Qantas SYD&MEL to SIN $510 ret ($410 through .br site)

[anat0l]

I think you can actually have a look for such fares using ITA. Just change the sales city to, e.g. Sao Paolo, Brazil (and change the currency to AUD if you want, otherwise the result will be in BRL).

For some reason, though, an option you get through ITA may not appear in Expedia, even if you choose the same dates.

Expedia BR tacks on a wee hefty booking fee it would seem. But even after that, the overall paid fare is still very cheap. I wonder if there are other Brazilian travel websites that can also try and replicate these bookings (though Expedia is nice and familiar).

 

[Mal]

If a fare is valid for sale in a country, and you buy it there... I can't see how it could cause issues later. Now if a fare that is only valid for sale in oz is being sold overseas (and vice versa), yes that could cause issues.

 

[aikman]

I think you can actually have a look for such fares using ITA. Just change the sales city to, e.g. Sao Paolo, Brazil (and change the currency to AUD if you want, otherwise the result will be in BRL).

For some reason, though, an option you get through ITA may not appear in Expedia, even if you choose the same dates.

Expedia BR tacks on a wee hefty booking fee it would seem. But even after that, the overall paid fare is still very cheap. I wonder if there are other Brazilian travel websites that can also try and replicate these bookings (though Expedia is nice and familiar).

decolar.com seems to come up with more flight combinations

 

[markis10]

Something to keep in mind is upgrade requests on domestic segments lock Expedia out of making any changes you might need to make, I had a free change with another booking as Expedia could change it but just changed one next week and had to get Qantas to do it with the usual fees and fare difference which hurt!

 

[Temporiser]

Can someone tell me what YQ means? Is there a definition page on AFF for these acronyms?

 

[Mal]

Can someone tell me what YQ means? Is there a definition page on AFF for these acronyms?

Yq is the Qantas fuel surcharge charged by qantas on flight sectors. I don't think yq is defined here, but there is an abbreviations thread.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

YQ is the tax code you see on a fare calculation used by most airlines to disguise a cost of doing business (buying fuel) as a tax. It is used to screw frequent flyers out of more money when redeeming award flights and to reduce commissions paid to agents.

 

[oz_mark]

YQ is the tax code you see on a fare calculation used by most airlines to disguise a cost of doing business (buying fuel) as a tax.

YQ (and YR) are carrier imposed fees. They are not taxes, and most carriers are careful these days not to call them taxes.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

YQ (and YR) are carrier imposed fees. They are not taxes, and most carriers are careful these days not to call them taxes.

hahahah are you joking?

 

[GalaxyNexus]

According to ITA Matrix, it should include all taxes, except for YQ

Fare construction (can be useful to travel agents)
SYD QF SIN 114.25NLSPS QF SYD 114.25NLSPS NUC 228.50 END ROE 0.954044 XT 113.52AU 107.90WY 12.70OO 9.68OP 31.59SG

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[TR]
[TD]Fare 1: Carrier QF NLSPS SYD to SIN (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code N
Covers SYD-SIN (Economy)[/TD]
[TD="class: farePrice, align: right"]224.98[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fare 2: Carrier QF NLSPS SIN to SYD (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code N
Covers SIN-SYD (Economy)[/TD]
[TD="class: farePrice, align: right"]224.98[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Australian Int'l Passenger Service Charge (WY)[/TD]
[TD="class: farePrice, align: right"]53.95[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Australian Passenger Movement Charge (AU)[/TD]
[TD="class: farePrice, align: right"]113.52[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge (OO)[/TD]
[TD="class: farePrice, align: right"]12.70[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Singapore Aviation Levy (OP)[/TD]
[TD="class: farePrice, align: right"]9.68[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Singapore Passenger Service Charge (SG)[/TD]
[TD="class: farePrice, align: right"]31.59[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Australian Int'l Passenger Service Charge (WY)[/TD]
[TD="class: farePrice, align: right"]53.95[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="class: fareSubTotalRule"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Subtotal per passenger[/TD]
[TD="class: farePrice, align: right"]725.36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Number of passengers[/TD]
[TD="class: farePrice, align: right"]x1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="class: fareTotalRule"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: fareTotal"]
[TD="class: totalLabel"]TOTAL AIRFARE & TAXES[/TD]
[TD="class: farePrice, align: right"]725.36[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[oz_mark]

hahahah are you joking?

No, since it was ruled to be deceptive conduct, the carriers have been much more careful with their wording.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

No, since it was ruled to be deceptive conduct, the carriers have been much more careful with their wording.

It's essentially treated as a tax in reservations systems. YQ is the code used for this 'fee' but those codes are referred to as 'tax codes' . Either way my post is completely correct in that the airlines absolutely use this to disguise a fee of doing business as a 'tax' or a 'fee' or 'surcharge' , whatever you want to say. but go to expedia and try booking a qantas flight you will see this YQ is just a part of the 'fees and taxes' and not part of the airfare which is definitely where it should be. It is used to gouge travelers on FF tickets and to reduce agent commissions.

 

[oz_mark]

It's essentially treated as a tax in reservations systems. YQ is the code used for this 'fee' but those codes are referred to as 'tax codes' . Either way my post is completely correct in that the airlines absolutely use this to disguise a fee of doing business as a 'tax' or a 'fee' or 'surcharge' , whatever you want to say. but go to expedia and try booking a qantas flight you will see this YQ is just a part of the 'fees and taxes' and not part of the airfare which is definitely where it should be. It is used to gouge travelers on FF tickets and to reduce agent commissions.

I said the carriers are careful with their terminology. Agents such as Expedia are not so careful. Book it on the Qantas site and the words 'carrier charge' are there.

It's all been through the courts, and commissions are payable on the surcharges.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

I said the carriers are careful with their terminology. Agents such as Expedia are not so careful. Book it on the Qantas site and the words 'carrier charge' are there.

It's all been through the courts, and commissions are payable on the surcharges.

yes for ex-Australia itineraries but the commission on the taxes is often a lower % than the airfare. For some itineraries like in Europe there is still no commission on the surcharges.

You sound like you work for an airline the way you defend it. It should be incorporated into the price of a ticket like the yanks and some middle eastern airlines do.

 

[oz_mark]

You sound like you work for an airline the way you defend it. It should be incorporated into the price of a ticket like the yanks and some middle eastern airlines do.

I agree that it should be included in the fare. I do not agree that the airlines call it a 'tax'.

Neither of which has anything to do with my employment, which is not with an airline.

 

[dodgeyhack]

Just thought I'd mention that the transaction description on the CC statement comes up as 'QANTAS A IRWAYS SAO PAULO BRA'.
So don't suppose I'll get 2 points per dollar on that one (Especially considering it's hard enough to get 2 points per dollar for QANTAS MASCOT purchases!).

 

[JohnK]

Someone want to share some experience? Qantas legally can't demand more payment at the airport, or invalidate the tickets, can't they?

I would not think so and if there was something wrong then they would need to take it up with the travel agent issuing the tickets.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Just thought I'd mention that the transaction description on the CC statement comes up as 'QANTAS A IRWAYS SAO PAULO BRA'.
So don't suppose I'll get 2 points per dollar on that one (Especially considering it's hard enough to get 2 points per dollar for QANTAS MASCOT purchases!).

Qantas Mascot is no longer. Its Qantas Air Australia. For reference this sao Paulo transaction gave me zero bonus points on nab premium card. However a Qantas Tokyo transaction in January did give bonus points.

 

[Finale]

Asia sale is on again other than the usual deals,

BNE - SIN
SYD - SIN via BNE

Premium economy is around $1200 on .br sites.

 

[aloha]

Asia sale is on again other than the usual deals,

BNE - SIN
SYD - SIN via BNE

Premium economy is around $1200 on .br sites.

The prices weren't updated at midday, they must have just kicked in.

Economy is around $400.