Qantas Project Sunrise goes ahead, 12 new A350-1000s ordered

[Quickstatus]

particularly if you don't have growth in productivity or labour force.

Or negative gearing

 

[justinbrett]

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/germanys-lufthansa-suspends-flights-tehran-amid-middle-east-crisis-2024-04-10/

Looks like aircraft starting to avoid middle east airspace. QF1/9 taking a northerly routing avoiding the gulf, BA doing the same.

You've taken my comments completely out of context.

I was talking about overflight - LH is cancelling flights operating to IKE - not over it. There's a massive difference in risk there.

BA might be joining QF on a northerly route for SIN/LHR, but it's flying over Iraq right now on BA199 (LHR-BOM).

 

[Doctore1003]

Still on track for first delivery in mid-2026 according to Hudson.

Qantas says 22-hour non-stop flights to Europe, US still on track

Qantas boss Vanessa Hudson says global manufacturing delays won’t derail the airline’s plan to launch direct flights to London and New York in 2026.

www.theage.com.au

 

[kpc]

Still on track for first delivery in mid-2026 according to Hudson.

Qantas says 22-hour non-stop flights to Europe, US still on track

Qantas boss Vanessa Hudson says global manufacturing delays won’t derail the airline’s plan to launch direct flights to London and New York in 2026.

www.theage.com.au

Bet you there will be a delay mentioned at some point .....

 

[jb747]

I'd love to see the crew fatigue risk assessment on this, especially in relation to poor arrival weather.

 

[Berlin]

Bet you there will be a delay mentioned at some point .....

There’s always delays with these things but good to see that Qantas is still intent to go ahead with this. And at least they are Airbus so maybe not quite as lengthy delays than had they selected the 777X

 

[elanshin]

I've read that EASA has approved the centre fuel tank design now which was one of the reasons for the delay.

 

[RSVKanga]

Qantas have given more detail on how they will achieve LHR<>SYD nonstop in the wake of Russian airspace issues.

They have said that QF1 SYD-LHR will likely go the ‘other way around’ with the A350 taking off from Sydney heading towards Alaska, far north Canada and the North Pole before heading down south across the Atlantic to London. QF2 LHR-SYD would fly the traditional route over Europe, the Middle East and India.

https://www.airlineratings.com/feat...london-nonstop-could-fly-over-the-north-pole/

PER-ATH also hinted as next European route to be launched when A380s free up more 787s next year.

 

[jb747]

Qantas have given more detail on how they will achieve LHR<>SYD nonstop in the wake of Russian airspace issues.

Roughly another 1,000 miles over the actual great circle distance. Seems like a big (i.e. huge) leap.

PER-ATH also hinted as next European route to be launched when A380s free up more 787s next year.

Funny how it gets promoted as non stop, when, unless you happen to live in Perth, it's little different to flying with any number of other airlines, many of which have more desirable stopovers.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Agreed, but I'd wager a seasonal PER-ATH would sustain itself without any connecting traffic.

 

[Cognac]

Roughly another 1,000 miles over the actual great circle distance. Seems like a big (i.e. huge) leap.

Funny how it gets promoted as non stop, when, unless you happen to live in Perth, it's little different to flying with any number of other airlines, many of which have more desirable stopovers.

I mean, Sydney to London non-stop isn't non-stop for anyone not living in Sydney either...

 

[justinbrett]

I mean, Sydney to London non-stop isn't non-stop for anyone not living in Sydney either...

It's still non-stop for SYD-LHR . It's not like they make you parachute overhead SIN if you can't prove Sydney residency.

 

[Cognac]

It's still non-stop for SYD-LHR . It's not like they make you parachute overhead SIN if you can't prove Sydney residency.

And Perth to Athens would be non-stop for PER-ATH. What's your point?

 

[Saab34]

Agreed, but I'd wager a seasonal PER-ATH would sustain itself without any connecting traffic.

Greece seems very popular at the moment. Many of my colleagues have been in recent months, I’ve never been, certainly on my list also during the warmer months.

I’d probably use a Perth connector for ATH as the ME3 are mainly narrow body into Athens or 777 with EK. Turkish use a 777 for the short hop. Singapore don’t even fly to Athens anymore, it’s Scoot, my Travel Agent did tell me it’s very popular with Australians however.

For a premium product all the way to ATH I’d probably go EK, Turkish once its direct starts or the QF direct. Qatar and Etihad often downgrade and change flights last minute into some of these smaller euro ports, not worth the risk ending up a narrowbody.

 

[justinbrett]

And Perth to Athens would be non-stop for PER-ATH. What's your point?

That your city of residence doesn’t change the number of stops on a flight.

 

[elanshin]

Would make for a new marketing slide.

Only airline in the world to fly through both the Artic and Antarctic areas.

 

[Cognac]

That your city of residence doesn’t change the number of stops on a flight.

Then we are agreed. I was responding to jb747's post:

Funny how it gets promoted as non stop, when, unless you happen to live in Perth, it's little different to flying with any number of other airlines, many of which have more desirable stopovers.

 

[justinbrett]

Then we are agreed. I was responding to jb747's post:

Yes but there’s plenty of people who will connect in SYD that don’t already have a one stop option. Eg where I live - OOL. Or CBR. Or really at town / city that’s not a major airport.

It doesn’t take away from the fact that SYD-LHR is non stop and that brings options not just to pax ex SYD.

 

[aus_flyer]

Just a thought... could the 787 do MEL-ATH non stop? Great circle has it about 250 miles longer than PER-LHR. But... PER-LHR has lots of twists and turns, whereas MEL-ATH looks like it could be done in a fairly efficient straight(ish) line.

 

[Jacques Vert]

Just a thought... could the 787 do MEL-ATH non stop? Great circle has it about 250 miles longer than PER-LHR. But... PER-LHR has lots of twists and turns, whereas MEL-ATH looks like it could be done in a fairly efficient straight(ish) line.

Given the number of people in MEL with Greek heritage, I've often wondered why QF haven't looked at this option previously; should definitely be on the list for the A350.