Qantas / Emirates tie up (Partnership inc. Codeshare, Status)

[markis10]

EK have an abundance of aircraft on order but that alone is not sufficient to meet their existing expansion plans.

Emirates have already stated that they believe they will need an additional 30 A380 for their expansion into LAS, SFO & DFW and other US ports.

Which will continue to free up smaller aircraft like the A330s and triplers, believe the current tripler utilisation is at 70% and they have A330s in storage.

 

[simongr]

What is a tripler?

 

[markis10]

What is a tripler?

Sorry 777 I should say rather than use pilot slang.

 

[PineappleSkip]

Possibility 1 - going back to an A330
Possibility 2 - going to be an EK service only with QF codeshare.

Neither possibilities at all inspiring.

QFs Y+ pricing appears to be an all round mess at the moment.

Cheers skip

 

[simongr]

Cheers - I was imagining a TriStar

 

[markis10]

Interesting start date for an additional BKK service just loaded in the GDS by EK according to airlineroute.net:

Emirates starting 31MAR13 is launching 5th daily service on Dubai – Bangkok service, initially operated by 3-class Airbus A330-200 aircraft. From 01SEP13, the new flight (EK376/377) will switch from A330-200 to 3-class 777-300ER aircraft with First Class Suite. Reservation for this new flight opened this morning.

 

[docjames]

Interesting start date for an additional BKK service just loaded in the GDS by EK according to airlineroute.net:

Emirates starting 31MAR13 is launching 5th daily service on Dubai – Bangkok service, initially operated by 3-class Airbus A330-200 aircraft. From 01SEP13, the new flight (EK376/377) will switch from A330-200 to 3-class 777-300ER aircraft with First Class Suite. Reservation for this new flight opened this morning.

Lanyard idea on arrival time into Bkk and current QF timings to Bkk?

 

[ozmille]

Lanyard idea on arrival time into Bkk and current QF timings to Bkk?

1 EK 385 0135 0440 P4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U0 A380
2 EK 419 0240 0545 P4 A4 J7 C0 I0 O0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U0 K0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0 77W
3 EK 375 0955 1300 F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 Q9 773
4 EK 377 1525 1830 P4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 H9 Q9 L9 T9 V9 X9 77W
5 EK 373 2120 0030+1 P4 A3 J7 C7 I7 O7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 Q9 77W

QF arrives in BKK
1 QF 023 1215 1850 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 GL 330

So except for EK373 there are no real good connections in BKK arriving on QF

 

[ajw373]

1 EK 385 0135 0440 P4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U0 A380
2 EK 419 0240 0545 P4 A4 J7 C0 I0 O0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U0 K0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0 77W
3 EK 375 0955 1300 F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 Q9 773
4 EK 377 1525 1830 P4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 H9 Q9 L9 T9 V9 X9 77W
5 EK 373 2120 0030+1 P4 A3 J7 C7 I7 O7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 Q9 77W

QF arrives in BKK
1 QF 023 1215 1850 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 GL 330

So except for EK373 there are no real good connections in BKK arriving on QF

Why does Qantas need to connect with Emirates in Bangkok anyway, when both Qantas and Emirates will be offering direct flights from Sydney which is clearly where the QF flight orginates. What Qantas needs somewhere in Asia is an asian airline to connect with.

 

[Spizz]

Why does Qantas need to connect with Emirates in Bangkok anyway, when both Qantas and Emirates will be offering direct flights from Sydney which is clearly where the QF flight orginates. What Qantas needs somewhere in Asia is an asian airline to connect with.

Was going to say the same. Won't you be able to use EK from Sydney direct to BKK via Qantas?

 

[zachary.august]

Perhaps QF will operate services like ADL-BKK, BNE-BKK and PER-BKK to hook in with EK services to Dubai and onwards?

Or a sadder and frankly more likely scenario, EK are going to expand that service once it switches to a 777 to operate BKK-SYD-BKK and take over the current QF service. Freeing up an A330 to operate say HNL or other services into Asia.

 

[Pushka]

The only international destination Qantas flies into Adelaide is Singapore and that's only a couple of times a week so can't see any expansion there.

 

[kelvedon]

So as the traditional Kangaroo route via Asia enters the twilight of its life, and new names have been suggested for it's Arabian replacement, including the Falcon route, I thought maybe we could call it the "Date Route", and reliving any teenage boys dream, come April we could all enjoy a first date route.

 

[serfty]

Boom boom!

FWIW, Earlier postings in this thread have indicated "The Falcon Route".

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Oil Route
Sheik route
Flying Sheik route
Date route
Via the Sandpit
Khalifa route

I personally like the 'Sandpit'. I think on PPRuNE they (pilots) refer to it (Dubai/Middle East) as the 'Sandpit' already.

 

[nlagalle]

Oil Route
Sheik route
Flying Sheik route
Date route
Via the Sandpit
Khalifa route

I personally like the 'Sandpit'. I think on PPRuNE they (pilots) refer to it (Dubai/Middle East) as the 'Sandpit' already.

the "date route" could have a totally different meaning....

 

[wingspan]

Haha all very creative names but it's still just a kangaroo route.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

the "date route" could have a totally different meaning....

I know. When I read kelvodone's post, l had to do a triple take....

 

[Happy Trails]

the "date route" could have a totally different meaning....

Indeed.
And quite apposite to the EK / QF relationship I fear.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Haha all very creative names but it's still just a kangaroo route.

I thought that there was some significance to the 'Kangaroo route', as it went - "UK - SIN - Australia" - all part of the Commonwealth. I'm probably wrong though....