Qatar Airways to acquire 25% of Virgin Australia

[tmdl]

They tried 777s to Thailand didn’t last long.

They just need more 737s flights to Bali in volume.

PER twice a day, MEL 3 Daily, SYD/BNE 10-14 weekly.

I would like a flat lie option but maybe in the years to come or with QR's help?

 

[Saab34]

QF A330s MEL-DPS would be the only real thing that would happen in that space.

 

[tmdl]

QF A330s MEL-DPS would be the only real thing that would happen in that space.

or GA, It seams that this route is dominated by LCC which make me think, have airlines and in particular VA not thought why don't we put a bigger plane onto this route, I thought they would always have people wanting to go to Bali?

According to ABS - Indonesia is our top destination in 2023

Indonesia overtakes New Zealand as top destination for Australian travellers

www.abs.gov.au

 

[p--and--t]

or GA, It seams that this route is dominated by LCC which make me think, have airlines and in particular VA not thought why don't we put a bigger plane onto this route, I thought they would always have people wanting to go to Bali?

According to ABS - Indonesia is our top destination in 2023

Indonesia overtakes New Zealand as top destination for Australian travellers

www.abs.gov.au

Maybe they have market research on the demographic and worked out LCC was the solution for the target customer base.

 

[HS-TQE]

The Short Lived AirAsiaX Indonesia tried widebodies on SYD/MEL-DPS thinking both routes are people movers. It didn't last long as they struggled on the Australian POS.

 

[jase05]

Maybe they have market research on the demographic and worked out LCC was the solution for the target customer base.

The majority of people that we know in Adelaide that travel to Bali go via SIN or KUL with SQ and MH. VA was the best direct option but since they stopped the best options involve a transit.
Our most recent trip we went via KUL with MH whilst some friends that met us there went to MEL and flew GA. We have done GA many times in J and I don’t mind the product

 

[p--and--t]

The majority of people that we know in Adelaide that travel to Bali go via SIN or KUL with SQ and MH. VA was the best direct option but since they stopped the best options involve a transit.
Our most recent trip we went via KUL with MH whilst some friends that met us there went to MEL and flew GA. We have done GA many times in J and I don’t mind the product

Yes but as with many things AFFers and their circle are atypical of the majority, and it seems the market success of the current offering shows that

 

[simmomelb]

So, how about that 25% acquisition from Qatar Airways?

 

[HS-TQE]

Getting back on topic, AFAP and its group of pilots does provisionally support the 25% Qatar stake on the proviso that the wet lease agreement last no more than 5 years.

A VA spokesperson has replied the intended wet lease agreement will be 5 years.

Virgin Australia says five years is the intended initial time frame for the wet-lease agreement, giving it a chance to see how well a return to international wide-body operations will serve it in the long term. In a statement, a spokesperson welcomed the union’s support.

Virgin pilots back Qatar deal despite wet-lease concerns

In its submission to the ACCC, the Australian Federation of Air Pilots (AFAP) said that the proposal – which would see Qatar take a 25 per cent stake in Virgin, as well as wet-lease its planes to the smaller carrier for flights to Doha – would create job opportunities for Australian pilots.

australianaviation.com.au

 

[justinbrett]

Getting back on topic, AFAP and its group of pilots does provisionally support the 25% Qatar stake on the proviso that the wet lease agreement last no more than 5 years.

A VA spokesperson has replied the intended wet lease agreement will be 5 years.

Virgin pilots back Qatar deal despite wet-lease concerns

In its submission to the ACCC, the Australian Federation of Air Pilots (AFAP) said that the proposal – which would see Qatar take a 25 per cent stake in Virgin, as well as wet-lease its planes to the smaller carrier for flights to Doha – would create job opportunities for Australian pilots.

australianaviation.com.au

This is old news. JH has refused to put a time limit on the wet lease because it lasts for five years and they have no intention of ending it before that. Committing to a dry lease beyond the agreement is irrelevant to this agreement.

The way the union wrote their submission is smart, in that VA should terminate the wet lease at 3 years unless a dry lease is signed and started at the end of the 5 years. But I doubt VA will go for that.