Qantas Delays/Cancellations

QF's information acknowledges that the delayed QF3 sitting in Auckland NZ (B789 VH-ZNM) has been put back not just to 2005 hours, but 2015.
 
The delayed QF3 on Sunday 25 June from AKL was in the sky at 2043. Further revised likely gate arrival at iconic JFK is 2002 hours, 192 minutes behind schedule.

Hopefully B789 VH-ZNM should be able to turn around by 2145 hours, the new mooted pushback (135 minutes beyond timetabled departure of 1930 hours on Sunday). AKL departure of what should be the 0700 hours Tuesday 27 to SYD is suggested as 0750, perhaps optimistic.
 
B789 VH-ZNC has pushed back with QF10D a further 19 minutes late at 08:49 BST. No change to Perth arrival time yet.

QFi suggests this will arrive PER at 0832 hours local time tomorrow morning, Monday 26 June, 1252 minutes late. MEL arrival later that day is claimed as 1520 hours mid afternoon.
 
There could be some congestion in the QFi PER lounge tomorrow morning as QF6 (B789 VH-ZNB, the 1050 hours 25 June FCO-PER-SYD) has just taken off at 1153, meaning likely PER at gate arrival at 0908 tomorrow, 38 late.
 
As Melburnian1 has already pointed out, Sunday's QF63 has not been cancelled. Its delayed departure is shown on Qantas Flight Schedule to be at 22:00 AEST Monday.
I must have missed the post. I am sure it was showing as cancelled earlier today.

Strange scenario where today’s flight is taking off some 12 hours later than tomorrow’s flight.
 
The B789-operated QF63 (as at 1424 AEST on Sunday 25 June) is now showing as 'cancelled' on FR24 (as Flyerqf menioned above, thank you) but Qantas' flight status states that this flight will depart an incredible 2160 minutes (36 hours) late at 2200 hours late on Monday night, 26 June 2023.
As a result of this, QF73 on Monday 26 is cancelled.
 
The three return trips I could access via FR24 all showed QF29 (the pleasantly timed 1245 hours MEL-HKG) being formed by different arrivals. Lunchtime is an excellent time to depart for an Oz east coast to Asia trip. It enables air connections from other capitals such as Hobart, and rural centres such as Mildura, and also surface transport connections such as by rail from Albury, Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo. It's also a good time to arrive in most of Asia, two or three hours before many will want to rest weary heads.

On all three occasions it's been an A332 northeast bound.

On 20 June 2023, one surmises something went wrong as the scheduled 1230 hours arriving QF70 ex DEL formed this departure that was impossibly due out 15 minutes later. No wonder it wasn't timely.

Two days later, QF423, the 0830 hours SYD-MEL formed it, arriving MEL 61 minutes late at 1106. This should be just enough time (99 minutes) to turn the aircraft around for the journey to HKG, but it was not, as the plane had to transfer from MEL's QFd domestic terminal to the international terminal.

Similar occurred yesterday, 24 June, when QF427, the 0900 hours SYD-MEL ran 38 minutes late into its gate in MEL, arriving at 1113 hours. Again, just impossible to depart on time in 92 minutes given the need for the aircraft to reposition to the separate (though not far away as the crow flies) international terminal.

Given only 90 minutes is allowed for alighting and boarding passengers in HKG, plus taking off/loading freight and mail, cleaning, unloading and loading catering, the crew change plus completing pre-flight checks, it's unlikely the turnaround can be reduced much.

However the southbound flight sometimes seems (at this time of year anyway) to be capable of picking up almost an hour on the timetable.

Like all transport operators, QFi will have a roster, but so far, there's no discernible pattern to outsiders like me. We need a larger sample of a few weeks to see if there's consistency on various days of the week when this thrice weekly flight operates.

At this very early stage, the way in which aircraft have been used for 'the 29' suggests it's a low priority flight, because having to shift a plane between terminals with not much time left on the clock hardly maximises the chances of good punctuality.

The 1 July 2023 departure is displaying as an A330-300 not the '-200' model.

The good news is from this insufficient sample, there've not been any cancellations.
Thank you @Melburnian1 for your comprehensive explanation.
Our QF30 is in September, so not fussed if we have delayed departure.
Looking forward to it✈️
 
Has QF10 (Sun scheduled departure) taken off? QF shows as “in flight” but on FR24, FA and LHR website, looks like flight left gate nearly 2 hours ago but not yet in the air.
 
Has QF10 (Sun scheduled departure) taken off? QF shows as “in flight” but on FR24, FA and LHR website, looks like flight left gate nearly 2 hours ago but not yet in the air.

This is B789 VH-ZNF. According to QF, it departed at 1414 hours (though perhaps, as you imply, it may have had to return to gate). It was airborne from LHR on Sunday 25 June at 1430 hours, and is likely to arrive at its PER gate on Monday 26 at 1355 hours this afternoon local time, 135 minutes late. Again optimistically, QF maintains it'll push back in Perth at 1510 hours for MEL arrival at 2025 hours, 105 minuets behind schedule.
 
On Monday 26 June, due to QF19 being even later, QF20 from MNL to SYD arrived at 0712 hours, 34 late with A333 VH-QPD.

B789 VH-ZNL on the long haul DFW down to SYD snuck in a little before that, at 0703 hours, 48 late.

Monday's QF9, the 1505 hours MEL-PER and then second sector being at 1845 for the much lengthier trip to LHR is expected respectively to push back at 1645 and 2025, so LHR arrival on Tuesday 27 local time will be post-0600 hours, though far to soon to make an accurate forecast.
 
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Wait, what?
QF73 is cancelled because QF63 is late which means the aircraft from JNB to SYD (QF64) wont be able to go to SFO tonight.

Have I got that right?
 
On Monday 26 June 2023, QF127, which has been quite a good runner since the change from an A3800, has A333 VH-QPE. This 1015 hours flight was airborne at 1120 so expected at gate arrival is 1830, 35 minutes late.

Earlier, B738 VH-XZD on QF143, the 0850 hours SYD-AKL took off at 1002, so arrival should be about 1429, 34 behind schedule.

B789 VH-ZNM on the delayed QF3 from AKL to JFK reached its gate at the latter on Sunday evening, 25 June at 1956 hours, 186 minutes late. The returning QF4 across the Pacific has changed from the originally altered '2145 hours' to the strangely USA-exact measurement of '2237 hours', the latter projection being 187 late. It may pick up some time on the two sectors but is likely to not be in SYD tomorrow morning (Tuesday 27) until after 1045 hours (scheduled arrival is 0840 hours).

The Monday MEL-DEL QF69 has A332 VH-EBR with this 0925 hours flight not pointing skywards until 90 minutes later, so suggested arrival is 1918 hours, 98 minutes tardy. The returning redeye QF70 will be adversely affected. This is the fourth consecutive time (at least) when 'the 69' has been (or will be) at least half an hour late arriving in New Delhi.
 
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The delayed QF4 took off with B789 VH-ZNM bang on 2300 hours on Sunday 25 June, with expected Tuesday 27 arrival in distant AKL at 0744 hours at gate, 164 minutes late. This is a slight improvement from being 186 minutes tardy in arriving at JFK.
 

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