Qantas FF announcement 20 June - "biggest overhaul" in program history

[QF WP]

QF can't win on here.

It's obvious that the changes were to benefits the millions of everyday Australians with Bronze and Silver status. Judging by the news articles on News Corp and Fairfax they're mostly positive and its their leading headline.

You're right - we are the frequent flyer at the pointy end of the program and they are catering to the general population who barely travel. They are also catering to those point addicts (but generally with no status).

 

[VeniVidiVici]

I assume as a high points earner and a forever-bronze, I'll still be well down the waiting list for international business redemptions; unless there's something substantial in the new "points club"?

I'm with you. Would like more details on the Points Club.

 

[ajd]

Overall seems like a fairly balanced set of changes TBH. Points increases aren't great but aren't too excessive. I wonder how this Points Club thing is going to look.

Anyway, time to plan a 280k while it's still 280k I guess...

 

[SeatBackForward]

I wonder how much of the Qantas Operations centre is dedicated to monitoring FF Points?

 

[defurax]

Looks like I'll be LTP in 15-22 years...if QF is still around. I guess they calculated 20 years of P1. I know a few people at work who should hit LTP in the next 5-10 year. There are indeed a few people out there getting 5-6k SC every year with QF.

 

[samh004]

Is there something wrong with standard black and red

Green make it easier to see a positive, red a negative, black the same? Just figured it's quicker to scan a document that way, but not my table.

 

[sudoer]

QF can't win on here.

Honestly - I'm actually happy about these changes. Here's my summary.

- Changes to premium cabin awards are reasonable (still good value) and we have 3 months notice anyway
- Savings on economy cabins are good
- Saving on carrier charges are good
- No goal post moving on LTS/LTG
- No changes to Platinum SC earn/retain
- No changes to partner SC earn rates
- Public DSC promos will continue (according to AusBT)
- Will reserve judgement on Points Club but seems like a reasonable idea to keep the shareholders happy

The best part: Qantas tend to go through these change cycles every 3 or so years - so we're unlikely to see any of the above change again for a while. Long may the status run continue.

 

[QF WP]

I wonder how much of the Qantas Operations centre is dedicated to monitoring FF Points?

None, that's done by QF Loyalty. I'm sre they have a couple of Business Analysts crunching data...

 

[Dr Ralph]

I wouldn't call that a 'massive overhaul' and the reality is that it's not as bad as I might have expected.

In short it will now cost me 40,000 more points for a return trip to the US.

 

[zenyattamondatta]

I'll just say that the changes (at least as announced so far) are better than some of those proposed during the consulting process. They also fall a fair bit short of my own definition of an "overhaul".

 

[opusman]

Overall seems like a fairly balanced set of changes TBH. Points increases aren't great but aren't too excessive. I wonder how this Points Club thing is going to look.

Yes I guess the best you can say about it is it could have been worse...

 

[Jousams]

I’m just sitting here with all my KrisFlyer miles like

 

[serfty]

Conflicting info here. Does anyone have a link to a QF source confirming if the OW Classic Award is changing?

AusBT (Chris C.) has already removed that sentence from their article.

 

[jmone]

Hope it is a Typo of not listing Lounge Access for LTG:

Lifetime Membership requirements#	Status Credits	Benefits
7,000 Status CreditsΩ	Lifetime Silver status	Silver membership benefits for life include: 50% Status Bonus◊ on Qantas and Jetstar 25% Status Bonus∞ on American Airlines
14,000 Status CreditsΩ	Lifetime Gold status	Gold membership benefits for life include: 75% Status Bonus◊ on Qantas and Jetstar 75% Status Bonus∞ on American Airlines
75,000 Status CreditsΩ	Lifetime Platinum status	Platinum membership benefits for life include: Access to Qantas International First Lounges and Domestic Business Lounges 100% Status Bonus on Qantas and Jetstar.

 

[QF WP]

At least AFF isn't in meltdown. But I do remember every time there has been a set of "enhancements", traffic has exploded.

 

[RichardMEL]

Well honestly that's.... boring

I mean they hype massive overhaul and all this shyte and really to me it's tweaks around the edges... the expected rises and falls in award prices.. a bit of sky high LTP to keep punters really trying.. (but honestly if you have enough to get to 75k SC's you wouldn't want to get near a plane again probably and I know there are members here who have more)...

but "massive overhaul"? typical QF - overpromise and underdeliver

I mean at first blush it seems not too horrible and that's great and all... just expected more.

ah well.

 

[SeatBackForward]

None, that's done by QF Loyalty. I'm sre they have a couple of Business Analysts crunching data...

hmm, well the Simpsons taught us that, when it comes to NASA, all this:

Is to monitor TV ratings.

 

[Rangalad]

EnJoycement

Simpler and Fairer v2.0

 

[SeatBackForward]

Simpler and Fairer v2.0

Simplerer and Fairerer

 

[MarcB]

isn't OW award zone 6 one way 78,000 and return 156,000 in the old charts?

Not sure I follow...all Oneworld Awards are based on return miles.