Qantas Points Club Discussion

[SYD]

The only way "another QFF member" can transfer "their points" is via family transfer.

Yep, that’s how I read and it and replied accordingly.

 

[Lynda2475]

Knowing Qantas, the Points Club tally is probably calculated once daily rather than real time.

Or less often, the last 2k of ground activity still not reflecting in my PC progress meter. Guess I will have to chase up tomorrow.

 

[Flyfrequently]

@Flyfrequently - what you REALLY have to look for is when you are making the booking, the system will show your “total” points, but when you complete your booking and print out the first page (the one I pack) you MAY find it only shows the basis points.
This is when you know you are going to have to chase your extra points after the basis points have hit your account.
This seems more prevalent when Q have 6 or 9 point bonus sales. (There is a 6 point on now)
You will get that sale basis, but not your PC or PC+ bonus 25/50%.
I take screen shots during the booking process.
If my printed out receipt show a total of ALL my points, then I should be fine, but I have had so many that print out wrong, that I now take this precaution.
The printed total is what QF will send to your account.

Thanks @Bindibuys
I copy and paste all that info into an email to self and always take a printed copy with me.
But will be on the lookout, the first booking is in Feb 24 and all are at 6 points per $

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Well folks, this weekend the Roo managed to secure Qantas Points Club status in record time (with my program year starting on December 1, 2023) meaning I'll have Points Club status through November 30, 2025. For those curious how I accumulated points so rapidly, especially since I cannot apply for a credit card (given my Visa status), it's very simple: Qantas Wine. Specifically, I spent $1900 to buy 20 bottles of wine which earned me a total of 121,200 points there (pro tip: always place Qantas wine orders on the phone since in general the agents can give you a further 1,000 bonus points per $100 spent, at least from my experience) and then did another order for 12 bottles of wine for $480 (which earned 22,400 points there). Combine that with 2400 points earned on 3 flights taken during that time, another 2000 points from Woolies, another 500 points from Wellbeing and RedPlanet, couple hundred from BankWest and sure enough I qualified for Qantas Points Club.

With this qualification I do have a couple of questions:

1. The 25% bonus on bookings made through Qantas hotels, what does that apply against? Is it the 3 base points one earns? What about some hotels I've seen which award 6 points per $ spent?
2. Does the Priority Phone service in practice actually give you any priority (especially if you hold Platinum status)?
3. The benefit of earning status credits on Qantas marketed classic awards suggest that it may be possible to find classic award flights operated by another airline but which carry a Qantas flight number (and hence are eligible)? Any insight on that? If I look at Qantas' core partners of AA and British Airways they both state that classic award flights will carry the operating carrier's flight number and not QF. But would love to hear of any interesting edge cases where QF marketed, partner operated flights occur for classic award.

 

[mviy]

The only QANTAS marketed (QF flight number) classic reward flights are the QANTAS operated ones. It’s much easier to find domestic economy classic rewards than say long haul international business. A lot of Points Club members here will try to book classic rewards during a DSC promo if they can. I haven’t had Points Club yet, but hope to get it at some point.

 

[Bindibuys]

I can only answer q1 - yes you will get 25% more of the "total points" for that booking.
I try to hold out until there is a 9 point sale, then make as many bookings as possible as my PC+ gives me an additional 50% so 13.5 points per $ spent on a 9 point sale.

Please note my comments up thread about making sure you get those bonus PC points.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

The only QANTAS marketed (QF flight number) classic reward flights are the QANTAS operated ones.

To be precise I think you are saying domestic flights operated by another airline for Qantas (i.e. Sun State Airlines, National Jet Systems, etc.). I am hoping that there is something bizarre out there like the current loophole of booking JetBlue flights with an AA flight number to earn QF status credits (will be sad when the NEA goes away early next year).

It’s much easier to find domestic economy classic rewards than say long haul international business. A lot of Points Club members here will try to book classic rewards during a DSC promo if they can.

As a Platinum I don't think it'll be that hard to find long haul awards calling them in, particularly if I have no preference on connection points (i.e. YVR to SYD via SFO versus YVR to SYD direct). What I will say is not all redemptions are made equal when it comes to status credit accrual. For instance, both Santiago and Vancouver require the same number of points to book a business classic award. However, Santiago will earn you just 64 status credits versus 72 for Vancouver.

I haven’t had Points Club yet, but hope to get it at some point.

Whether it's worth it remains to be seen. Supposing you can use the included vouchers there's at least $100 in value there. Whether a classic award booking will make or break it for you for status really depends on the status you'd like to attain, and how close you are to it. Whilst 72 status credits isn't a lot, it's nothing to sneeze at for someone looking to retain Silver status.

-RooFlyer88

 

[elanshin]

1. Does the Priority Phone service in practice actually give you any priority (especially if you hold Platinum status)?

Yes for FF related stuff, no you're already ahead of the queue as Plat.

1. The benefit of earning status credits on Qantas marketed classic awards suggest that it may be possible to find classic award flights operated by another airline but which carry a Qantas flight number (and hence are eligible)? Any insight on that? If I look at Qantas' core partners of AA and British Airways they both state that classic award flights will carry the operating carrier's flight number and not QF. But would love to hear of any interesting edge cases where QF marketed, partner operated flights occur for classic award.

afaik there aren't any partner CR that carry QF codes even if QF does codeshare on the route. If there are and people are getting this, it would be niche and also one of those unspoken things I imagine.

 

[SYD]

The only QANTAS marketed (QF flight number) classic reward flights are the QANTAS operated ones. It’s much easier to find domestic economy classic rewards than say long haul international business. A lot of Points Club members here will try to book classic rewards during a DSC promo if they can. I haven’t had Points Club yet, but hope to get it at some point.

A fare bit of Dom J around. I’ve had quite a few international J CR with decent earn.

 

[RichardMEL]

To be precise I think you are saying domestic flights operated by another airline for Qantas (i.e. Sun State Airlines, National Jet Systems, etc.). I am hoping that there is something bizarre out there like the current loophole of booking JetBlue flights with an AA flight number to earn QF status credits (will be sad when the NEA goes away early next year).

No, that is not what was being said.

codeshare flights are for revenue booked flights. CR's book onto the operating carrier's code, NOT the QF codeshare, so you can't book a QF8xx_ EK operated flight, or some other codeshare like that as a CR to get SC. In practice for PC/PCP credit, it will be QF operated flights, since you cannot book any codeshares as CR's.

 

[MooTime]

As a Platinum I don't think it'll be that hard to find long haul awards calling them in, particularly if I have no preference on connection points (i.e. YVR to SYD via SFO versus YVR to SYD direct). What I will say is not all redemptions are made equal when it comes to status credit accrual. For instance, both Santiago and Vancouver require the same number of points to book a business classic award. However, Santiago will earn you just 64 status credits versus 72 for Vancouver.

You mean as a World Platinum (WP).

I wouldn't be pumped myself up too much, it's only points club regular. You only received it by buying a truck load of vino, anybody can attain this via the stocking the cellar route.

 

[RichardMEL]

As a Platinum I don't think it'll be that hard to find long haul awards calling them in, particularly if I have no preference on connection points (i.e. YVR to SYD via SFO versus YVR to SYD direct).

You do understand that even seat release requests are only for QF operated sectors? ie if there's nothing available for redemption on YVR-SFO, then even if they open SFO-SYD, you'd still need to find your way to SFO. QF can't request release from other carriers in this context.

So while in practice you may be able to get an approval for YVR/SFO/LAX/DFW-SYD you may need to find your own way to those connection points (of course, domestic connections, or even transborder, are easier to find on partners, or even something like SEA-SFO on AS), or just buy revenue, but then be aware of separate tix issues.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

You do understand that even seat release requests are only for QF operated sectors? ie if there's nothing available for redemption on YVR-SFO, then even if they open SFO-SYD, you'd still need to find your way to SFO. QF can't request release from other carriers in this context.

That is true. QF can only unlock seats for their own operated flights. But that also means that if you can already find open partner availability for the connecting flight than all should be good. And looking at YVR > SFO in particular, there are quite a few options to choose from with both AA and AS serving both markets

 

[Lynda2475]

Or less often, the last 2k of ground activity still not reflecting in my PC progress meter. Guess I will have to chase up tomorrow.

So I've had a few days of no points earn, perfect time I thought to work out why PC progress is not counting all my ground points. Difference is 1,563 but I cannot for the life of me find any combination of activities that sum to this amount, it is just weird.

Hard to raise a support ticket when you cant point to the missing activity. The points from flying match exactly, it is the ground ones that do not; and I've checked I haven't had any milestones points (I always take SCs anyway).

I just hope I do not miss requalifying by 1563 points.

 

[Mr H]

I just hope I do not miss requalifying by 1563 points.

If it is that important to you then it would be no effort to manufacture activity to earn those points. Gift cards at Woolworths when they are on promotion, para ejemplo.

 

[Lynda2475]

Sure I can easily earn more points (would never buy gift cards however, I've had a useless Westfield gift card stuck in my wallet for years, way too many restrictions and you dont get the purchase protections you do on credit card) but I want to understand which activity is not being recognized correctly.

There is some off IT stuff going on, because in yesterdays platinum new letter the recap of my activity for the last 12 months (whether you look at calendar year or FF year) is way way off.

 

[blacksultan]

Sure I can easily earn more points (would never buy gift cards however, I've had a useless Westfield gift card stuck in my wallet for years, way too many restrictions and you dont get the purchase protections you do on credit card) but I want to understand which activity is not being recognized correctly.

There is some off IT stuff going on, because in yesterdays platinum new letter the recap of my activity for the last 12 months (whether you look at calendar year or FF year) is way way off.

You do know Westfield gift cards can be used anywhere eftpos is accepted ?

 

[Lynda2475]

You do know Westfield gift cards can be used anywhere eftpos is accepted ?

Only the newer ones (that are actually a visa gift card). The one I have was given in late 2020 and can only be used at Westfields in person not even online. The one place I go to at my local Westfields very rarely is the cinema and they have a huge sign-up stating they do not accept gift cards (and I tried to use it anyway and was declined).

Understand it is popular to buy giftcards but for me they are useless.

 

[blacksultan]

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Only the newer ones (that are actually a visa gift card). The one I have was given in late 2020 and can only be used at Westfields in person not even online. The one place I go to at my local Westfields very rarely is the cinema and they have a huge sign-up stating they do not accept gift cards (and I tried to use it anyway and was declined).

Understand it is popular to buy giftcards but for me they are useless.

no . You should be able to use the ones for 2020 as well . I was using them elsewhere in 2015 or so !

 

[Lynda2475]

no . You should be able to use the ones for 2020 as well . I was using them elsewhere in 2015 or so !

Well has been rejected everywhere i have tried to use it, so absolutely useless IME. I followed up with Westfields via email and they confirmed the type I have cant be used online as it uses eftpos (whereas the newer cards use Visa) and is limited to stores that choose to particpate (but no way to get a list of said stores).

I do all my shopping except food online, the cinema doesnt accept them. YMMV but I view it as a worthless piece of plastic and would never purposely buy one. This one was gifted for participating in some research.