Qantas SYD&MEL to SIN $510 ret ($410 through .br site)

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Its not the fare conditions I'd worry about, but if I'd have to talk/deal with the local office (I.e. Credit card must be sighted by local office, etc). I'm talking generally of course, not in relation to this specific fare - I'd factor this risk in to the price discount I'd find acceptable (something that would vary from person to person) and as I mentioned it is really just J or F fares that'd get me interested (but that's just me).

I had such a wrinkle when I booked a flight out of Kuwait, but thankfully managed to organise a work-around.

I am not sure what you are going on about, the point is the fare conditions re change and cancel fees are the same if you book with QF on the website in au or with expedia in BR and get ticketed by QF in Brazil, we are not talking about ex BKK or PRc fares here but Australia to Asia fare sales!
 
I've been umming & erring on the br. website also for a fair while, but decided to take the plunge.

So far so good, in terms of the Correct payment being processed on my CC & as i added my QFF number during the booking process the Flight details appear on "My bookings" when i log onto QFF website.

Pretty confident all is in order.

Just note that the Br. website only accepts Visa & Mastercard & not Amex unfortunately.

I say Go for it...... chaeper than flying MEL > BME & a lot further = More FF points.


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what browser did you use? ( eg chrome with auto translate? ) looking at taking the plunge as well but keep hearing alot about the payment not going through...
 
I am not sure what you are going on about, the point is the fare conditions re change and cancel fees are the same if you book with QF on the website in au or with expedia in BR and get ticketed by QF in Brazil, we are not talking about ex BKK or PRc fares here but Australia to Asia fare sales!

I think both JohnK and Kieran2274 were really referring to the challenges in changing these fares through .br. If you ticket through QF it is much easier and real time to make changes, and changes can be done online - or over the phone with an operator who speaks English very well (albeit for a fee). If you ticket through .br you face language difficulties and in my experience, the process of changing requires a great deal of patience and you really need to do homework on new fares available. It is far from simple to do so.

Also, it seems (anecdotally) once you get away from the lowest ("special") fares, the fares available seem to go through the roof, so you might see an increase from $700 to $1000 in wanting to make the change on QF website, but on. br you might see an increase from $500 to $1300 for same change. I would certainly advise against these fares if there is a high probability you may need to change, unless you really know what you are doing, have patience and flexibility. My comments are all from experience.
 
I think both JohnK and Kieran2274 were really referring to the challenges in changing these fares through .br. If you ticket through QF it is much easier and real time to make changes, and changes can be done online - or over the phone with an operator who speaks English very well (albeit for a fee). If you ticket through .br you face language difficulties and in my experience, the process of changing requires a great deal of patience and you really need to do homework on new fares available. It is far from simple to do so.

I think it's easier to understand if you have been there, done that dajop, so thanks for the consideration/understanding. Some fares booked via overseas sites (whether under the Qantas brand or other airlines) put local requirements on bookings made through that site. Can catch the unawares out, so always worth checking no such local conditions apply.
 
I think both JohnK and Kieran2274 were really referring to the challenges in changing these fares through .br. If you ticket through QF it is much easier and real time to make changes, and changes can be done online - or over the phone with an operator who speaks English very well (albeit for a fee). If you ticket through .br you face language difficulties and in my experience, the process of changing requires a great deal of patience and you really need to do homework on new fares available. It is far from simple to do so.

These are sale fares so changes are always going to be problematic, when your paying $400 for a fare vs $600 you have to factor in the value of changing, in many cases with QF doing it online is not easy or possible anyway, it's hard to see the downside given the outlay, and given we are talking about fuel surcharges not really worth talking about in J or F context.
 
These are sale fares so changes are always going to be problematic, when your paying $400 for a fare vs $600 you have to factor in the value of changing, in many cases with QF doing it online is not easy or possible anyway, it's hard to see the downside given the outlay, and given we are talking about fuel surcharges not really worth talking about in J or F context.

I think you're misunderstanding the point. This is not about the cost of changing, it's about the actual process of changing and some of the difficulties associated with that. This applies to both voluntary and involuntary changes (i.e. schedule changes).

The plain fact is, talking to QF agents is far easier than talking to Expedia Brazil. Yes, you can effect a change by calling Qantas (and there is the "upgrade trick"), but sometimes they will still flick you back to Expedia Brazil because .br issued the e-ticket (and they still need to).


I'll give you my experience today - pretty much dodged a bullet.

Dad is travelling BNE-SYD-MNL tomorrow (has been discussed in thread before). Originally a different date for outbound and MNL-BNE non-stop for the inbound. The inbound changed to via SYD so one involuntary change, then SYD-MNL on the outbound was cancelled on the original departure date so another involuntary change (the latter not so preferable). Long and short, I called QF (as some said to do here) and a helpful agent modified the booking and sent through a change order so that Expedia Brazil would pick this up so they could re-issue the e-ticket (Qantas, not being the agent on this booking, could not - or rather, would not want to, for the purposes of not messing with commissions - do this).

Called Expedia Brazil a few times and each time it was pretty hard to get them to, in essence, re-issue the e-ticket. The last time I contacted them I thought it was all honky-dory. They confirmed the final flights on the booking and started processing the e-ticket. They mentioned something like having trouble re-pricing the ticket with Qantas, but having not been contacted by them again I thought it was OK. Checked my booking with CMT, MMB and a few others; seemed fine.

Come today and T-24, we tried OLCI - no OLCI on QF MMB; in fact, the Select Seats button was still there. That's not right.

Called Qantas Gold to discuss my Dad's booking, and they found out that the e-ticket had not been re-issued after all! Turns out there was a bit of tete-a-tete between Expedia Brazil and Qantas over the re-issue (not a lot of detail shared by the CSA, but from the impressions of the discussion that's the gist I got). The helpful agent and her supervisor decided there and then to issue a new e-ticket under the same PNR so my Dad could continue flying tomorrow.

Needless to say, that was a close call; I wouldn't see the light of day tomorrow if my Dad flipped finding out that he wasn't travelling as planned.


Anyway, yes - you could argue that that's the fault of agents, or myself, or what not. But I'm just saying, there is that inherent increased difficulty in potentially having to deal with Expedia Brazil related to changes or irregularities in bookings before the commencement of travel. Basically a similar tack to booking with any other travel agent.

Yes, if absolutely nothing goes wrong and no changes are made to tickets, then everything is pretty much the same, except with Expedia Brazil you have a much cheaper Y ticket. In at least 80% of times, this is certainly the case. Personally, I can roll with those punches for the remaining 20% of the time in order to save a few hundred dollars. Some won't want to, especially if they are not seasoned travellers themselves, or don't have the support of someone who is so seasoned.
 
I think you're misunderstanding the point. This is not about the cost of changing, it's about the actual process of changing and some of the difficulties associated with that. This applies to both voluntary and involuntary changes (i.e. schedule changes).

The plain fact is, talking to QF agents is far easier than talking to Expedia Brazil. Yes, you can effect a change by calling Qantas (and there is the "upgrade trick"), but sometimes they will still flick you back to Expedia Brazil because .br issued the e-ticket (and they still need to).

Point is the cost of those fare changes being easy is 50% more of the fare your paying! That's two trips and you can throw away the third and still be in front compared to QF, at $400 a trip it's not much of a risk ;). Having booked 8 last year, threw away one, I did not miss much at all, MNL changes are somewhat OT given the thread is titled about SIN ;).
 
Point is the cost of those fare changes being easy is 50% more of the fare your paying! That's two trips and you can throw away the third and still be in front compared to QF, at $400 a trip it's not much of a risk ;). Having booked 8 last year, threw away one, I did not miss much at al. ...
It is indeed the risk you take. Best to treat as non changeable and non refundable and simply go from there.


... MNL changes are somewhat OT given the thread is titled about SIN ;).
Thats a bit of a smoke screen given the context. The post was regarding issues are likely to rear their head if having the misfortune to need to change a .br fare. This is the case for .br fares - whether to/from MNL or SIN (or any other route).
 
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what browser did you use? ( eg chrome with auto translate? ) looking at taking the plunge as well but keep hearing alot about the payment not going through...

Yes Google Crome with auto translate is the way to go! In terms of payment failing, not too sure this would happen with any CC in good standing, but with any online transaction they can occasionally fail.

FYI I actually used the Qantas cash pp MasterCard ( earns 1 point per $1 AUD spent on overseas transactions) , would not normally use this card, but was the best points earn in this case where AMEX was not able to be used.

Transaction worked perfectly first go & processed within 30 seconds.

I did have reservations using a Pre Paid CC for this transaction I must admit, but it worked Fine.

On the CC statement the transaction actually shows as Qantas São Paulo Brazil, which is interesting as I would have thought it would have been expedia Brazil.

For me , this is a road test of the whole br. Booking process with a little bit of sight seeing in KUL/SIN on the cards also.

Yes, the flight times are in ' unsocial-able hours' , although they work for some including myself .

As many people have put it almost 16000 QF FF points for a WP, that's a pretty good return on investment I might add, that makes the trip almost as good as a ' Points Run ' if that terminology exists here on the AFF forum.
 
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It is indeed the risk you take. Best to treat as non changeable and non refundable and simply go from there.

Which is what I normally do even for qantas.com bookings, because voluntary changes don't come cheap any how. However....


Thats a bit of a smoke screen given the context. The post was regarding issues are likely to rear their head if having the misfortune to need to change a .br fare. This is the case for .br fares - whether to/from MNL or SIN (or any other route).

...the changes in this case were involuntary. Whilst Qantas can help very much with changing the booking quite flexibly due to involuntary changes, they were much more resistant to re-issue the e-ticket until the last minute.

If my Dad wanted to change the fare voluntarily, I'd know straight up that this would be an uphill battle. Throwing away a fare which you can't seem to solve is not ideal all the time - booking another fare to replace the messed up one may not be possible at the original price point, let alone availability.

Not saying these are a typical cases. Another involuntary could be solved a whole lot quicker, as it may happen. I wouldn't treat my experience as given as typical by any means - rather an isolated incident. Certainly not going to stop me from booking more of these fares when I may need to (though for bookings of others, I'll likely put my contact down so no one except me will need to speak to Brazil!). The risk is low enough that I'm happy enough to both participate as well as recommended this to others (of course, I lay down the risk 411 to them, too).

Incidentally, QF flights to SIN would likely very rarely experience any involuntary changes due to cancellation, retiming etc.. Probably the worst that would happen is equipment change.
 
Not really, the fare conditions are the same be it booking with QF or BR, for $400 for a weekend in Asia with $100-$150 worth of points it's not much of a decision.
I was not referring to a weekend away.

This isnt about throw away ticketing. The booking would be for my normal trips to Thailand via SIN. I would not want to go though what dajop or Anat0l have gone through. But I am getting off-topic.
 
I had a very pleasant experience changing a flight today that was booked through .br. I'm booked next week to fly BKK-HKG-SYD and I wanted to change the departure time from BKK (flying CX but on a QF ticket). I'm currently in BKK so rang QF in BKK and within 30 secs my flight was changed for free straight through the QF agent!! I was shocked.

Not sure if it's because CX have said they will waive any change fees at the moment for BKK flights but was shocked QF changed it for free. ( was L class flight)
 
Anyone know if Expedia Brazil includes QF flights from SYD - MNL as part of the cheap fares on offer?
 
Anyone know if Expedia Brazil includes QF flights from SYD - MNL as part of the cheap fares on offer?

I don't see why not.

I booked BNE/MNL for my father (just departed today). At the moment, looking at the prices, they aren't anything particularly special, but when an Asia Sale comes on then best to look again.
 
Anyone know if Expedia Brazil includes QF flights from SYD - MNL as part of the cheap fares on offer?
When I wondered the same thing last year I tried searching for flights and found they were cheap... Plenty of mentions of MNL if you read the rest of the thread, and countless references to the resources you can use to search for the cheapest fare (my preference is matrix by ITA software). The flights I booked were $610 return travelling in April.
 
I think it's easier to understand if you have been there, done that dajop, so thanks for the consideration/understanding. Some fares booked via overseas sites (whether under the Qantas brand or other airlines) put local requirements on bookings made through that site. Can catch the unawares out, so always worth checking no such local conditions apply.

I think you'll find that the local rules such as showing your credit card at the qf office in bkk is related to point of origin rather than where you purchased the ticket.
 
I think you'll find that the local rules such as showing your credit card at the qf office in bkk is related to point of origin rather than where you purchased the ticket.

I've got a one way booking (well, BKK-HKG-SYD) to Aust on Wednesday this week - booked months ago on .br and there was no requirement for me to present my credit card to the QF office in BKK - so I am assuming that by booking on .br it bypasses that requirement to show your credit card. I guess it's because you are booking through a travel agent and not direct with QF.

more benefits of booking with .br
 
I've got a one way booking (well, BKK-HKG-SYD) to Aust on Wednesday this week - booked months ago on .br and there was no requirement for me to present my credit card to the QF office in BKK - so I am assuming that by booking on .br it bypasses that requirement to show your credit card. I guess it's because you are booking through a travel agent and not direct with QF.

more benefits of booking with .br

Qantas don't fly BKK HKG, so it's unlikely to be ticketed by the QF BKK agent.
 
Qantas don't fly BKK HKG, so it's unlikely to be ticketed by the QF BKK agent.

It was ticketed by QF - but flying CX to HKG and then QF to SYD. I originally tried to book BKK-SYD and it gave me the options of going via HKG so I took that (was the cheapest option being January), but it's ticketed by QF
 
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