Qantas Delays/Cancellations

The diverted via SIN QF9 (b789 VH-ZNC) was in Lion City from 0128 hours on Saturday 24 to 0018 on Sunday 25, taking off at 0042. LHR arrival should be about 0610 hours today (Sunday), 1505 minutes late.

The 'normal' QF10 (VH-ZNF) should arrive at its gate at LHR at 0508, only three minutes late. Either could form the overnight delayed QF10 back down to PER and perhaps onwards to MEL.
 
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Continuing with Sunday 25, QF63, the often punctual 1000 hours SYD to JNB B789 is delayed to an expected latish afternoon pushback at 1640, 400 minutes late. This will badly delay the overnight QF64 from JNB across the ocean and Great Australian Bight to Sydney, with arrival unlikely before 2100 hours on Monday 26 mid evening.

A332 VH-EBP is on 'the 67' (0905 hours morning SYD to Indian technology hub BLR) that was in the sky on Sunday at 0954 hours. Expected at gate arrval becomes 1708, 48 behind.

In another major delay, QF11, the 1020 hours SYD-LAX A380 is predicted to push back mid afternoon at 1520 hours, 300 minutes late. The reason isn't apparent as QF2 and QF12 (A380s) arrived in SYD this morning.
 
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It hasn't taken long!

The first major delay for recently instituted QF3, the 0935 hours thrice weekly SYD-0AKL that continues at 1635 hours from AKL to JFK is on Sunday 25 June. The initial sector is estimated to push back at 1200 'high noon' with B789 VH-ZNM, QF's newest aircraft, and then to depart AKL at 1905 hours this evening (1705 AEST), 150 minutes late. While the aircraft should pick up some time (especially on the second sector), QF4 ex JFK on Sunday evening is guaranteed to be tardy.

ZNM had arrived in SYD this morning at 0846 hours, six minutes late as QF4 from JFK/AKL. It wouldn't be normal for QF4 to 'form its own' (i.e. QF3 returning to NZ and the USA), as a 55 minute turnaround time would be grossly insufficient, the more so if some minor maintenance tewaking is needed after its tours of duty.
 
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The 25 June 2023 QF3 finally took off from SYD at 1242 hours, with expected arrival in 'partly cloudy' AKL for B789 VH-ZNM at about 1716 hours, 156 minutes late. A realistic departure time for the onwards long sector to JFK would be about 1855 (assuming no unexpected hiccups) with (perhaps) arrival in JFK at gate at approximately 1915 hours, same day. Too early to be close to definitive re timings for what'll be the delayed QF4, except that this 1930 hours ex JFK scheduled flight is likely to depart post-2045.
 
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The 25 June 2023 QF3 finally took off from SYD at 1242 hours, with expected arrival in 'partly cloudy' AKL for B789 VH-ZNM at about 1716 hours, 156 minutes late. A realistic departure time for the onwards long sector to JFK would be about 1855 (assuming no unexpected hiccups) with (perhaps) arrival in JFK at gate at approximately 1915 hours, same day. Too early to be close to definitive re timings for what'll be the delayed QF4, except that this 1930 hours ex JFK scheduled flight is likely to depart post-2045.
I have been watching the recently reinstated QF29/30 ,seems to be late leaving both HKG & MEL, any thoughts @Melburnian1 Thanks
 
In more on Sunday 25 June, B789 VH-ZNG as QF27, the 1235 hours SYD-SCL was airborne exactly an hour after timetabled departure, it having pushed back at 1315. Estimated at gate arrival in Chile is approximately 1144 hours same day, 39 late.

Right behind it was QF19 (1215 hours SYD-MNL) with A333 VH-QPD that was in the sky at 1338, so its gate arrival looks like 1934, 44 down.
 
I have been watching the recently reinstated QF29/30 ,seems to be late leaving both HKG & MEL, any thoughts @Melburnian1 Thanks

The three return trips I could access via FR24 all showed QF29 (the pleasantly timed 1245 hours MEL-HKG) being formed by different arrivals. Lunchtime is an excellent time to depart for an Oz east coast to Asia trip. It enables air connections from other capitals such as Hobart, and rural centres such as Mildura, and also surface transport connections such as by rail from Albury, Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo. It's also a good time to arrive in most of Asia, two or three hours before many will want to rest weary heads.

On all three occasions it's been an A332 northeast bound.

On 20 June 2023, one surmises something went wrong as the scheduled 1230 hours arriving QF70 ex DEL formed this departure that was impossibly due out 15 minutes later. No wonder it wasn't timely.

Two days later, QF423, the 0830 hours SYD-MEL formed it, arriving MEL 61 minutes late at 1106. This should be just enough time (99 minutes) to turn the aircraft around for the journey to HKG, but it was not, as the plane had to transfer from MEL's QFd domestic terminal to the international terminal.

Similar occurred yesterday, 24 June, when QF427, the 0900 hours SYD-MEL ran 38 minutes late into its gate in MEL, arriving at 1113 hours. Again, just impossible to depart on time in 92 minutes given the need for the aircraft to reposition to the separate (though not far away as the crow flies) international terminal.

Given only 90 minutes is allowed for alighting and boarding passengers in HKG, plus taking off/loading freight and mail, cleaning, unloading and loading catering, the crew change plus completing pre-flight checks, it's unlikely the turnaround can be reduced much.

However the southbound flight sometimes seems (at this time of year anyway) to be capable of picking up almost an hour on the timetable.

Like all transport operators, QFi will have a roster, but so far, there's no discernible pattern to outsiders like me. We need a larger sample of a few weeks to see if there's consistency on various days of the week when this thrice weekly flight operates.

At this very early stage, the way in which aircraft have been used for 'the 29' suggests it's a low priority flight, because having to shift a plane between terminals with not much time left on the clock hardly maximises the chances of good punctuality.

The 1 July 2023 departure is displaying as an A330-300 not the '-200' model.

The good news is from this insufficient sample, there've not been any cancellations.
 
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Continuing with Sunday 25, QF63, the often punctual 1000 hours SYD to JNB B789 is delayed to an expected latish afternoon pushback at 1640, 400 minutes late. This will badly delay the overnight QF64 from JNB across the ocean and Great Australian Bight to Sydney, with arrival unlikely before 2100 hours on Monday 26 mid evening.

The B789-operated QF63 (as at 1424 AEST on Sunday 25 June) is now showing as 'cancelled' on FR24 (as Flyerqf menioned above, thank you) but Qantas' flight status states that this flight will depart an incredible 2160 minutes (36 hours) late at 2200 hours late on Monday night, 26 June 2023. Arrival in JNB will only be good for sparrows, at 0415 on Tuesday 27.

The Sunday 25 QF64 has been altered to depart South Africa's JNB at 1020 hours on Tuesday 27, 2440 minutes late (or more than 40 hours behind schedule). This is necessary due to the SYD curfew. Arrival should be at 0610 hours on Wednesday. One heck of a journey, although perhaps not passengers' preferred outcome.
 
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The diverted via SIN QF9 (b789 VH-ZNC) was in Lion City from 0128 hours on Saturday 24 to 0018 on Sunday 25, taking off at 0042. LHR arrival should be about 0610 hours today (Sunday), 1505 minutes late.
Notably this flight is operating as QF1D, rather than QF9D, no doubt due to the route it is operating over. As I write, VH-ZNC is ~30 minutes out of Heathrow.
 
Adding to today's numerous woes, QF43, the B738 usually at 1625 hours in the afternoon from SYD up to Bali's DPS has also got the flick.
 
The 'normal' QF10 (VH-ZNF) should arrive at its gate at LHR at 0508, only three minutes late. Either could form the overnight delayed QF10 back down to PER and perhaps onwards to MEL.
As ZNF was moving to a layover bay at the time of my last post, it seems more likely that the now arrived ZNC may continue with the delayed flight.
 
It turned back to Perth about 4 hours into the flight before deciding to go to SIN.

On airliners someone has suggested that 9 is going to continue to LHR empty with passengers re-accommodated on other flights. Crew probably timed out and no full spare crew in SIN which doesn’t have regular 789 ops.
I think the SIN diversion improved the prospects of getting the aircraft and crew to LHR in the shortest possible time
From the point of diversion to SIN it was 2:15hrs to SIN rather than another 3:15min back to PER - this saved 1 hour.
SIN to LHR is 13hrs and PER to LHR is 17hrs
Total flight time saved = 5hrs.

I dont know about how much time is required to reset the clock for the flight deck pilots or cabin crew.
They appeared to have approx 23hrs in SIN assuming the same crew operated ZNC to LHR from SIN.

What was the reason for the divert?

QF9 is departing SIN at 1600
A 1600hrs departure from SIN would have make the LHR arrival at 2300hrs and might have put it at risk of arriving during the LHR night operation period (AKA curfew)
 
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I wonder if this is FR doing this, because I cannot find QF1D. Everything, including on qantas.com is showing as QF9.

Whether QF1D as 789nerd suggested or the 'traditional' QF9 (perhaps with a 'D' suffix), it arrived LHR on Sunday 25 June 2023 at 0700 hours, 1555 minutes late.
 
It hasn't taken long!

The first major delay for recently instituted QF3, the 0935 hours thrice weekly SYD-0AKL that continues at 1635 hours from AKL to JFK is on Sunday 25 June. The initial sector is estimated to push back at 1200 'high noon' with B789 VH-ZNM, QF's newest aircraft, and then to depart AKL at 1905 hours this evening (1705 AEST), 150 minutes late. While the aircraft should pick up some time (especially on the second sector), QF4 ex JFK on Sunday evening is guaranteed to be tardy.

The expected departure of B789 VH-ZNM on QF3 from AKL up to JFK has allegedly been put back a further hour, to 2005 hours on Sunday 25 (1805 AEST) according to FR24, although Qantas' flight status still suggests '1905'. Time will tell which is closest to being correct. (The aircraft arrived AKL at 1705, 145 minut6es behind schedule).
 
It hasn't taken long!

The first major delay for recently instituted QF3, the 0935 hours thrice weekly SYD-0AKL that continues at 1635 hours from AKL to JFK is on Sunday 25 June. The initial sector is estimated to push back at 1200 'high noon' with B789 VH-ZNM, QF's newest aircraft, and then to depart AKL at 1905 hours this evening (1705 AEST), 150 minutes late. While the aircraft should pick up some time (especially on the second sector), QF4 ex JFK on Sunday evening is guaranteed to be tardy.

ZNM had arrived in SYD this morning at 0846 hours, six minutes late as QF4 from JFK/AKL. It wouldn't be normal for QF4 to 'form its own' (i.e. QF3 returning to NZ and the USA), as a 55 minute turnaround time would be grossly insufficient, the more so if some minor maintenance tewaking is needed after its tours of duty.
Looks like ZNH (which had overnighted in SYD) was due to operate QF3 today. It was swapped out for QF63, which was delayed and then cancelled. ZNH remains grounded.
 
I wonder if this is FR doing this, because I cannot find QF1D. Everything, including on qantas.com is showing as QF9.
Both FR24 and Flight Aware show VH-ZNC as using QF1D as its call sign for the SIN-LHR leg of the diverted/delayed QF9 flight.
AFAIK Qantas Flight Status has rarely shown 'D' flight call signs, usually only flight numbers.
Looks like ZNH (which had overnighted in SYD) was due to operate QF3 today. It was swapped out for QF63, which was delayed and then cancelled. ZNH remains grounded.
As Melburnian1 has already pointed out, Sunday's QF63 has not been cancelled. Its delayed departure is shown on Qantas Flight Schedule to be at 22:00 AEST Monday.
 
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Looks like ZNH (which had overnighted in SYD) was due to operate QF3 today. It was swapped out for QF63, which was delayed and then cancelled. ZNH remains grounded.

Your information is normally first class but it can pay to read a few postings (backwards) in case one of us has seen "it" already, or have come across a recent change as seemed to occur with the status of QF63 today. I'm unsure why QF would give FR24 information that the flight was 'cancelled' only to then state it is instead operating with a huge delay. Mine is not to reason 'why!'
 

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