Sunday will most likely be cancelled because of Typhoon Mangkhut.

While it may change, this typhoon is likely to pass across the northern Philippines (part of Luzon Island) so there are evacuations up there, but no indication that QF19/20 and other flights between Oz and MNL can't operate.

 

[eminere]

All flights to/from HKG Sunday will most likely be cancelled because of Typhoon Mangkhut.

Flights QF117 Sydney-Hong Kong and QF118 Hong Kong-Sydney on Saturday 15 September 2018 have been cancelled.

All Qantas flights between Australia and Hong Kong on Sunday 16 September 2018 will be cancelled.

Source

 

[Melburnian1]

Earlier on Friday 14 September 2018, QF23, the 0950 hours SYD - BKK departed at 1020 but arrival is not expected until 1730, 50 late.

QF63 was 21 minutes late off blocks for QF63 ex SYD this morning at 1116 hours but JNB arrival will be at 1805, 65 late, delaying redeye QF64 back across to SYD.

The 1915 hours from SYD to HNL is usually pretty much on time, but it has been delayed until 2130 tonight so QF4 that returns to SYD tomorrow will be delayed. Tropical Storm Olivia is apparently bring a lot of rain to Hawaii so maybe the delayed departure is due to that.

 

[Melburnian1]

The delayed Friday night 14 September SYD - HNL (QF3) departed at 2124, arriving at 1026 hours, 116 minutes tardy.

QF128 from HKG down to SYD has B744 VH-OJT and should arrive at 0737, 42 late on Saturday 15 September.

 

[Melburnian1]

Also on 15 September, QF23 was indicated as on time early this morning but it did not have its blocks removed in SYD until 1131 (101 late), taking off at 1146. BKK arrival should be at 1827, 107 late. The 1810 hours redeye back down to SYD should be able to depart from roughly 1940.

This flight is delayed so often that its departure time ought be altered by the QF timetablers. Very poor record of arriving BKK within 15 minutes of the schedule, and often much later than that.

It had been suggested that QF33/QF34 SYD - KIX return would resume today but that doesn't seem to be the case.

The 1055 hours SYD - JNB (QF63) did not push back until 1142, but on a gate-to-gate basis it should regain some of the deficit with arrival estimated at 1731, 31 late.

 

[Himeno]

It had been suggested that QF33/QF34 SYD - KIX return would resume today but that doesn't seem to be the case.

The KIX rotation today was cancelled on Wednesday with pax rebooked to an additional QF21/22 rotation to NRT on Monday.
Only planned QF/JQ flights planned to KIX at the moment are the 19th.

 

[Melburnian1]

The KIX rotation today was cancelled on Wednesday with pax rebooked to an additional QF21/22 rotation to NRT on Monday.
Only planned QF/JQ flights planned to KIX at the moment are the 19th.

Himeno, is this because the number of international flights in and out of KIX remains rationed to 30 per cent or so of the norm?

 

[Himeno]

Himeno, is this because the number of international flights in and out of KIX remains rationed to 30 per cent or so of the norm?

They reopened half of T1 yesterday. They expect to open the rest next Friday. Currently have 30% of normal flights operating. Expect to get to 50% by Thursday.

 

[Melburnian1]

They reopened half of T1 yesterday. They expect to open the rest next Friday. Currently have 30% of normal flights operating. Expect to get to 50% by Thursday.

How are international airlines coping?

Not all flights can divert to the two nearby airports. Is QF, for instance, trying as best it can to rebook pax to HND or NRT on its QF or group flights, and is it having to use other airlines like JL as well?

 

[Himeno]

How are international airlines coping?

Not all flights can divert to the two nearby airports. Is QF, for instance, trying as best it can to rebook pax to HND or NRT on its QF or group flights, and is it having to use other airlines like JL as well?

ITM and UKB are only accepting an extra 70 daily movements between them. When normal KIX operations is ~460, that doesn't cover much.
I haven't looked into what the other airlines are doing instead of normal KIX operations, just what KIX is doing. QF has been sending people to Tokyo, then putting them on QF codeshares on GK.

I was booking a trip to Osaka just before the storm went through. It's 3 days with the main point of the trip to see a concert which is in a venue not too far from KIX on a Sunday afternoon (was trying for the Saturday shows, but they booked out while I was trying to contact the proxy getting the tickets). Had to get back to HND for the flight out on the sunday night, so was trying to work out flight vs shinkansen for Osaka - HND. Looked at KIX-HND, but the schedule instead pushed me to ITM or the train. Then the dumb trash that is the QF website made me push the trip from the planned Wed-Mon to Thur-Tue, so extra night in Osaka after the concert and not rushing back to Tokyo.

 

[Melburnian1]

On Saturday 15 September, the delayed QF4 (due to 'the 3' running late) arrived in SYD at 1836 hours, 96 minutes late after departing HNL on Friday 14 at 1227 hours, 97 late.

QF23 arrived in BKK at a very similar 96 late (1816) with QF20 departing for the run back down to SYD at 1950, 100 minutes tardy. On Sunday 16, arrival is predicted as 0755, 90 minutes behind schedule.

 

[Quickstatus]

A problem for an airline in operating such a nonstop (PER - LHR - PER) without other identical aircraft running other flights (QF1/QF2 are A388s, not B789s) is that any major delay is going to immediately result in other flights badly delayed (as we're seeing with QF10D winging its way down to PER) or cancellations (as with QF10 PER - MEL today, and QF95 MEL - LAX tonight, the latter meaning AFFer Silvia has had to be downgraded to whY on this morning's QF93).

If passengers don't favour this operating model (I don't), then travel on other airlines such as SQ or numerous others that (while imperfect) don't typically operate this 'lone' sort of long distance flight on Australian international routes.

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Qantas does really not operate any hubs for their international operation. Only hub and spoke has the ability to ameliorate the kind of problems we see here. By hub I mean a substantial presence of one or more types of aircraft such that substitutions are easier .

SYD comes close. I don’t know how a Hub would be defined but im assuming that it’s not really a hub when the majority of the aircraft are in destination ports or in transit at any time?.

Additionally Long thin routes like QF9/10 by their nature will always be difficult to return to normal ops after a D&C