Sydney Airport- A National Disgrace

[Quickstatus]

Transurban

The interesting thing about Transurban is that majority shareholders are the general public. Institutional shareholders are in the minority

 

[SeatBackForward]

Ah, but did they initiate the project due to some consulting with PwC?!

bunch of overpaid powerpoint artists anyhow.

 

[Quickstatus]

The QF maintenance base was next to the Old International terminal where the QF domestic terminal is now

Yes, The only place where there was unencumbered land is where the T1 is now.

Still there was no planning for inter terminal transfer other than cars and buses.

 

[Forg]

The main runway being lengthened into Botany bay was part of the whole project. My father was the Project director

...

the Sydney airport project was brought in on time and under budget unlike Tullamarine.

According to my Googling, you're talking about the project which allowed the Queen Of The Skies to land & meet the Queen Of Australia at the new international terminal in 1970?

Being under budget tracks, PwC wasn't even formed until 1998.
How they retroactively affected Tullamarine I'm not sure ... oh wait, Macquarie Bank's predecessor started in 1969, they were probably involved.

 

[justinbrett]

How are all these people getting rejected from the T-bus?

It was my understanding no boarding pass is required. In any case, QF advertises the T-bus as an alternative option - fairly certain there is a sign at Gate 15, as well as on the online airport guide "To check if a Qantas Seamless Transfer is available to you, check with staff in Sydney or at your initial check in. If unavailable, alternative options include the free Sydney Airport T-Bus, paid train services or paid taxi. Ensure you allow enough time to collect your baggage and check in for your onward flight."

The other stupid thing is the T-bus stops at T3 as well as T2. If it's not available for QF pax, why is there a stop?

 

[Quickstatus]

IIRC the construction of T1 was over budget.

It was supposed to have a public observation deck. Was that cancelled early in the. Instruction or incorporated into other use?

 

[Lynda2475]

PwC wasn't even formed until 1998

98 was when the merger between PriceWaterhouse and Coopers&Lybrand happened, so existed before just as two competing entities (with accounting and consulting functions)

 

[drron]

IIRC the construction of T1 was over budget.

It was supposed to have a public observation deck. Was that cancelled early in the. Instruction or incorporated into other use?

You are a youngster. The original construction was not over budget but the 2 major "improvements since certainly were and the public viewing terrace was originally part of the design for the 2010 redevelopement. And it was delivered.

Observation Deck at T1 International Terminal

Make sure you leave some time between flights to stretch your legs and appreciate the view of Sydney city from T1's Observation Deck - this is the place to enjoy a coffee or a pre-flight drink with a view next time you're in transit.

www.weekendnotes.com

 

[Quickstatus]

I've never been up the observation deck. I had always thought it was not built. Thanks.

.... sounds like it's landside...

I'll try and find the article about T1 going over budget...

 

[Cossie]

How are all these people getting rejected from the T-bus?

It was my understanding no boarding pass is required. In any case, QF advertises the T-bus as an alternative option - fairly certain there is a sign at Gate 15, as well as on the online airport guide "To check if a Qantas Seamless Transfer is available to you, check with staff in Sydney or at your initial check in. If unavailable, alternative options include the free Sydney Airport T-Bus, paid train services or paid taxi. Ensure you allow enough time to collect your baggage and check in for your onward flight."

The other stupid thing is the T-bus stops at T3 as well as T2. If it's not available for QF pax, why is there a stop?

Perhaps you should ask the T-bus operators, all I know was that we were denied access to the bus. Maybe if we hadn’t mentioned that we already had a boarding pass we would have been allowed on. dunno

 

[Quickstatus]

Maybe if we hadn’t mentioned that we already had a boarding pass

Did the other passengers show their BP?

 

[drron]

Of course the owners have not covered themselves in glory having decided in 2011 that they had better serve international flights better. They came up with a plan in 2013.

Integrated terminals for Sydney Airport

Australia's Leading News Source in Aviation

australianaviation.com.au

In 2015 they asked the federal government for permission to develop a Masterplan for the airport redevelopement to 2033. It can be accessed by clicking the link under T2 T3 ground access plans here.

Major development plans

Major development plans (MDPs) are proposals for major development at Sydney Airport that are submitted to and approved by the Australian Government in accordance with the Commonwealth Airports Act 1996 (the Act). More information on airport planning

www.sydneyairport.com.au

So in 2017 they came up with this plan.

Sydney Airport consulting with airlines on expansion plans

Sydney Airport says it is in talks with airlines on plans to expand Terminal 1 and introduce international flights at the Terminal 2/3 precinct.

worldofaviation.com

Was set to start soon and have definite plans by 2019. Didn't happen so the Government gave them until March 2022 to finalise the plan. but in October they asked the Minister to give them another extension which they got so plans now to be finalised in March 2024 and the Project is now out to 2039.


And here is the link to the masterplan as it was then.

Master Plan 2039 - Overview

Master Plan 2039 sets out the strategic direction for the development of Sydney Airport over the next 20 years. It was prepared following comprehensive engagement and ongoing consultation with airlines, other members of the aviation industry, Austral

www.sydneyairport.com.au

Don't think I will see it happen.

 

[Forg]

I've never been up the observation deck. I had always thought it was not built. Thanks.

.... sounds like it's landside...

I'll try and find the article about T1 going over budget...

The one I’ve been to was landside & outside, but this was before the extensions that were done … 35-odd years ago? I remember the big poxy binocular thingies that you put 20c coins into.

 

[Cossie]

Did the other passengers show their BP?

Honestly, I can’t remember.

 

[CaptJCool]

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/sydney-airport-hunting-for-owners-of-98-abandoned-vehicles-in-lastchance-offer-to-return-them/news-story/96847b204c4450d844deefada0607e19

 

[Ade]

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/sydney-airport-hunting-for-owners-of-98-abandoned-vehicles-in-lastchance-offer-to-return-them/news-story/96847b204c4450d844deefada0607e19

Will the owner of the gold Holden Ute with kitchen sink and a tub of butter, please return to your vehicle. The butter is melting all over your kitchen sink

 

[Lynda2475]

Wonder why they have waited so long, if some cars have been there since 2018?

Given the. Astronomical fees normally charged for parking, interesting max fee is $500, anyone going on an extended trip could exploit that loophole.

 

[desafinado74]

I think Melbourne Tullamarine is worse than SYD, since we don't have an airport rail link, and looks like we never will, which is a disgrace for a big city like Melbourne.

 

[Saab34]

I think Melbourne Tullamarine is worse than SYD, since we don't have an airport rail link, and looks like we never will, which is a disgrace for a big city like Melbourne.

I agree. Terminal 4 is the pits, kerbside if you look closely there is just rubbish littered in the bushes and gutters.

The whole airport needs to bulldozed and essentially purpose built on the other side.

The train saga is just embarrassing.

 

[desafinado74]

I agree. Terminal 4 is the pits, kerbside if you look closely there is just rubbish littered in the bushes and gutters.

The whole airport needs to bulldozed and essentially purpose built on the other side.

The train saga is just embarrassing.

Yup, and even Perth and Brisbane have airport rail links, just totally unacceptable.