QF Dreamliners in Y - what are people's experiences?

[jase05]

Maybe they might realise that people are preferring the A380 over the 787 and do as was suggested - 8 to a row with a slightly smaller pitch - wouldn't need to shave much pitch off a row to fit another row in I would have thought

When the A380’s are gone people won’t have a choice. I suspect QF couldn’t care less what people want

 

[RSD]

When the A380’s are gone people won’t have a choice. I suspect QF couldn’t care less what people want

Yes us passengers do get that opinion at times!

 

[mrsterryn]

I enjoyed my flight in the Dreamliner from MEL - SFO, that being said I can’t compare to the A380, only the 747 which I had on the return leg.
The Dreamliner was obviously newer, I could recharge my devices, it seemed darker and quieter, the IFE was better and the self serve snack bar had more options.
Disclaimer - I scored 3 seats to myself on the Dreamliner so that definitely helps.

Could you put the armrests up ?

 

[TheInsider]

Could you put the armrests up ?

Yes you can.

 

[Mattg]

When the A380’s are gone people won’t have a choice. I suspect QF couldn’t care less what people want

Pretty much every Qantas press release includes the line “we know how much our frequent flyers like...” or “our customers told us that...”

 

[jb747]

Pretty much every Qantas press release includes the line “we know how much our frequent flyers like...” or “our customers told us that...”

It’s now pretty much a rule that anything said in a press release by any large company is simply a series of increasingly blatant lies. Doesn’t matter what form of business the company is in.

 

[downgraded]

Maybe they might realise that people are preferring the A380 over the 787 and do as was suggested - 8 to a row with a slightly smaller pitch - wouldn't need to shave much pitch off a row to fit another row in I would have thought

No need to reduce pitch. JAL are offering 8 across with at least the same pitch as QF, it is just corporate greed.
The dreamliner seat has some merits: pitch, tray configuration, bottle holders, chargers, device tray. But have done MEL-LHR twice, always with a neighbour, always came back on A380, and the A380 is better. I suggest pick your carrier based on plane config and avoid QF 787. Vote with your wallet. The seat width is unacceptable and not fit for purpose as a long haul product.

Slightly OT but I was pleased to see one of the papers making a point that $$$ is no longer always the deciding factor for carrier selection. I'd happily pay more for a Y product if QF weren't taking the p@@$, but currently price is their only tool.

 

[Altair]

Maybe they might realise that people are preferring the A380 over the 787 and do as was suggested - 8 to a row with a slightly smaller pitch - wouldn't need to shave much pitch off a row to fit another row in I would have thought

With the current configuration they would need to drop about 2" off the pitch to get the extra row in. So eliminate 15 seats to get another 8 seats {7 seats loss} shows how cheap QF is and other airlines may have a slightly higher loss. Yes airlines are penny pinching.....I avoided 10 across 777, now with airlines going 10 across {777} and 9 across {787 and A350} I dread the days when the A380 leaves the skies.

 

[jase05]

With the current configuration they would need to drop about 2" off the pitch to get the extra row in. So eliminate 15 seats to get another 8 seats {7 seats loss} shows how cheap QF is and other airlines may have a slightly higher loss. Yes airlines are penny pinching.....I avoided 10 across 777, now with airlines going 10 across {777} and 9 across {787 and A350} I dread the days when the A380 leaves the skies.

Wait until QF goes 10 across on the A350

 

[BD1959]

Did LHR-PER-MEL in Y, this after various domestic MEL-PER flights during the familiarisation period in Y, Y+ And J.

Although the PER-MEL leg of QF10 was doable this was entirely down to the roughly 30% load. Swore then to never do QF Y long haul on their 787.

Regards,

BD

 

[Himeno]

JAL has 9 across on their domestic config 788s (which is a ~3 hour max longest route with the majority of Japanese domestic routes in the 60-90 min range). All their other 787 configs are 8 across.
The JAL configs vary across the fleet. Some don't have premium economy, some have a larger business cabin.
788
E21: 6F 58J 227Y (Domestic)
E12: 30J 156Y
E11: 38J 35W 88Y
E03: 30J 176Y (previous generation seats)

789
E92: 28J 21W 190Y
E91: 52J 35W 116Y
E71: 44Y 35W 116Y

E12, E11 and E71 have "JAL SKY SUITE"
E92 and E91 have "JAL SKY SUITE Ⅲ"
The W and Y seats on those configs are the same.

The QF 789 has 42J 28W 166Y with 12J 28W and 42Y between doors 2 and 3 and 124Y in the rear cabin behind door 3.
JAL 789 has 116Y behind door 3. E92 has 21W and 74Y between doors 2 and 3.

In the same space Qantas has 124 seats, JAL has 116.
This is the JL Y seat used on their 787s (except E21 and E03 configs)

JAL SKY WIDER (Seats) - JAL International Flights

 

[Daver6]

I've done the PER <-> LHR trip in Y (and will be again next month). As others have mentioned you do notice the narrower seat. I'm 5'10" and a BMI of ~22. Both ways I was sitting next to a female with a normal range BMI. This worked well as our shoulders didn't touch. However, if seat next to a male, it would be much less comfortable. I also noticed a slightly firmer seats.

Having said all that, I really didn't find it much better/worse than any other flight in Y. I find the foot net comfy and the better cabin humidity was good.

From memory, the seat width is the same as a QF 737 in Y. You just have a couple more inches of legroom.

 

[openseat]

JAL in both Y and W offer a much better hard product. Even factoring an overnight in Tokyo on the way to Europe, it is a much better experience. The really good prices cap it off.

 

[sxc]

My experience with JAL on a 8 across 787 between HKG-NRT was that the seat seemed quite narrow but the aisles unusually wide. The pitch was quite small too.

It felt like JL put 9 across seats in a 8 across config.

If QF gets 777s, then they will be 10 abreast, which is also narrow. Boeing says the 777x cabin is wider but it’s only 20cm wider...

 

[Kendall Roy]

I think it's getting to the stage where the likes of ICAO need to start regulating minimum seat width/pitch for aircraft configs based on flight duration.

Of course, this would never fly in the US with the toothless FAA.

 

[wxxnxs]

JAL has 9 across on their domestic config 788s (which is a ~3 hour max longest route with the majority of Japanese domestic routes in the 60-90 min range). All their other 787 configs are 8 across.
The JAL configs vary across the fleet. Some don't have premium economy, some have a larger business cabin.
788
E21: 6F 58J 227Y (Domestic)
E12: 30J 156Y
E11: 38J 35W 88Y
E03: 30J 176Y (previous generation seats)

789
E92: 28J 21W 190Y
E91: 52J 35W 116Y
E71: 44Y 35W 116Y

E12, E11 and E71 have "JAL SKY SUITE"
E92 and E91 have "JAL SKY SUITE Ⅲ"
The W and Y seats on those configs are the same.

The QF 789 has 42J 28W 166Y with 12J 28W and 42Y between doors 2 and 3 and 124Y in the rear cabin behind door 3.
JAL 789 has 116Y behind door 3. E92 has 21W and 74Y between doors 2 and 3.

In the same space Qantas has 124 seats, JAL has 116.
This is the JL Y seat used on their 787s (except E21 and E03 configs)

JAL SKY WIDER (Seats) - JAL International Flights

JAL seat pitch in Y on 787 is between 33-34, and QF only put 32 in its 787, all of other long haul aircrafts are only 31.

 

[Princess Fiona]

I’m doing a trans pac return next month in Y on the 787.
AA SYD-LAX will be MCE and QF LAX-BNE in Y.
I’m not that tall though and AU size 8 so hopefully won’t feel too uncomfortable.
I might bring some extra padding for the seat cushion though

 

[serfty]

I'm on QF95 (MEL-LAX) in four weeks; I did do a MEL-PER a year ago.

It'll be an interesting compare as I'm coning back via SYD on an AA 789 (albeit in bulkhead).

 

[RSD]

I'm on QF95 (MEL-LAX) in four weeks; I did do a MEL-PER a year ago.

It'll be an interesting compare as I'm coning back via SYD on an AA 789 (albeit in bulkhead).

I've managed to avoid the 787's - QF93 MEL-LAX and QF12 LAX-SYD on the way back to Melbourne

 

[jpp42]

Of course, this would never fly in the US with the toothless FAA.

Perhaps not under the current administration, but the "passenger bill of rights" from a few years ago did implement some nice things that Australia doesn't have ... no-penalty cancellation within 24 hours, ability to leave the plane if stranded on the tarmac for more than 3 hrs (admittedly not common in Oz), and some details of overbooking compensation (the United doctor-bumping incident aside).

Also a procedural note, this kind of thing is governed by the US Department of Transportation (DOT), which is responsible for consumer rights and common carrier regulations , rather than the FAA which governs flight safety issues (and is also the air traffic control operator).