Qantas / Emirates tie up (Partnership inc. Codeshare, Status)

[amaroo]

More likely FASAs were booked by me 12 months prior at classic levels - all 1 P inventory available per flight, on selected flights

Hahaha.....that's one seat from the very regular returns of 5-9 that have been available over the past couple of months. Upgrades are money - so good business.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

Hahaha.....that's one seat from the very regular returns of 5-9 that have been available over the past couple of months. Upgrades are money - so good business.

Are you suggesting you have seen P9 in inventory? If so, this would only be during the upgrade seat release period... Otherwise I call BS.

 

[amaroo]

Are you suggesting you have seen P9 in inventory? If so, this would only be during the upgrade seat release period... Otherwise I call BS.

I'm talking seats - not class!

Take a look at the posts above......It's not that difficult to follow the theme of the posts.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

I'm talking seats - not class!

Take a look at the posts above......It's not that difficult to follow the theme of the posts.

I was reading about full cabins and upgrades.

I think you might be seeing the age-old concept of overselling.

You also mentioned 2 x FASAs (presumably at classic levels), which I believe you have a snowball's chance in hell of acquiring at the last minute, which book out of the P fare bucket, hence my post indicating the lack of inventory, IME, one seat available on 'selected' flights.

Anyway, apologies if I have offended you. Enjoy your flight.

 

[ajw373]

Doesn't seem to be working for me. Entering the booking ref (of my 081 QF ticket) and the surname on EK.com jsut results in this error message.

• Sorry, we were unable to find your booking. Please enter the Name/PNR details as given in your Eticket.

Should I e-mail them and ask for a EK booking ref?

Your not by chance doing what I did the first time and had the PNR and name around the wrong way?

 

[drron]

Err - Houston - we have a problem.

I can see wide availability for PE fares flying CX SYD-HKG-LHR return for $3508 in May/June/July (not sure about the point earn on CX)

But would you pay $3804 for a one way PE fare SYD-DBX-LHR on QF and then get an Y seat on EK from DXB-LHR
or instead would you pay $3508 for a return PE fare SYD-HKG-LHR on CX and actually get PE seating all the way there and back?

Am I missing something?

This is probably because CX is introducing it's 5th daily flight HKG-LHR taking over an NZ slot at LHR.Their press release comments that it means an extra 1000 PE seats to LHR per week.? digging the knife a little further into QFs back.
Cathay Pacific to Introduce Fifth Daily Flight to London :: Routesonline

 

[PineappleSkip]

CX have had those fares on for quite a while, and VA, VS and BA pricing has been comparable, also for a while. Plenty of Y+ bargains out there, just not with Qantas. Cheers skip

 

[anat0l]

This is probably because CX is introducing it's 5th daily flight HKG-LHR taking over an NZ slot at LHR.Their press release comments that it means an extra 1000 PE seats to LHR per week.? digging the knife a little further into QFs back.

Bring it on. Why should variety be a bad thing?

Whether it lights a fire under QF for capacity and/or price, or doesn't and just simply offers more options for people - why not?

I would love it if CX re-introduced First Class flights to Australia. I'm sure there's enough oneworld traffic to fill even one flight a day on that kind of traffic.

 

[Awesom Andy]

It seems to me that pax ex-AU (especially on QF) love Y+. However, the less than ideal economic conditions else where appears to restrict the popularity of Y+ somewhat. The CX Y+ is a reasonable deal when using AsiaMiles as well - only 20% extra miles on top of the usual Y amount, where with cash, Y+ is roughly double the price of discount Y.

 

[dajop]

Fuel Surcharges & QF tie up: Just an update on EK fuel surcharges, probably not warranting its own thread. It seems that EK have now introduced a YQ charge (fuel surcharge) on Skywards bookings originating in Australia/New Zealand. YQ's are not charged for flights from other points of origin (at extreme MEL-SIN return award in J is $330 AUD or so more in taxes/surcharges than SIN-MEL return, in Y the difference is much less at $60AUD). No doubt one of the enhancements resulting from the tie up with QF, but certainly gives an indication of what will happen with fuel surcharging on EK flights booked through QFF.

 

[defurax]

Fuel Surcharges & QF tie up: Just an update on EK fuel surcharges, probably not warranting its own thread. It seems that EK have now introduced a YQ charge (fuel surcharge) on Skywards bookings originating in Australia/New Zealand. YQ's are not charged for flights from other points of origin (at extreme MEL-SIN return award in J is $330 AUD or so more in taxes/surcharges than SIN-MEL return, in Y the difference is much less at $60AUD). No doubt one of the enhancements resulting from the tie up with QF, but certainly gives an indication of what will happen with fuel surcharging on EK flights booked through QFF.

Maybe in a few years they will have to add the "Dreamliner battery improvement charge"

 

[anat0l]

Fuel Surcharges & QF tie up: Just an update on EK fuel surcharges, probably not warranting its own thread. It seems that EK have now introduced a YQ charge (fuel surcharge) on Skywards bookings originating in Australia/New Zealand. YQ's are not charged for flights from other points of origin (at extreme MEL-SIN return award in J is $330 AUD or so more in taxes/surcharges than SIN-MEL return, in Y the difference is much less at $60AUD). No doubt one of the enhancements resulting from the tie up with QF, but certainly gives an indication of what will happen with fuel surcharging on EK flights booked through QFF.

Aargh... carp. That's not very nice, and certainly this is going to be a change that will not be received well.

So it's only for Skywards bookings from Australia / New Zealand? (If you bought a similar revenue fare, would it have a YQ component?)

Interesting - seems like a BA/AAdvantage kind of tack.... also means QF "protects" itself from not collecting the YQ when it puts codeshare numbers on its flights, as well as collecting it when it charges points for EK Classic Awards, or Any Seat Awards on EK operated flights.

If it stands as you've said, at the worst at least it's only about half as much as what one would expect for YQ on a return ticket, which does considerably soften the hit.

 

[dajop]

So it's only for Skywards bookings from Australia / New Zealand? (If you bought a similar revenue fare, would it have a YQ component?)

Yep, and revenue fares apparently have a YQ component as well. No YQ on either revenue fares or Skywards bookings ex-SIN, not sure about other points of origin.

If it stands as you've said, at the worst at least it's only about half as much as what one would expect for YQ on a return ticket, which does considerably soften the hit.

In Y, the YQ is fairly small compared to QF. In J, it is about the same as QF's YQ for return flights to Asia, but about half of QF's YQ for return flights to Europe.

 

[Brettmcg]

I think QF will match EK. EK's Platinum requires 150,000 miles for qualification.

And Simon Hickey had stated and EK wouldn't want EK elites to switch to QF (as qualification is easier) IMHO QF will raise the requirements/re-qualification to 1800/1600 SC's. I concede this may be at the higher end of the spectrum for qualification, but i can't foresee the qualification bar not being raised.

I asked the question at the Rockpool lunch today. The response was that adjusting the qual/requal levels for WP is not something that has crossed QF's mind as part of the EK JSA. The much higher EK requirement (SG to WP) reflects the nature of frequent flying done on that airline (predominantly long-haul, premium travel, higher SC earn). QF believe the current levels work well for them especially considering the strength of the domestic business which mostly sees shorter trips with a lower SC earn.

 

[drross]

Hope the lunch was enjoyable. And thanks for the update

 

[Isochronous]

That's a good explanation for the SC levels, actually

Will QF numbers be on every European and African EK flight out of DXB?

 

[MrJetset]

That's a good explanation for the SC levels, actually

Will QF numbers be on every European and African EK flight out of DXB?

A list of codeshares is available in the pdf no?

 

[alieninperth]

Re: Singapore QF/BA lounge new changes

Don't know about that, but do know you can be done in Adelaide though. Happened to my old mum 10 years ago!

I was 'cautioned' by the police for doing this last year in Perth.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Re: Singapore QF/BA lounge new changes

Apart from public displays of affection how is that much different to Singapore? Singapore oppressive heat and humidity. Tick. Homosexuality illegal. Tick. Common over the counter drugs banned. Tick. (actually you need to check EVERY country you travel to as many countries are not as liberal as Australia in this regards, but guess you only heard that about the UAE because people on here in particular are looking for downsides to nit pick Qantas' decision to transit UAE) Severe punishment for something as simple as chewing gum. Tick. Boring. Tick.

Bottom line is every country has pluses and minuses. You don't like the UEA, fine, many don't like Singapore either, me being one, I reckon it is boring as bat poop after the first few visits. For staff working for Qantas they are paid to be there, it is not a holiday. In my work I am in the same situation, I get to go to places I wouldn't choose to go to as a holiday, but I go because it is my job. Oddly though most places I have had a negative view of before going it generally changes after I have actually visited.

excellent post ajw with some very good points made.

I agree with you completely! Singapore is incredibly dull and certainly has some extreme laws e.g. littering and chewing gum comes to mind. I don't see how it is any different to Dubai at all.

 

[simongr]

Re: Singapore QF/BA lounge new changes

excellent post ajw with some very good points made.

I agree with you completely! Singapore is incredibly dull and certainly has some extreme laws e.g. littering and chewing gum comes to mind. I don't see how it is any different to Dubai at all.

Dubai is filled with Arabs and that is a problem seems to be the underlying sentiment.