QF announce non-stop Perth-London B787 Services

[levelnine]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

Think it's clear. QF9 becomes a 789 MEL-PER-LHR r/t

the A380's cleared up by this change.... good question. I could see going on to 127/128 HKG for at least one shell. Free up a 744 to maybe operate another frequency to somewhere else.

Or they could keep MEL-DXB, though seems they will ceede that to EK.

Perhaps MEL-HKG become year round instead of seasonal.

many possibilities

(or they retire some 744's)

I think it would be foolish for QF to offer MEL pax options to Europe on QF metal only via PER or SYD. That would be a massive capacity drop from MEL (484 pax to 236 pax) and would only be of benefit to J travelers to LHR. Everyone else (Y flyers who for the most part won't want 17+ hours without a break and Y/J flyers who want one stop to anywhere else in Europe) will abandon ship to EK or other carriers. Most sensible option is for QF to continue the A380 to DXB and hand off travelers to EK there. At least then they get the revenue from the feeder flight.

 

[dajop]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

the A380's cleared up by this change.... good question.

It will be 2x A380's freed up, currently takes 5 to operate the double daily service, after change it will take 3, and give more down time at LHR.

 

[hutch]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

It will be 2x A380's freed up, currently takes 5 to operate the double daily service, after change it will take 3, and give more down time at LHR.

That assumes QF keeps current QF 1/2 schedules. Could be a wider shake up... we'll find out soon.

 

[JessicaTam]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

They'll lose a lot of MEL pax if they ditch the routing via the ME (or Asia). Very much hoping the A380 route remains, perhaps ending in a different EU city?

Frankfurt! If only just for me.

 

[JaneFlyer]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

If they ditch the standard 9/10, QF1 will spend far too long on the ground at LHR so i'd imagine a schedule change with QF2 leaving in QF10s old timeslot. FRA was not profitable for QF previously so I doubt they'd return to that market but CDG or AMS are other possibilities - even a couple of times a week. I just can't see them copping this much of a capacity drop and they'd be aware they'll lose MEL business, particularly from the economy market and J flyers who favour a more traditional kangaroo route.

 

[mviy]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

I like flying J. If J prices are higher for the route via PER and/or upgrades are harder to get I'll have to consider my options. I may go via SYD to maximise my SC and possibly save some money if the QF A380 MEL-DXB-LHR route is dropped.

 

[mviy]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

Like all the continental traffic connecting to EK, and any J pax who want to put in for an F upgrade

Had been planning to request a F upgrade in 2018/2019 on the QF A380 route from MEL to LHR. Looks like I'll be saving my points for other upgrades that are likely less profitable for QF or an award J seat.

 

[Mattg]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

If they ditch the standard 9/10, QF1 will spend far too long on the ground at LHR so i'd imagine a schedule change with QF2 leaving in QF10s old timeslot. FRA was not profitable for QF previously so I doubt they'd return to that market but CDG or AMS are other possibilities - even a couple of times a week. I just can't see them copping this much of a capacity drop and they'd be aware they'll lose MEL business, particularly from the economy market and J flyers who favour a more traditional kangaroo route.

QF2 is unlikely to run to the QF10 schedule due to the curfew in SYD.

 

[Ansett]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

Looks like first flight could indeed be ex UK according to this article.

First UK-Australia non-stop flight schedule revealed

 

[serfty]

10am LHR departure to arrive in PER noon, then MEL 7pm

7pm ex MEL, 10pm ex PER to LHR 7am.

The article suggests the aircraft would then operate QF95 to LAX but that would represent an early evening USA arrival. Not sure that has worked in the past.

 

[mviy]

7am arrival in LHR! Much prefer the QF9/10 timings. With a 7am arrival one would suspect there'd be strong demand to use an arrivals lounge.

 

[Himeno]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

Looks like first flight could indeed be ex UK according to this article.

First UK-Australia non-stop flight schedule revealed

It has "likely schedule" in the first line of the story. ie, not confirmed, but high likelihood. The times match those posted on AusBT yesterday. It is likely they either took the AusBT article and applied a UK angle (being a UK paper) or got the times from where ever AusBT did.

PER-LHR 2230-0700+1
LHR-PER 1000-1200+1
PER-MEL ???
MEL-LAX (QF95) 2140-1900
LAX-MEL (QF96) 2355-0925+2
MEL-PER 1900-2200

The 787 QF95 changes from a lunch time departure/morning arrival to evening departure/arrival in late March.

Does QF own the needed 7am arrival/10am depart LHR slots for this? They seem to be about 1-2 hours after the known morning arrival slots and about 2 hours before the known departure slots QF own. Maybe they've swapped a slot pair with BA?
Is ~30 minutes in PER enough time to turn the flight around from a transcon from MEL for the long flight to LHR?

 

[Himeno]

With a 7am arrival one would suspect there'd be strong demand to use an arrivals lounge.

QF pax have access to the T3 AA arrivals lounge.

 

[serfty]

QF pax have access to the T3 AA arrivals lounge.

Except that Qantas no longer advertise this access for F / J PAX on it's website.

This has been the case for at least 7 months.

Before a November QF2 arrival I tried to get confirmation to no avail.

Online chat was useless as all they did was point me to the Web site which had nothing.

On arrival I simply used it with no issue.

 

[AIRwin]

Except that Qantas no longer advertise this access for F / J PAX on it's website.

I'm planning a trip to LHR so this prompted me to look for the info on the AA website:
https://www.americanairlines.com.au/i18n/travel-info/clubs/arrivals-lounge.jsp#otherairlineaccess

 

[Flyerqf]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

If they ditch the standard 9/10, QF1 will spend far too long on the ground at LHR so i'd imagine a schedule change with QF2 leaving in QF10s old timeslot. FRA was not profitable for QF previously so I doubt they'd return to that market but CDG or AMS are other possibilities - even a couple of times a week. I just can't see them copping this much of a capacity drop and they'd be aware they'll lose MEL business, particularly from the economy market and J flyers who favour a more traditional kangaroo route.

The problem with moving QF2 to the QF10 departure slot is that its arrival in SYD is close to the curfew. No room for any delays at DXB which are quite common.

i think a more likely change would be QF1 moving to QF9 arrival slot, therefore a late departure out of SYD. This could allow a JNB or SCL rotation to be squeezed into the 388 schedule with one additional aircraft.

 

[downgraded]

Except that Qantas no longer advertise this access for F / J PAX on it's website.

This has been the case for at least 7 months.

Before a November QF2 arrival I tried to get confirmation to no avail.

Online chat was useless as all they did was point me to the Web site which had nothing.

On arrival I simply used it with no issue.

Only if you're in J or F. Doesn't extend to WP in the back of the bus.

 

[serfty]

Only if you're in J or F. Doesn't extend to WP in the back of the bus.

Indeed!

Back in the 90's Qantas Gold (Emerald) received access to BA's Arrivals lounge in T4 with no guesting. (CL could have a guest.)

 

[michaele]

Re: QF PER LHR still not for sale

There are a number of threads in QFF forum discussing the route. I don't think Qantas have the aircraft yet. Not sure when the first delivery is due.

Galley conversation on the way back from Asia last week suggested the expected delivery timeframe was june/july. The captain was performing his final sector on the 330 to begin conversion training on the 787. Grain of salt to the above, with the potential for delays.

 

[moa999]

Re: QF PER LHR still not for sale

Galley conversation on the way back from Asia last week suggested the expected delivery timeframe was june/july. The captain was performing his final sector on the 330 to begin conversion training on the 787. Grain of salt to the above, with the potential for delays.

Think that's way off.
Prior Boeing spreadsheets suggested #1 mid-Oct, #2 mid-Dec and #3 end-Dec.