Rex in voluntary administration, ending all 737 services

[clifford]

Plenty and have worked for a short period in Bangladesh

Well then, try the Marhaba lounge at GVA.

 

[justinbrett]

Could Rex eventually be convicted of trading while insolvent with the recent revelation that they’re unable to pay wages?

They’d have to get in line after Bonza

 

[clifford]

I was not aware VA didn’t have spirits in the lounge.

I’m surprised more people don’t complain about that, it would be a dealbreaker for me.

It's a deal-maker for me. If it saves the airline a few $$$ then that's a good thing.

I think I can live without spirits. We have had an unopened bottle of Bacardi in the house for several years and no one has touched it . But YMMV.

 

[justinbrett]

It's a deal-maker for me. If it saves the airline a few $$$ then that's a good thing.

I think I can live without spirits. We have had an unopened bottle of Bacardi in the house for several years and no one has touched it . But YMMV.

Spirits are generally no more expensive than packaged beer, and has a much longer shelf life so there’s very little wastage.

 

[serfty]

Qantas management possibly could have been charged with similar.

Actually, maybe not so much ..

COVID-19 and the suspension of insolvent trading laws: directors potentially still liable on other grounds

Even with the temporary suspension of insolvent trading laws in the face of the COVID-19, directors of insolvent companies may still face personal liability for corporate actions.

www.corrs.com.au

 

[RooFlyer]

I think since the collapse of VA1 and the resurrection in the form of the low cost/hybrid cost VA2 the amount of FF’ers on here flying VA2 has decreased significantly, just isn’t as much conversation about them as used to be pre-COVID on AFF.

What an odd thing to think/say. Have the number of AFFers flying VA2 compared to VA1 really decreased significantly?

A satisfied customer doesn't usually say much. A dissatisfied customer will vent and complain. So I think the "lack of VA2 posts index" might need a bit of work.

 

[HS-TQE]

The fall out between LKH and his one time former 'bestie' JS has degenerated into a slanging match.

Source: Rex’s board spill should be delayed, administrators tell court

If you thought the alleged Borghetti, Hogan vs Luxon slanging match of VA 1.0 was bad, LKH and JS of REX brings it to a new low.

 

[justinbrett]

A dissatisfied customer will vent and complain.

Oh, no, you don’t actually have to be a customer to vent and complain. If that was a prerequisite AFF wouldn’t be in business!

 

[RSVKanga]

What an odd thing to think/say. Have the number of AFFers flying VA2 compared to VA1 really decreased significantly?

A satisfied customer doesn't usually say much. A dissatisfied customer will vent and complain. So I think the "lack of VA2 posts index" might need a bit of work.

I would say it’s not AFF but Australia as a whole.

In case you didn’t realise, VA’s current customer base is for value and leisure oriented travellers. It’s a narrowbody budget airline with lounges, an FF program and generous baggage allowance.

People have realised that they can pay just a little more and get an actual full service experience, or pay a little less and get an actual budget airline, so no wonder the size of VA’s customer base has reduced.

 

[RooFlyer]

In case you didn’t realise, VA’s current customer base is for value and leisure oriented travellers. It’s a narrowbody budget airline with lounges, an FF program and generous baggage allowance.

Thanks. Can always rely on you to tell us what VA is, what Rex is, what Alliance is and so on. <redacted>.

 

[HS-TQE]

The cheapest VA fare in Y is a carry-on only fare, the same as JQ.

VA as previously stated is a hybrid Low Cost Carrier with 2 rows of Recliners with Meals (same as their nearby rivals Batik Air Indonesia and Batik Malaysia on select international services) with a FF program and limited domestic lounge services.

 

[simmomelb]

Well, someone at Virgin seems to have taken notice, as the wait time for me this morning was half a second. Talk about consistency.

As someone who travels approximately once a week on VA, I've not waited more than a few seconds to enter one of the lounges. If it's busy with staff, there are also the auto scan machines at the busy lounges.

 

[antycbr]

I would say it’s not AFF but Australia as a whole.

In case you didn’t realise, VA’s current customer base is for value and leisure oriented travellers. It’s a narrowbody budget airline with lounges, an FF program and generous baggage allowance.

People have realised that they can pay just a little more and get an actual full service experience, or pay a little less and get an actual budget airline, so no wonder the size of VA’s customer base has reduced.

That’s not borne out by market share stats. Virgin is consistently around 30 percent of the market.

 

[RSVKanga]

Thanks. Can always rely on you to tell us what VA is, what Rex is, what Alliance is and so on. <redacted>.

Are you disputing my assertions?

Maybe you could elaborate and tell us why you think VA isn’t just a narrowbody budget airline with a small lounge network, generous baggage allowances and an FF program?

VA is Rex but with a widely recognised FF program. In fact Velocity is the only thing preventing VA2 from a Rex-style failure.

 

[HS-TQE]

That’s not borne out by market share stats. Virgin is consistently around 30 percent of the market.

Agree. Whilst the J clients on VA may have gone down since going downmarket as 2.0, VA 2.0 has held their own on the Y market at least, thus the consistent 30%+ market shares in every reporting period.

 

[jase05]

Are you disputing my assertions?

Maybe you could elaborate on why you think VA isn’t just a budget airline with a small lounge network, generous baggage allowances and an FF program?

Whilst it is what you say I would say that in J VA offer a superior product to QF in some areas and not in others but at a considerable price difference as a rule.
Both airlines have their positives and negatives but generally speaking I’ve had far more good experiences than bad ones on VA

 

[serfty]

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Please check the topic of this thread and endeavour to adhere to that.

Otherwise you may be subject to sanction.

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[antycbr]

Are you disputing my assertions?

Maybe you could elaborate on why you think VA isn’t just a budget airline with a small lounge network, generous baggage allowances and an FF program?

VA is Rex but with a widely recognised FF program. In fact Velocity is the only thing preventing VA2 from a Rex-style failure.

I think there will always be a market for people who dislike the Spirit of Australia, or who like challenger brands.

Qantas also appreciate VA existing as it a) stops regulators being all over them, and b) blocks a properly capitalised entry by another international airline.

Rex didn’t have the funds to compete with VA but their logic if VA collapsed was sound. Thats how VA came into existence.

 

[Harrison_133]

As someone who travels approximately once a week on VA, I've not waited more than a few seconds to enter one of the lounges. If it's busy with staff, there are also the auto scan machines at the busy lounges.

I think @clifford was referring to the call centre, but otherwise I'd second your experiences with lounges.

Maybe you could elaborate on why you think VA isn’t just a budget airline with a small lounge network, generous baggage allowances and an FF program?

By that logic BA/Lufthansa/KLM/the US majors could be classed budget airlines. Plenty of full service airlines have restrictive fare types. And if you're applying that logic, you could call Rex a budget airline too!

 

[simmomelb]

What was that you said about Rex??