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[lovetravellingoz]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

So every point saves 1.6 c (in AUD). I usually value KF miles at 1.5c so about same same.

Though depends on the route.

I just redeemed for MEL-LHR in First Class for 2 pax at the old rates and with the new cost now applying I thought I would compare:

So is an extra 70,750 points = 35,375 points/person with a saving of $750.00 or $375.00 pp. So the extra cost per point on this route in F is about 1.06 cents per point at the new rate.

So

OLD

2 Adults
225,250 KrisFlyer miles+ AUD 924.38



NEW

2 Adults
296,000 KrisFlyer miles+ AUD 172.38

 

[JohnK]

As frustrating as that is, I expect SQ's call volumes were ridiculously high last night with people trying to get WLs ticketed before the devaluation (revaluation?) kicked in. I'd be prepared to forgive them for that!

Oh that would explain it.

Just to continue with my woes I have a VA booking with VA Codeshares on SQ coming up tomorrow. I had all SQ seats pre-allocated with a VA flight before and after.

Went into VA booking and changed my seat for BNE-PER tomorrow night and all my SQ seat allocations have been removed. :shock: VA can't do anything. SQ can't do anything as we are now within 72 hours and flights are within airport control. Can't change seats on SQ website with SQ PNR as they are VA codeshares. Can't check in online as these are VA codeshares.

Now have to wait until 7:00pm tomorrow to find out what seats I will be allocated and if any issues will have to wait until SQ checkin at PER Saturday morning.

God I hate VA and their stupid IT systems. I keep giving them business.

 

[PDog]

O/T (or maybe not with JohnK discussing IT challenges?!), is it me or does this thread change it's title for a handful of posts??
Something about a denied rumour that QF are sending J* passengers to the J lounge?

 

[JohnK]

O/T (or maybe not with JohnK discussing IT challenges?!), is it me or does this thread change it's title for a handful of posts??
Something about a denied rumour that QF are sending J* passengers to the J lounge?

The title depends on which post was quoted. If posts from another thread have been moved here then any following keep the old title unless you are specifically quoting the correct title.

One way of fixing the issue is to "Go Advanced" and blank out title.

Continuing OT my IT issues are actually not that off topic. I have an SQ PRN and I cannot maintain my booking nor can I checkin online. That may well belong in VA partner issues but it is also a failing of the SQ system not being able to handle partner bookings within 72 hours of departure.

I guess I am too used to being a Qantas Platinum and being able to have things my way but then there are issues there eith the EK partnership and pre-allocated issues sticking.

Hopefully what's happening to me doesn't happen to someone else but it's documented here for future reference.

 

[kpc]

Anyway, first thing I did was check MEL-SIN-CDG for 2 pax in R

2 Adults
296,000 KrisFlyer miles+ AUD 172.38
Total fare including taxes, surcharges and discounts


Then I tried to change my flights, firstly to more than 365 days after booking. I could see savers for 148k but I got this error.


We are unable to process your request. Please contact your local Singapore Airlines office.


Might have to call up to make anything happen after 365 days from booking.

This is the bit I'm interested in...can you change the flights up to 365 days ahead from date of booking or from the date of first flight booked (hoping for this)....I have 2 Syd-Sin-Lhr in 2/18, and 3/18 in R class, and 1 Syd-Sin-Hkg in 3/18 also in R class which I could take but will probably want to push to a later date.

 

[Dannyism]

This is the bit I'm interested in...can you change the flights up to 365 days ahead from date of booking or from the date of first flight booked (hoping for this)....I have 2 Syd-Sin-Lhr in 2/18, and 3/18 in R class, and 1 Syd-Sin-Hkg in 3/18 also in R class which I could take but will probably want to push to a later date.

The date of the first flight is about +350 days from the date of booking. I could not change the date of flight to greater than 365 days from booking aka greater 10 days from the flight.

I hope that makes sense it's hard to explain.

EDIT: online changes only. I didn't call up. A previous poster had noted the same thing I am explaining.

 

[JohnK]

You haven't failed. You can value your points whichever way you wish. What I and others were simply saying is that there are at least two distinctly different trains of thought on valuing a reward point. Your method uses the asking price as the value, the other method effectively uses the selling price as the value (at least the price you'd be prepared to pay). I agree, the second method is ambulatory and very much an individual assessment, which is not as easy to quantify as your method.

I don't quite understand why anyone woud value points at the asking rate. Even if some people pay the asking rate, would you?

To me a point is worth what I am prepared to pay for the airfare.

To Asia I would pay~$1200, perhaps a little more. Most times I'd expect to pay a lot less. If business class retails for $3000, it's not worth that much to me so pointless valuing points using that value.

 

[Dannyism]

I don't quite understand why anyone woud value points at the asking rate. Even if some people pay the asking rate, would you?

To me a point is worth what I am prepared to pay for the airfare.

To Asia I would pay~$1200, perhaps a little more. Most times I'd expect to pay a lot less. If business class retails for $3000, it's not worth that much to me so pointless valuing points using that value.

Well I don't understand why people would value flights using imaginary made up costs of 'what you'd pay'. If they were for sale for what you'd pay for them, then you'd buy them?! It's not an auction house. These tickets are for sale for a defined amount and you get a defined service.

Its simple equation of $/point where you take the cost of the airfare-fees and /divide by the amount of points. That's how you figure out if it's a good value redemption or not. That's the equation you all have been using to realise that redeeming for economy is poor value. It's the same equation I'm using to determine that redeeming for F is good value.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

If they were for sale for what you'd pay for them, then you'd buy them?!

Yes! If TG F sold for AUD4100 I would be buying direct from TG as there would be no need to buy the miles or spend money on a points-earning credit card (which often have annual fees).

There are many cases where it is cheaper to buy a revenue ticket on any given route than spend miles, even for business class. I can't then value the award booking against the particular airline's asking price, I compare it against the alternative carrier.

 

[JohnK]

Well I don't understand why people would value flights using imaginary made up costs of 'what you'd pay'. If they were for sale for what you'd pay for them, then you'd buy them?! It's not an auction house. These tickets are for sale for a defined amount and you get a defined service.

Imaginary made up costs? $1200 is what I would pay to get to Asia. That's not imaginary. If I spent 30,000 points on economy or 60,000 points for business they are both worth no more than what I'm prepared to pay to get to destination not what some unrealistic figure an airline places on the fare.

I guess some people such as people don't place too much emphasis on the class of travel.

 

[vitagen]

Imaginary made up costs? $1200 is what I would pay to get to Asia. That's not imaginary. If I spent 30,000 points on economy or 60,000 points for business they are both worth no more than what I'm prepared to pay to get to destination not what some unrealistic figure an airline places on the fare.

I guess some people such as people don't place too much emphasis on the class of travel.

I guess your value of a paid j/f fare is less as you are a status pax. For non status pax they would have a different value proposition.

I actually don't mind the occasional Y flight. When my wife and son went J from per-sin I went Y for the sector and quite enjoyed it!

 

[Dannyism]

/Throws hands up in the air and walks out.

Haha

At least we can agree people place different values on airline points using different methodologies.

That points guy values SQ points at 1.5usd/point. But I guess that doesn't matter as long as you are getting what you want out of the game, even if that's toasters.

https://thepointsguy.com/2017/01/january-2017-monthly-valuations/

 

[Cruiser Elite]

MEL SKL F - so good to be home!

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Menu in MEL SKL F:



Potato and leek soup soup is delicious - I'll let you know about the sweet and sour chook shortly.

 

[PDog]

Menu in MEL SKL F:


Potato and leek soup soup is delicious - I'll let you know about the sweet and sour chook shortly.

Can you please report back on the ginger soy fish also?? #jealous

 

[Cruiser Elite]

New Wi-Fi sign in procedure in MEL SKL came into effect today - when you open your browser up pops a screen asking for your 'First Name' only - then you tick box accepting Ts & Cs and voila you are on. Well allegedly anyway - a number of pax just cannot connect. Andrea is on duty at desk - she is permanent 'Lounge Angel' alternate weeks - no advice at all to staff it just happened tonight. I connected 1st go which most pax have also - weird.

 

[vitagen]

They only got NV VC in the FCL???

 

[Cruiser Elite]

They only got NV VC in the FCL???

Dont mark too hard vitagen - the seriously good stuff is on board or in TPR / SKL F.

Anyways just check what is ever on offer in home base QF F Lounges or CX F Lounges - Veuve would be top of the pops.

 

[vitagen]

Don't get me wrong I like VC just thought in SKF they would have one up!

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Don't get me wrong I like VC just thought in SKF they would have one up!

I think they do vitagen. It's just that CE isn't yet in the SKL (at least that's my understanding).

For noobs like me, can someone please rate the SQ lounges ... eg TPR = ??? and is best???, SKL is just F or is it status as well? What the hang is a FCL and where does that sit in on the opulent stakes. All I know is the SQ lounge we got to use in SIN as VA plat on Y tix was seriously underwhelming (read absolute rubbish).