QF to launch SYD DFW from 16 May and axe SFO

[yeldarb8]

ok just changed my Syd-LA J reward to Syd-DFW for 13th July.

Managed to score seats in the upper deck 17a/b i wanted 16 but
they seem to be taken

Anyone know if we get QF Pj's on this flight ?

.. hehe... 16A both directions... You gotta be quick.

 

[dfcatch]

.. hehe... 16A both directions... You gotta be quick.

I didn't think you could be allocated row 16 until T-24 or around then..??

 

[serfty]

I didn't think you could be allocated row 16 until T-24 or around then..??

A WP/CL can call Qantas Premium and ask that a request for these seats be made to "Seating" for pre-allocation there.

Such requests are generally granted.

NB - We are referring to Business class here. It is different for economy where exit seats can be purchased by WP/SG/PS for up to $160. CL do not have to pay.

 

[ozmille]

A WP/CL can call Qantas Premium and ask that a request for these seats be made to "Seating" for pre-allocation there.

Even as SG your travel agent should be able to pre-allocate these. I have 16A to LHR and back in June...

 

[dfcatch]

Even as SG your travel agent should be able to pre-allocate these. I have 16A to LHR and back in June...

Interesting..... I didn't know that.

Serfty - you'd mentioned that before, I just wasn't sure that it would actually "show" until they "unblocked" it closer to flight time...... my bad.

 

[Carlous Moochous]

Hey not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but I noticed in Australian Aviation that American have ordered 2 777-300ER's .. any chance that as part of the closer QF/AA tie up we will see AA metal across the pacific? The article said:

"These additional widebody aircraft will bolster our network strategy, particularly the international growth opportunities we expect from our joint businesses with oneworld partners in the transatlantic and transpacific markets,” said Tom Horton, president, AMR Corp, the parent company of American Airlines.

What do people make of that statement? AA on the Pacific route?

 

[docjames]

Hey not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but I noticed in Australian Aviation that American have ordered 2 777-300ER's .. any chance that as part of the closer QF/AA tie up we will see AA metal across the pacific? The article said:

"These additional widebody aircraft will bolster our network strategy, particularly the international growth opportunities we expect from our joint businesses with oneworld partners in the transatlantic and transpacific markets,” said Tom Horton, president, AMR Corp, the parent company of American Airlines.

What do people make of that statement? AA on the Pacific route?

With that selective quote, you'd think so, however iirc the full release implied it would be used on one of EU and North/East Asian markets, and/or to free up some aircraft on the EU runs by replacing older 772s with the (higher capacity) 773s.

 

[Carlous Moochous]

With that selective quote, you'd think so, however iirc the full release implied it would be used on one of EU and North/East Asian markets, and/or to free up some aircraft on the EU runs by replacing older 772s with the (higher capacity) 773s.

Oh ok.. i didn't see the full media release, just the snippet from aus aviation mag..

 

[drron]

there is a thread on AAs new 777s.the press release goes on to quote the closer ties with BA/IB across the Atlantic and JAL across the Pacific so Australia not in the picture.

 

[oz_mark]

Was reading about this in the Age ( http://www.theage.com.au/travel/tra...-worlds-longest-747-route-20110128-1a7py.html )* interesting bit is the 70 minute connection

One of the major attractions is that Qantas will be selling a 70-minute international-to-domestic connection at Dallas, which means that onward services to cities such as New York and Washington with American Airlines are up to two hours faster from Sydney than via the much slower connections in LA.

* Sydneysiders may prefer to read the article in the SMH. Just changing the URL from TheAge to SMH, and tada an SMH article
Qantas to fly world's longest 747 route

 

[gumpy]

Was reading about this in the Age ( Qantas to fly world's longest 747 route )* interesting bit is the 70 minute connection

* Sydneysiders may prefer to read the article in the SMH. Just changing the URL from TheAge to SMH, and tada an SMH article
Qantas to fly world's longest 747 route

The 787's have a longer range than the 747's don't they?

 

[tuppaware]

The 787's have a longer range than the 747's don't they?

Only by about 1000 kms ... but they couldn't carry as much weight .
787 Range fully loaded- 7,650–8,200 nmi (14,200–15,200 km; 8,800–9,440 mi) with 224 (3-class) pax

747 7,670 nmi (14,205 km) with 416 (3-class)

 

[gumpy]

Only by about 1000 kms ... but they couldn't carry as much weight .
787 Range fully loaded- 7,650–8,200 nmi (14,200–15,200 km; 8,800–9,440 mi) with 224 (3-class) pax

747 7,670 nmi (14,205 km) with 416 (3-class)

oh for some reason I had it in my head that the 787 could do a bit more than that...

Thanks for the info...

I do like the 747's... upper deck is a nice place to be... My perfect US flight would still be a direct drop into ORD, but I'll take DFW...

 

[Sprucegoose]

I didn't think you could be allocated row 16 until T-24 or around then..??

I was given 16A at the last minute on a honkers flight recently

 

[MikeV8]

If the SYD/DFW flight is some 13816Kms (using QF Route map to get that figure),
and the range with full payload of 744LR is 12700Kms (using QF seatmap for 744),
Do you think that it will be deliberately undersold (spare seats) to lighten payload and make it safe to plan the flight that exceeds the plane's range ?
Or would there be cancellations if no tailwinds ?
Or issue some heftier pax with parachutes ?

 

[Sprucegoose]

If the SYD/DFW flight is some 13816Kms (using QF Route map to get that figure),
and the range with full payload of 744LR is 12700Kms (using QF seatmap for 744),
Do you think that it will be deliberately undersold (spare seats) to lighten payload and make it safe to plan the flight that exceeds the plane's range ?
Or would there be cancellations if no tailwinds ?
Or issue some heftier pax with parachutes ?

ER is 12,971km. Must be some give somewhere.

 

[straitman]

If the SYD/DFW flight is some 13816Kms (using QF Route map to get that figure),
and the range with full payload of 744LR is 12700Kms (using QF seatmap for 744),
Do you think that it will be deliberately undersold (spare seats) to lighten payload and make it safe to plan the flight that exceeds the plane's range ?
Or would there be cancellations if no tailwinds ?
Or issue some heftier pax with parachutes ?

The best person to answer this would be JB747.

What you have suggested is one option but there are others. Where I'm writing from the internet is extremely dodgy so I cannot do the research to confirm my answer and to guess without doing that research could possibly lead you astray.

 

[burrco]

Does anyone have any idea about the time frame for aircraft refit or swap on this route. I've booked for late October and currently have a seat in the F cabin (on a J basis) - but was wondering of the chance of it going back to a three class aircraft?

Bit of a quandary really, not sure if I should risk an aircraft change - losing the f seat and ending up with the dregs or lock in trusty row 16.

 

[JohnPhelan]

Does anyone have any idea about the time frame for aircraft refit or swap on this route. I've booked for late October and currently have a seat in the F cabin (on a J basis) - but was wondering of the chance of it going back to a three class aircraft?

I'm booked for January and also have one of the F seats. I'm fairly confident the config won't have changed by then. Bear in mind that only the 747-400ER aircraft are capable of operating this route and that, as the newest 744s in the fleet, they may be the last ones converted to the new config. Originally QF said that none of the 744-ER fleet would be reconfigured until early 2012; not sure if this is still the case, but none has been converted as yet.

I'd suggest doing a periodic check of the seatmap in Manage My Booking.

 

[serfty]

... Bear in mind that only the 747-400ER aircraft are capable of operating this route and that, as the newest 744s in the fleet, they may be the last ones converted to the new config.

Actually, I believe at least two of them are to be among the first ones to be converted.

Note that the converted 3 class are supposed to have the flat Skybed MkII seats, so not different in that respect from the existing F Seats.