Qantas extends status extensions until end June 2023 (previously December 2022)

[Lurking]

Qantas is starting to feel like a scam with all the benefits not working. Have called a few times and still no rollover credits, my green tier leaves never turn green when I make the purchases in different categories..

 

[RooFlyer]

The title of this thread should be corrected to say until June 2023 - those with a Frequent flyer year ending 30th June 2023 are the last to enjoy status support.

Those of us with a 31 July 2023 Frequent Flyer Year anniversary or later get nada.

Except the previous extensions.

Recall when the shoe was on the other foot - July to Decembers had an extension, but the January to Junes didn't (except, for both, previous ones). I was very surprised when they made the final Jan-June extension & roll-over - at the time, I thought at most it might have been some sort of gradation. Sad to say in my case, its wasted, as I'm still sitting on the 500 SCs they rolled over in February. But if I fly Qantas in the meantime, I'll be unappreciatively clogging up the lounges (except HBA ) & drinking their booze.

 

[Lynda2475]

Except the previous extensions.

How do the previous extensions have any bearing on the inaccurate title of this thread? The extensions/rollovers end with those on a 30 June FF year, not July as the title incorrectly implies.

I didnt say anything about deserving another extension ive already qualified WP without the roll-over, but the title of this thread may be giving some false hope. Just want to see title amended to reflect what is actually happening.

 

[justinbrett]

How do the previous extensions have any bearing on the inaccurate title of this thread? The extensions/rollovers end with those on a 30 June FF year, not July as the title incorrectly implies.

I didnt say anything about deserving another extension ive already qualified WP without the roll-over, but the title of this thread may be giving some false hope. Just want to see title amended to reflect what is actually happening.

I guess technically speaking the extension/rollover occurs on 01 July so the title is correct, but certainly ambiguous.

Perhaps we can just close the thread in a few weeks.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Perhaps this should be a subject for another thread but thought I'd ask: what is the likelihood Qantas provides further status support for members in the coming months? I'd place the odds fairly low given how rapidly travel has picked up but would be curious to learn why they might still do it (i.e. to get the ranks of FoTSG Golds large)

-RooFlyer88

 

[AIRwin]

what is the likelihood Qantas provides further status support for members in the coming months?

If QF is feeling particularly generous with the record profits...

 

[RichardMEL]

Perhaps this should be a subject for another thread but thought I'd ask: what is the likelihood Qantas provides further status support for members in the coming months? I'd place the odds fairly low given how rapidly travel has picked up but would be curious to learn why they might still do it (i.e. to get the ranks of FoTSG Golds large)

-RooFlyer88

0.01% (ie: never say never but.. tell him he's dreaming)

 

[oz_mark]

Perhaps this should be a subject for another thread but thought I'd ask: what is the likelihood Qantas provides further status support for members in the coming months? I'd place the odds fairly low given how rapidly travel has picked up but would be curious to learn why they might still do it (i.e. to get the ranks of FoTSG Golds large)

-RooFlyer88

I doubt it. I also think if they were going to do it, they would have already done it.

 

[jase05]

Perhaps this should be a subject for another thread but thought I'd ask: what is the likelihood Qantas provides further status support for members in the coming months? I'd place the odds fairly low given how rapidly travel has picked up but would be curious to learn why they might still do it (i.e. to get the ranks of FoTSG Golds large)

-RooFlyer88

0.00001% IMO
There is no excuse for people not to reach or maintain travel now and QF are doing more than fine

 

[PineappleSkip]

what is the likelihood Qantas provides further status support for members in the coming months? I'd place the odds fairly low given how rapidly travel has picked up but would be curious to learn why they might still do it

Well, they might do it because AJ might suddenly, in his last days, flip and favour the suckers in seats over the shareholders. I’d reckon on at least two chances of that!

 

[Hampton Mike]

The only possible justification to extend beyond June 30 would be that it’s such a dramatic drop from full support to zero support. So, from that perspective, a graded reduction would make sense.

But I think the reality is that the graded reduction should have occurred January to June this year, and it was probably a mistake to have been so generous again with the last extension. If they’ve come to that conclusion, why perpetuate the error by following it with another?

Unfortunate for me as my year finishes Nov 30, but I have made my arrangements on the basis that it would not be extended again.

 

[mviy]

I think the only reason for further blanket extensions at this point would be if we highly unexpectedly go back into extended border closures and/or lockdowns.

 

[dairyfloss]

I think the only reason for further blanket extensions at this point would be if we highly unexpectedly go back into extended border closures and/or lockdowns.

A GFC 2.0 meltdown and impact to demand is far more likely than that…

QF & QFF will only do what’s right by them and their shareholders. They are still flying rather full planes at very high prices, and there’s plenty more of that to come for a while.

A big shiny DSC offer in late March, whilst in the thick of ongoing demand was effectively QFF extending the olive branch for those who couldn’t make or retain status organically in 2023-24.

The free rides and concession passes are over. Time to pay your way again, folks!

Cheers,
Matt.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

A GFC 2.0 meltdown and impact to demand is far more likely than that…

My (limited) understanding of the GFC was it had very little impact on the Australian economy at the time as you were insulated from much of the mess. Whether this housing bubble bursts and under what circumstances remain to be seen. If the RBA jacks interest rates up to 10% then yeah this bubble will burst, but I get the feeling that the Governor of the bank doesn't have the gut to do that to bring inflation under control.

QF & QFF will only do what’s right by them and their shareholders. They are still flying rather full planes at very high prices, and there’s plenty more of that to come for a while.

Correct, if I was QF I would be maximizing as much profit as I can right now to make up for the subpar performance during the COVID times. What will be real interesting though is what Qantas does when the Australian economy enters a recession with all of this capacity coming online (i.e. QF announcing new 787s arriving every week). Eventually demand will dry up and they don't want to have a repeat of COVID putting everyone on furlough/early retirement only to pay them much more to come back later. Perhaps we'll see another DSC or even TSC when this occur?

A big shiny DSC offer in late March, whilst in the thick of ongoing demand was effectively QFF extending the olive branch for those who couldn’t make or retain status organically in 2023-24.

Unsure if that's an olive branch or merely extending something that has now become a tradition in QFF circles. I suspect many of us on the forums and certainly corporate travellers who want to re/attain status plan their bookings accordingly.

The free rides and concession passes are over. Time to pay your way again, folks!

No one is saying (I think) there will be free rides now. What I think people are wondering is whether QF will do anything to lighten the load a little for those who are taking longer to recover their travel plans. To give you an example of where I saw this, United unexpectedly extended my Premier Gold status (earned in 2019) by another year this year, despite Australia being open to international travel for more than a year. Now I get that international travel with United is more challenging than domestic travel on a regional airline like Qantas, but it does show that some airlines are extending that olive branch further than anticipated.

-RooFlyer88

 

[Lynda2475]

If the RBA jacks interest rates up to 10% then yeah this bubble will burst, but I get the feeling that the Governor of the bank doesn't have the gut to do that to bring inflation under control.

O/T but 10% interest wont cause a mass housing collapse, 10% was normal rate through most of the 20th century, vs high rates of 17-18% in the early 90s. What it will do is put stress on those who borrowed beyond their means, without sufficient deposit. If you can't afford a loan at 10% you cant afford a loan - that is what we were taught in high school economics, along with never borrow more than 80% for owner occupier.

For every person moaning about home loan interest rate increase there are two who are thankful their hard earned savings are finally earning a return after 15 years of basically no earnings on deposits.

Back on topic - we wont see further status support (in fact Jan-Jun FF anniversaries shouldn't have got the current extension, since borders were open for a full 12 months before that FF year); QF is having no problem filling planes, so why give something away?

I do expect to still see at least one annual DSC promo as this was a thing well before Covid and helps with forward bookings for the peak Northern Hemisphere Summer when Aussies are looking to escape winter - of course for the leisure market not so much for business.

 

[justinbrett]

0.01% (ie: never say never but.. tell him he's dreaming)

I'm going 0%. I'd rate the chances of them increasing status requirements higher than any further status support; QF has a glut of elites and now it's costing them with all of the crowded lounges.

My (limited) understanding of the GFC was it had very little impact on the Australian economy at the time

No that's not true, the government got us new flat screen TVs!

 

[Lynda2475]

No that's not true, the government got some of us new flat screen TVs!

Fixed that for you. I got nada from the govt during the GFC, had to buy my own TV from post tax $

GFC was limited here because we weren't exposed to sub-prime mortgages because we had/have banking regulation they didn't have in the USA.

 

[QF WP]

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Okay, that's enough Off Topic chat please, lest the delete button starts getting used (or even worse...)
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[mrsterryn]

I am just hoping that those who did utilise the Qantas extension (not their own merit ) do still only do the drop down one level.
Eg WP to gold

 

[Flyfrequently]

The amount matches a short red-edeal segment; perhaps another DSC value?

Checked our accounts, we both had 70 SC rollover, both had 25 DSC but my tally for y22-23 is 145.
Will see what I get come 1 July, then try and nut out the formula @dairyfloss !