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[Cruiser Elite]

Further to this thread - SQ Surcharges Criminal

Taxes & Charges for MEL-LAX in F later this year:

YQ 502.50 AUD Airline Fuel and Insurance Surcharge
YQ 13.20 AUD Airline Fuel and Insurance Surcharge
YR 10.00 AUD Airline Fuel and Insurance Surcharge/Payment Transaction Fee
WY 21.44 AUD Passenger Services Charge -Intl
AU 55.00 AUD Passenger Movement Charge
WG 4.15 AUD Safety and Security Charge (Domestic/International)
SG 2.90 AUD Passenger Service Charge
OO 2.90 AUD Passenger Security Service Charge
SW 13.50 AUD Passenger Service Facilities Charge (International)
OI 6.70 AUD Passenger Service and Security Charge (International)
YC 7.20 AUD Customs User Fee
US 23.30 AUD Transportation Tax (Domestic/International)
XA 5.20 AUD APHIS User Fee -Passengers
XY 9.20 AUD Immigration User Fee
Total: 677.19 AUD

Exorbitant? Criminal? Many will hold differing views - pretty simple IMHO - if you want to play the game you follow the rules - that might sound harsh but it is reality.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Further to this thread - SQ Surcharges Criminal


Exorbitant? Criminal? Many will hold differing views - pretty simple IMHO - if you want to play the game you follow the rules - that might sound harsh but it is reality.

if you earn all your points through a credit card you will probably hold a different view than someone who's earned all their points through flying. With a revenue ticket you've already paid the fuel surcharge once, don't earn any extra miles, then get slugged again at redemption time.

 

[Jeffrey O'Neill]

Exorbitant? Criminal? Many will hold differing views - pretty simple IMHO - if you want to play the game you follow the rules - that might sound harsh but it is reality.

my feeling is that without the YQ the number of points would jump significantly.

Maybe if they had something like VA where you could use points to cover the taxes would help those with a lot of miles banked??

 

[MEL_Traveller]

my feeling is that without the YQ the number of points would jump significantly.

Maybe if they had something like VA where you could use points to cover the taxes would help those with a lot of miles banked??

no way! this just encourages them. It's bad enough they double dip when fuel is actually very high, but now that it's fallen, there should be a corresponding fall in the YQ.

Saver award seats are those which the airline isn't going to sell anyway, so there's no 'cost' that needs to be recouped through an increase in points.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

if you earn all your points through a credit card you will probably hold a different view than someone who's earned all their points through flying. With a revenue ticket you've already paid the fuel surcharge once, don't earn any extra miles, then get slugged again at redemption time.

Yes MEL no doubt you are correct - but if you don't like the rules in this sand pit go play in another - again harsh but it is what it is. I don't like the fact that VA don't make more awards available - screw them I'll go another way. I don't like the fact that EK via QF want 188Kpts EU to OZ - screw them I'll go with SQ - we are all free to choose who we travel with.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Yes MEL no doubt you are correct - but if you don't like the rules in this sand pit go play in another - again harsh but it is what it is. I don't like the fact that VA don't make more awards available - screw them I'll go another way. I don't like the fact that EK via QF want 188Kpts EU to OZ - screw them I'll go with SQ - we are all free to choose who we travel with.

That is true, to an extent. But many frequent flyer members are anything but 'frequent flyers'... SQ is slightly different with its points expiry, but for someone like QF people might have been saving for many years for an award. They probably have a right to expect fuel surcharges will reflect reality, just like the airline promised it would (they were introduced as a 'temporary' measure).

If points come to someone as easy as turning on a tap, it can perhaps be easy to lose perspective for the majority of members who are not as fortunate and have to rely on airlines to keep the goal posts relatively stable.

 

[petercr]

Probably a silly question but... Whose information do you take to be correct re equipment types. Looking at our booking for April, the VA itinerary (SQ codeshare) shows SQ306 as a 773 but SQ shows as A388. I understand it's all subject to change without notice anyway...

 

[Cruiser Elite]

If points come to someone as easy as turning on a tap, it can perhaps be easy to lose perspective for the majority of members who are not as fortunate and have to rely on airlines to keep the goal posts relatively stable.

Anybody in particular in mind with this sentence?

I think SQ's Ts & Cs have been very stable over a long period n- how have their goalposts shifted?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I think SQ's Ts & Cs have been very stable over a long period n- how have their goalposts shifted?

goalposts aren't just terms and conditions... it includes things like fuel surcharges, opening up of availability etc. (Although the potential that mixed class (for the price of a through ticket) being removed is a significant change.)

 

[Cruiser Elite]

goalposts aren't just terms and conditions... it includes things like fuel surcharges, opening up of availability etc. (Although the potential that mixed class (for the price of a through ticket) being removed is a significant change.)

Get real MEL - since when does change not take place? You seem to have a real dirty on SQ - do you honestly believe SQ are the only airline who from time to time make changes of any nature to their operations?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Get real MEL - since when does change not take place? You seem to have a real dirty on SQ - do you honestly believe SQ are the only airline who from time to time make changes of any nature to their operations?

You asked how their goalposts shifted, I gave you an example.

In the context of the recent posts, change in itself is not the issue... I said for people who actually have to earn points, save up for an award, an airline changing the goalposts is more of an issue.

People without real skin the game may not always appreciate the impact of change. For someone earning hundreds of thousands of points through credit card spend a change in redemption levels, or increase in fuel surcharge probably doesn't worry them too much. But someone earning 10k points a year, and increase in an award by 10k is a big deal.

 

[drron]

You asked how their goalposts shifted, I gave you an example.

In the context of the recent posts, change in itself is not the issue... I said for people who actually have to earn points, save up for an award, an airline changing the goalposts is more of an issue.

People without real skin the game may not always appreciate the impact of change. For someone earning hundreds of thousands of points through credit card spend a change in redemption levels, or increase in fuel surcharge probably doesn't worry them too much. But someone earning 10k points a year, and increase in an award by 10k is a big deal.

So you are not talking about SQ then as such a member would never have a krisflyer balance over 30000 points.
But if you join a loyalty program it is wise to do a bit of investigation and comparison of programs before you totally commit.For the type of member you are talking about here in Australia they will be a member of Velocity or QFF.The problem they have is the totally misleading advertising both use to convince you you can get an award anywhere at any time.totally carp and misleading.That is the major problem for most not shifting goalposts.
IHMO the absolute winner of the shifting goalposts award in 2016 was Velocity.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

IHMO the absolute winner of the shifting goalposts award in 2016 was Velocity.

Agree, they should rename themselves as Deceleration.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Agree, they should rename themselves as Deceleration.

I was going to suggest Terminal Velocity, but without considering a play on words, it wouldn't be correct as they are indeed decelerating!

 

[JohnK]

Exorbitant? Criminal? Many will hold differing views - pretty simple IMHO - if you want to play the game you follow the rules - that might sound harsh but it is reality.

Both exhorbitant and criminal. Some of us are not playing a game and it is very harsh.

I'd love a free flight because that was the intention of frequent flyer programs. Be loyal to an airline and after so many flights you get a free flight. Not any more.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Probably a silly question but... Whose information do you take to be correct re equipment types. Looking at our booking for April, the VA itinerary (SQ codeshare) shows SQ306 as a 773 but SQ shows as A388. I understand it's all subject to change without notice anyway...

The SQ site (do a sample booking for your date) is the most accurate.

 

[Dannyism]

Back to MEL-SIN-FRA-JFK in suites savers.

Can anyone see any non-waitlist? Please? By power of numbers, jump on and check a few dates and see if you can find anything. I've checked DEC31 right back to OCT1 and can't find anything. I even checked dates about two weeks out. I don't understand why nothing is available online..

I can find plenty to FRA or LHR but can't seem to find FRA-JFK...

 

[cove]

Yes D go thru London as it is available. The flight from London to NYC is not a biggie. Sometimes we go between London and Los Angeles and that is best done as a sleeper flight.

 

[SponsorSFC]

Greetings from snowy ZRH, just checked in for Suites on SQ345 tomorrow

 

[diningdecadence]

Back to MEL-SIN-FRA-JFK in suites savers.

Can anyone see any non-waitlist? Please? By power of numbers, jump on and check a few dates and see if you can find anything. I've checked DEC31 right back to OCT1 and can't find anything. I even checked dates about two weeks out. I don't understand why nothing is available online..

I can find plenty to FRA or LHR but can't seem to find FRA-JFK...

solo or 2 travellers? also worth trying SIN-JFK first as it may also be the MEL-SIN leg which is causing the issues