QP Perth Renovations

[thewinchester]

Re: Liftoff for $2.4bn Perth airport overhaul

The cynic in me says it will take longer than that :-| OK, much to be expected, but come on - this is QF and PER airports we're talking about!

I can't disagree with you there

I wonder how they are going to get "bigger"? There's hardly any space as it is in that raised complex where the current QP is, except if you start acquiring some former meeting rooms and small offices that were on that level upstairs. Even if you do, seems hardly that the size of the QP would be appreciably bigger, let alone if they decide to implement a two-lounge model - a.k.a. J Lounge and normal QP - that they have done in the Eastern states (but that has had mixed success too - BNE strikes again! )

As noted previously, there has been some expansion to QF's PER T3 home recently.

To start off, bring up this Google Map (link fixed, and you'll need to switch to satellite view) which I've composted an mock-up overlay showing where the expansions have taken place.

Alternativly, bring up this satellite view of the terminal using this link in Google Maps and follow the description I give below. Look at the semi-circle where the airbridges come off (remembering Gate 1 is at the bottom of the semi circle.

• Gate 3 relocation
  Where Gate 3 is (aerobridge at top of screen), the area has been expanded outwards across three levels to well past where the current undercover walkways are.
• Enclosed exit from uncovered gates 4-9
  The vacant space previously being used as car park between the covered walkways and valet parking has now been enclosed, providing a direct exit to the terminal from this level. Previously there was a secure door which was opened up and people went outdoors before re-entering via the valet parking entrance towards baggage reclaim.
• Security point relocated from centre to north-east end of terminal past check-in
  As already noted in other threads, security has been relocated to the north-east end of the terminal, down at the end of the check-in counters down near the previous Jetstar and Bristow positions.
• New baggage belt & link concourse
  A new baggage belt was opened some months back as well in the area previously occupied by the old AN cafeteria. This also formed a new link concourse between T2 and T3, previously only accessed by going outside the terminal and in again in front of the old international building (now the office area occupied by Skywest and the QF crew base).

Crystal ball gazing

Can't say I've done any quick math to calculate the floor plate size of the expanded area. The amount available to the lounge may change depending on if the lounge lobby is relocated down this end to account for the relocation of the security checkpoint. If this is the case, they'll no doubt have additional room at the current lobby to play with assuming offices are re-located.

It is however doubtful due to the existing lift shaft here and the cost involved in re-locating escalators (plus the complexity added because would involve closing down entire part of terminal and cutting hole in side of building to facilitate crane access.

Additionally, the CL is at this end already - albeit I've never seen anyone access the CL a relocation of the lobby may give them some expansion room for it.

Pix anyone?

If anyone has any pix of the terminal since the first stage of renovations have been completed, be great if you could post some links.

 

[drewbles]

Re: Liftoff for $2.4bn Perth airport overhaul

Having had most of the renovations of the terminal 'complete' I find it a joke. I boarded a 737 service from PER to ADL and had to walk to the a/c. This was on the 28th of December, so the airport was probably a little busier than normal, but still. Even ADL has done away with all that for jet services.

I have some pics of the check-in area, but they're poor quality (phone pics) I'll try to upload them later on.

 

[anat0l]

Re: Liftoff for $2.4bn Perth airport overhaul

Having had most of the renovations of the terminal 'complete' I find it a joke. I boarded a 737 service from PER to ADL and had to walk to the a/c. This was on the 28th of December, so the airport was probably a little busier than normal, but still. Even ADL has done away with all that for jet services.

I have some pics of the check-in area, but they're poor quality (phone pics) I'll try to upload them later on.

PER domestic (QF) only has 3 airbridge gates; there are bound to be some jet flights that will need to use stairs.

I don't think extra airbridges came in as part of the deal, and if they were then heavens knows how they are going to squeeze them in (i.e. both where they will put them and how they will do it). Maybe one in the former Gate 4-8 waiting bay, but as thewinchester has indicated that is already being earmarked for something else).

The alternative - as has been going around - is that T3 (used currently by DJ, Skywest and QQ) will be moved to the new LCC terminal in plan at the moment, of which then QF will acquire T3. Although by then, it might be too big a terminal by then (although...if you move some of the QantasLink 717s to airbridges as well, then...).

Another alternative is to build a satellite, but that's unlikely to happen (first point - where to put it, second point - how to organise its construction with minimal impact on the existing apron operations)

 

[oz_mark]

Re: Liftoff for $2.4bn Perth airport overhaul

Dear Macquarie Airports,

I never thoght it would come to this, but could you do me a favour. Buy Perth Airport. Yes, I know I've whinged and moaned about your style, but compared to the lot currently running Perth Airport, you do actually seem to have a clue.

Into the bargain, you get a master plan. Yes, it's already written. All you have to do is implement it. Soon, would be good. All it needs is a bit of that financial wizardry you are so good at. So what if you have to borrow billions - never stopped you before.

Can't help you much with land developments. The current lot have already done all that - seems it is being operated by a land developer rather than an airport operator.

If you can do that I will be eternally in your debt. Hell, I am setting the bar low - I am just asking you to be better than the current lot. How hard can it be?

 

[tba]

Re: Liftoff for $2.4bn Perth airport overhaul

Are they still going to combine the international and domestic terminals? There have been so many plans I don't know whats happening anymore

I used to live in Perth, so still follow the news every now and then. Was a bit surprised on my last visit (couple of weeks for xmas) to find the airport a construction zone, even after it all the reports of the upgrades being 'completed'.

 

[thewinchester]

Re: Liftoff for $2.4bn Perth airport overhaul

Are they still going to combine the international and domestic terminals? There have been so many plans I don't know whats happening anymore

Short answer, yes. This section of Perth Airport's Wikipedia article should give you a good insight into what is planned.

Spent enough time at the state library researching the history of PER, its why the Wikipedia article for it is so dammed good

 

[wandering_fred]

Re: Liftoff for $2.4bn Perth airport overhaul

I wonder how they will handle the published one world elite membership entitlements during the construction?

Or do I wander too far?

Fred

 

[oz_mark]

Re: Liftoff for $2.4bn Perth airport overhaul

IIRC The one world rules have an escape clause allowing restrictions when there are capacity constraints.

 

[Travel Guru]

Qp perth

Just saw this in today's Travel Daily:

PER Qantas Club

BETWEEN 18 Jan and late May
Qantas will not allow members of
it’s frequent flyer program to
take guests into the Perth Club
Lounge, due to renovation work.


Thought it might affect some of you.

TG

 

[samh004]

Re: Qp perth

It was posted in another thread. Probably a better idea that it has it’s own thread though, considering the active discussion.

 

[simongr]

Re: Liftoff for $2.4bn Perth airport overhaul

Does seem a little like compensation would be in order for QP members. They’re paying for the privilege to go into the lounge AND take a guest, and for 4 and a half months, they wont be able to take a guest in.

I think you will find that SG and WP are paying for the privilege in the fares that they pay. And there are a number of WP/SG who have suspended QP membership so how do you treat those people in your compensation question?

Access is access however you get it...

 

[codash1099]

I haven't got the email yet, so I guess I'm exempted from the restrictions:mrgreen:

 

[tuapekastar]

Re: Liftoff for $2.4bn Perth airport overhaul

I think you will find that SG and WP are paying for the privilege in the fares that they pay. And there are a number of WP/SG who have suspended QP membership so how do you treat those people in your compensation question?

Access is access however you get it...

Are WP and SG not QP members? I thought they were granted complimentary Qantas Club membership, hence they are QP members and are covered by samh004's comment. (not that I think any compo is due to anyone at all)

I imagine it's the same deal for all who can access the QP. Be good when the reno's are complete.

 

[tuapekastar]

I haven't got the email yet, so I guess I'm exempted from the restrictions:mrgreen:

Neither have I (I wonder who did, and why some did not - not yet anyway), but I won't count on being able to take a guest...moot point anyway probably as I have no plans to visit PER in the near future!

 

[Mal]

Re: Liftoff for $2.4bn Perth airport overhaul

Are WP and SG not QP members? I thought they were granted complimentary Qantas Club membership, hence they are QP members and are covered by samh004's comment. (not that I think any compo is due to anyone at all)

Yep, Qantas actually state that WPs and SGs are granted complimentary QP memberships, and are subject to the conditions:

Frequent Flyer - About the Program - Gold Benefits and Frequent Flyer - About the Program - Platinum Benefits both state:

Complimentary Qantas Club membership. #

# Subject to The Qantas Club terms and conditions.

 

[Flashback]

Neither have I (I wonder who did, and why some did not - not yet anyway), but I won't count on being able to take a guest...moot point anyway probably as I have no plans to visit PER in the near future!

No complaints from me! :mrgreen:

 

[samh004]

I think you will find that SG and WP are paying for the privilege in the fares that they pay. And there are a number of WP/SG who have suspended QP membership so how do you treat those people in your compensation question?

Access is access however you get it...

Compensation doesn’t matter anymore anyway since I was pointed to the T&C’s, plus I don’t think I’ll be in Perth anytime soon anyway.

I see no one speculated on my second question of whether an annual guest card would be exempted or not, seeing as you’ve paid for additional access, and wouldn’t be receiving it

 

[thewinchester]

I haven't got the email yet, so I guess I'm exempted from the restrictions:mrgreen:

You wish. Looks like QP's still haven't been informed of the changes (myself included), have raised this through some back (and front) channels at QF because it doesn't look good if an important message doesn't get to all relevant people at the same time.

 

[Cheesy]

Ditto, no email to me and I'm planning on being there tomorrow night. If the restrictions don't kick in until the 18th though I might be lucky enough to get a guest in.

 

[thewinchester]

Ditto, no email to me and I'm planning on being there tomorrow night. If the restrictions don't kick in until the 18th though I might be lucky enough to get a guest in.

I'd expect based on the info published on the QF QP website the guest restrictions will kick in from the 18th, so shouldn't have any problems tomorrow.