Qantas / Emirates tie up (Partnership inc. Codeshare, Status)

[JohnK]

Having a look at Emirates' destinations in Europe and Qantas' current codeshare destinations, it looks like Emirates doesn't fly to Toulouse, Budapest, Brussels, Berlin, Hanover, Stockholm, Oslo, Shannon and Aberdeen. Is it anticipated that the BA codeshares to these destinations will continue?

Once the JSA ends the codeshares may also disappear. What is to stop anyone flying on the BA flight code anyway?

 

[medhead]

Once the JSA ends the codeshares may also disappear. What is to stop anyone flying on the BA flight code anyway?

Codeshares earn more points.


Sent from the Throne

 

[Aussie_flyer]

They may not codeshare on syd-sin-lhr but I suspect many intra-European codeshares will remain.

 

[JohnK]

Codeshares earn more points.

The points should not really matter on such a short intra-Europe flight.

 

[medhead]

The points should not really matter on such a short intra-Europe flight.

1000 vs a couple of hundred LHR-GLA. Is a bit of a difference.


Sent from the Throne

 

[Princess Fiona]

1000 vs a couple of hundred LHR-GLA. Is a bit of a difference.


Sent from the Throne

I've never usually bothered having it as a QF codeshare. Once this EK arrangement is in place I will fly DXB-GLA on EK metal. The pain of the LHR transit will be a distant memory

 

[Paddy55]

I've never usually bothered having it as a QF codeshare. Once this EK arrangement is in place I will fly DXB-GLA on EK metal. The pain of the LHR transit will be a distant memory

Amen to that... won't miss Heathrow!

 

[Aussie_flyer]

you also get your Qantas status bonus on Qantas codeshares within europe. it's well worth doing, if a route is 800 miles, on BA it's probably 200 points to QF, but if your on the QF code and platinum its 1600.

 

[wandering_fred]

Codeshares earn more points.

Those of us crediting to AA, it is the other way round as BA flights earn more than QF flights. Of source, at this point EK flights don't earn at all.

As to the discussion between the 25% and full credit, when you are trying to scrounge up 50K EQM/EQP - every little bit helps.

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[drron]

Those of us crediting to AA, it is the other way round as BA flights earn more than QF flights. Of source, at this point EK flights don't earn at all.

As to the discussion between the 25% and full credit, when you are trying to scrounge up 50K EQM/EQP - every little bit helps.

Happy wandering

Fred

That's why I made a concerted effort to reach LTP before they changed the system.Now I can fly on Aaward flights most of the time.
Prior to this announcement QF/AA said they were working towards a closer relationship.I wonder if that's another casualty.

 

[Sprucegoose]

That's why I made a concerted effort to reach LTP before they changed the system.Now I can fly on Aaward flights most of the time.
Prior to this announcement QF/AA said they were working towards a closer relationship.I wonder if that's another casualty.

I can understand why the pommie relationship has to go by the wayside, but it would be foolish of young Al to ignore the most lucrative market in the world. AA opens such other possibilities that EK cant match in that part of the world.

It will be interesting to watch this space.

 

[anat0l]

Prior to this announcement QF/AA said they were working towards a closer relationship.I wonder if that's another casualty.

I thought that was mainly out of the Trans-Pacific flights and DFW common hubbing. Most of that has been achieved.

Perhaps if EK wanted to codeshare on Trans-Pacific traffic, could that give QF more impetus to have more regular flights, or on new (or returned) destinations, which could also synergise with an AA codeshare?

I don't see what QF/AA could do further except mimicing the QF/BA JSA that has just been amicably terminated, which could only mean consistent points earn on Trans-Pacific routes. That means little for QF and more for AA (i.e. an extra 0.5 points per mile in all Economy classes). Not to mention that unlike the QF/BA JSA coming to an end, AA isn't operating any Trans-Pacific flights (except to North Asia) - it would be an interesting JSA to include QF routings like Australia - China - USA or Australia - Singapore - USA (with stop) or Australia - Japan - USA (and yes I know there are some of these being flown as well as being available from at least the QF Classic Award engine). If the latter options are something to entertain then QF re-timing flights to Asia and possibly upping frequencies should help support / give impetus to this.

I know I speak mostly in only potentialities, but I suppose that's the flipside (if albeit the overly optimistic cf. cautiously pessimistic) of thinking that the QF/EK partnership has destroyed all other new relationships.

 

[Platinum A332]

WELL, some people cant wait to pick on other peoples ording, must wait for people to post then find fault ,When i said merger I bet 99 people out of a 100 knew what was meant , never mind eh

A lot of financial analysts put forward the opinion that in many respects it is like a merger operationally, but without any sort of financial transaction.

 

[anat0l]

Do you think when this merger takes place we can get PE from Per to Europe etc, as now you cant with EK

WELL, some people cant wait to pick on other peoples ording, must wait for people to post then find fault ,When i said merger I bet 99 people out of a 100 knew what was meant , never mind eh

"Merger" would probably make people a whole lot more nervous!

But take it easy - it's not like people dished the 3rd degree on you....


To answer your original question, I'm going to guess mainly 'no', and for the reason you stated - EK doesn't have PE, and I'm not sure they will necessarily start.

You could fly to DXB then a QF flight with PE to LHR, but that means your longest sector will be in EK Y - not ideal.

Otherwise, there's flights to SIN on QF then with BA World Traveller Plus to LHR (not as good as QF, but perhaps cheaper after the JSA dissolves); or CX via HKG, which may or may not have PE equipped aircraft going between PER and HKG, then further afield to your desired European destination (or BA to LHR).

Failing that there is always the longer, coughbersome option of flying to the East Coast to connect to QF1 or QF9. For anyone but the unorthodox flyer, probably not ideal.

 

[Flashback]

I've never usually bothered having it as a QF codeshare. Once this EK arrangement is in place I will fly DXB-GLA on EK metal. The pain of the LHR transit will be a distant memory

Amen to that... won't miss Heathrow!

That's fine... just fly over... don't stop in and say hello...

......

 

[simongr]

you also get your Qantas status bonus on Qantas codeshares within europe. it's well worth doing, if a route is 800 miles, on BA it's probably 200 points to QF, but if your on the QF code and platinum its 1600.

You get your status bonus on any BA flight don't you? If it earns points then it earns status bonus. The difference isn't huge though in your example - you would get 400 rather than 200 points.

EDIT

Wow 12,000 posts...

 

[drron]

The relationship I gathered was along the lines of the AA/JAL or AA/IAG tie up.Possibility of upgrading on partner airline.There also have been rumours of possible AA return to Australasia.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Sorry if this has been asked before.

Once the QF/EK tie up happens next year, would it be possible to fly F, PER-DXB-LHR on EK metal, but using QF points?

 

[simongr]

I would expect so.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

ok, cheers simongr.