Melburnian1
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QF's information acknowledges that the delayed QF3 sitting in Auckland NZ (B789 VH-ZNM) has been put back not just to 2005 hours, but 2015.
B789 VH-ZNC has pushed back with QF10D a further 19 minutes late at 08:49 BST. No change to Perth arrival time yet.
I must have missed the post. I am sure it was showing as cancelled earlier today.As Melburnian1 has already pointed out, Sunday's QF63 has not been cancelled. Its delayed departure is shown on Qantas Flight Schedule to be at 22:00 AEST Monday.
As a result of this, QF73 on Monday 26 is cancelled.The B789-operated QF63 (as at 1424 AEST on Sunday 25 June) is now showing as 'cancelled' on FR24 (as Flyerqf menioned above, thank you) but Qantas' flight status states that this flight will depart an incredible 2160 minutes (36 hours) late at 2200 hours late on Monday night, 26 June 2023.
Thank you @Melburnian1 for your comprehensive explanation.The three return trips I could access via FR24 all showed QF29 (the pleasantly timed 1245 hours MEL-HKG) being formed by different arrivals. Lunchtime is an excellent time to depart for an Oz east coast to Asia trip. It enables air connections from other capitals such as Hobart, and rural centres such as Mildura, and also surface transport connections such as by rail from Albury, Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo. It's also a good time to arrive in most of Asia, two or three hours before many will want to rest weary heads.
On all three occasions it's been an A332 northeast bound.
On 20 June 2023, one surmises something went wrong as the scheduled 1230 hours arriving QF70 ex DEL formed this departure that was impossibly due out 15 minutes later. No wonder it wasn't timely.
Two days later, QF423, the 0830 hours SYD-MEL formed it, arriving MEL 61 minutes late at 1106. This should be just enough time (99 minutes) to turn the aircraft around for the journey to HKG, but it was not, as the plane had to transfer from MEL's QFd domestic terminal to the international terminal.
Similar occurred yesterday, 24 June, when QF427, the 0900 hours SYD-MEL ran 38 minutes late into its gate in MEL, arriving at 1113 hours. Again, just impossible to depart on time in 92 minutes given the need for the aircraft to reposition to the separate (though not far away as the crow flies) international terminal.
Given only 90 minutes is allowed for alighting and boarding passengers in HKG, plus taking off/loading freight and mail, cleaning, unloading and loading catering, the crew change plus completing pre-flight checks, it's unlikely the turnaround can be reduced much.
However the southbound flight sometimes seems (at this time of year anyway) to be capable of picking up almost an hour on the timetable.
Like all transport operators, QFi will have a roster, but so far, there's no discernible pattern to outsiders like me. We need a larger sample of a few weeks to see if there's consistency on various days of the week when this thrice weekly flight operates.
At this very early stage, the way in which aircraft have been used for 'the 29' suggests it's a low priority flight, because having to shift a plane between terminals with not much time left on the clock hardly maximises the chances of good punctuality.
The 1 July 2023 departure is displaying as an A330-300 not the '-200' model.
The good news is from this insufficient sample, there've not been any cancellations.
Has QF10 (Sun scheduled departure) taken off? QF shows as “in flight” but on FR24, FA and LHR website, looks like flight left gate nearly 2 hours ago but not yet in the air.
The 93 is late leaving tonight too
that’s rightWait, what?
QF73 is cancelled because QF63 is late which means the aircraft from JNB to SYD (QF64) wont be able to go to SFO tonight.
Have I got that right?
While the return QF74 (Monday 26 PST) has simply disappeared from the schedule & timetable.As a result of this, QF73 on Monday 26 is cancelled.
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While the return QF74 (Monday 26 PST) has simply disappeared from the schedule & timetable.