Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Flyerqf]

QF63 has been further delayed until 15:45 AEDT - Sydney flight details show it as "Boarding".
Begs the question as to why ZNC which arrived with QF8 in the early hours didn't take QF63, as this has been the normal pattern for some weeks.

ZNC positioned to MEL for maintenance.

 

[tomlee1986]

QF63 has been further delayed until 15:45 AEDT - Sydney flight details show it as "Boarding".
Begs the question as to why ZNC which arrived with QF8 in the early hours didn't take QF63, as this has been the normal pattern for some weeks.

This flight took off at 1629 from Sydney - it is VH-ZNG

 

[Melburnian1]

QF63 has been further delayed until 15:45 AEDT - Sydney flight details show it as "Boarding".
Begs the question as to why ZNC which arrived with QF8 in the early hours didn't take QF63, as this has been the normal pattern for some weeks.

Instead, VH-ZNC worked empty down to MEL for maintenance, taking off from SYD at 1002 hours as QF6001 and arriving at 1113 hours on Thursday 5 January 2023.

 

[Melburnian1]

While the travails of the overnight delayed QF2 that's arriving in SYD tonight at about 2043 hours aren't a fair inclusion, as that was due to QF1 having to divert for an urgent very ill passenger on board, QF2 hasn't managed to arrive in either Singapore or Sydney less than 40 minutes late in the last six days.

Yet QFi competitors connecting with flights from the UK and Europe at their hub can manage very good to great punctuality.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF7's delay on Thursday 5 January ended up being far more than predicted. It has just departed SYD at 2026 hours, 151 minutes late, for DFW.

 

[Sprucegoose]

Looks like the MEL-PER sector of QF9 and PER-MEL sector of QF10 is being replaced by a 738 to cover the frame stranded in DFW.

So QF9 is not a premium flagship route as touted?

Brand protection?

Why wouldn’t you fly SQ for a one stop (premium) service (but not ex MEL, yet!)

 

[789nerd]

So QF9 is not a premium flagship route as touted?

Possibly not for passengers ex MEL, but definitely from PER, where the majority of its passengers board (and disembark from QF10).

 

[789nerd]

ZNK, which overnighted in SYD, was due to operate QF 63 today, but has been swapped to the late night QF17 departure. This resulted in QF63 and QF7 being delayed awaiting inbound aircraft.

QF17 SYD-LAX (B789 VH_ZNK) eventually pushed back in Sydney at 23:04 AEST, 69 minutes late. ETA Los Angeles now 17:05 PST Thursday, 25 minutes late.

 

[Sprucegoose]

Possibly not for passengers ex MEL, but definitely from PER, where the majority of its passengers board (and disembark from QF10).

Ok that’s interesting I wasn’t aware of the split there.

I was applying a local lens being Mel based!

 

[Melburnian1]

B789 VH-ZNG on the badly delayed Thursday 5 January 2023's SYD-JNB QF63 arrived at its gate at 2054 hours, 379 minutes late. It is showing as departing on the 1635 hours QF64 from Johannesburg at 2250, which is in a few minutes.

QF7, the Friday 6 1755 hours SYD-DFW is displaying as departing at 1945 hours tonight. If it's being formed by QF64, it may struggle to depart by 2245 which is the cut off for avoiding the 2300 hours curfew unless an exemption is granted. 'The 64' and 'the 7' are using the same gate number (9) in SYD.

 

[tomlee1986]

B789 VH-ZNG on the badly delayed Thursday 5 January 2023's SYD-JNB QF63 arrived at its gate at 2054 hours, 379 minutes late. It is showing as departing on the 1635 hours QF64 from Johannesburg at 2250, which is in a few minutes.

I would expect a further delay on the return to Sydney on this flight... the cleaning and reboarding process will take time...

 

[Melburnian1]

Possibly not for passengers ex MEL, but definitely from PER, where the majority of its passengers board (and disembark from QF10).

This leaves MEL-LHR passengers without a one aircraft, one stop service.

Before QF9/QF10 were introduced via Perth, QFi had a daily A388 operating from Melbourne to London so not only has there been huge downgrading of the offering with a domestic B738 used on some days on the MEL-PER-MEL leg, but seating capacity from PER with a B789 to/from LHR is half what MEL passengers would have been able to book years ago.

No wonder a large number of competitors offering a one stop service to LHR (albeit not often with the same aircraft) load so well to and from MEL.

Another case of Sydney-centric Qantas ignoring the MEL market. Its claim has always been that yields are higher on the SYD international routes but I don't see competitors struggling to fill business class seats ex MEL. SQ's fares are not especially cheap but its aircraft are often full to and from MEL.

 

[Sprucegoose]

QF7, the Friday 6 1755 hours SYD-DFW is displaying as departing at 1945 hours tonight. If it's being formed by QF64, it may struggle to depart by 2245

Are you suggesting QF64 will then fly as QF7?

 

[Melburnian1]

Are you suggesting QF64 will then fly as QF7?

I haven't researched whether there's another arrival at gate 9 prior to QF64's arrival, so can't be definitive.

QF64 has just taken off from JNB at 2317 hours local time with SYD arrival at gate said to be 1939 hours tonight, 374 minutes late.

 

[Flyerqf]

No wonder a large number of competitors offering a one stop service to LHR (albeit not often with the same aircraft) load so well to and from MEL.

What is the difference between the competitors and QF if the aircraft is not the same?

 

[djmagra]

Does anyone know what’s happening with QF51 today (Jan 6th). Have a kid flying on it and see that it turned around having made it to the runway but have no idea why and it’s now 30 minutes past rescheduled departure time and no movement.

 

[AIRwin]

Have a kid flying on it

Not contactable?

 

[Melburnian1]

On Friday 6 January 2023, QF11, the 1120 hours SYD-LAX is estimated to depart 205 minutes late at 1445. Aircraft is A388 VH-OQD that arrived ex SIN on the overnight delyed QF2 at 2048 hours.

The lunchtime 1225 hours SYD to MNL QF19 is back to its old tricks with takeoff on Friday at 1337 hours for the relatively unusual use of an A332 in VH-EBR. Arrival should be at about 1819 hours, 49 late, thus delaying the redeye QF20.

A333 VH-QPH on QF81 (1230 hours SYD-SIN) was in the sky 59 minutes later so gate arrival should be at around 1823, 33 behind.

Colleague VH-EBP is on QF67 (0920 hours SYD across and up to BLR) that is far worse with it not having become airborne until 1325 hours, so at gate pulling in should be 1924 hours, 219 minutes behind time. QF68 back will be hours late.

Flagship QF1 on 6 January is predicted to depart Sydney 115 minutes behind schedule at 1900 hours, making a timely LHR arrival impossible.

'The 2' with A388 VH-OQJ had arrived SYD this morning at 0814 hours, 124 minutes tardy. It's frequently delayed, resulting in reshuffling of connections given it isn't just carrying OD traffic.

 

[AIRwin]

BNE airport website shows it is "boarding soon" so sounds like passengers had possibly disembarked?

 

[defurax]

Looks like an aborted takeoff roll




FR24 didn't record speed for the runway section, so hard to tell if they just decided to head back or actually started the takeoff roll.