The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

[RooFlyer]

All That info is asked for on the consent form pre vaccination along with Medicare number. Would take a minute to review all the ticks etc. No different to walk in Covid testing clinics except for the observation period afterwards.

Well maybe, but I think someone consciously going into a walk up vaccination clinic filling out a form etc is a bit different from people exiting from a Stadium after a football match. I don’t think their minds are all going to be focused on the same place. And then There are all the other issues I mentioned. And in addition, we are now talking about holding people up for at least 30 minutes probably 30 to 45 minutes when they are trying to leave the footy and get home. Again I don’t think that’s going to work.

 

[Must...Fly!]

CDC allows up to 42 days between doses for Pfizer when delays are unavoidable.

I can't understand why states are taking it on themselves to hold back doses when we could have inferred some protection from COVID-19 to tens if not hundreds of thousands more people.

It is a federal issue, let them burn for it if they stuff it up. States are there to administer. Do your job and let others do theirs.

 

[mviy]

It's funny how all these comments about issues with vaccine supply talk up how local production is still working it's way through or how the Italian blockade of 250k doses is impacting. Yet both these relate to Astra Zeneca. All the supply issues to frontline workers and to aged care relate to delivery of Pfizer. Smokescreen much?

Only a fraction of the Pfizer jabs ordered have been delivered to Australia. Less Pfizer doses than expected have arrived in Australia as well.

 

[Gremlin]

Only a fraction of the Pfizer jabs ordered have been delivered to Australia. Less Pfizer doses than expected have arrived in Australia as well.

I'm well aware of that from working with various state health teams. And the fact that future delivery is uncertain. Which is precisely the reason every state health department AND the Feds in overseeing the rollout to aged care are managing their supply to ensure that second doses can be delivered to those who have received the first.

As I said, AZ supply issues are being used as a smokescreen when there are also ongoing issues with supply for Pfizer. Both Qld and NSW today have called for greater transparency from the Feds around supply. And yet it's not happening. The cynical view in a number of the state health departments is that the additional transparency sought would simply lay bare differences between the Feds vaccine timetable and reality.

 

[Gremlin]

CDC allows up to 42 days between doses for Pfizer when delays are unavoidable.

I can't understand why states are taking it on themselves to hold back doses when we could have inferred some protection from COVID-19 to tens if not hundreds of thousands more people.

It is a federal issue, let them burn for it if they stuff it up. States are there to administer. Do your job and let others do theirs.

In a word - trust.

Supply from the Feds hasn't matched the promises made. Minimal transparency when issues have arisen. Eg - deliveries promised simply not being shipped, volumes vastly different to that promised, deliveries to different locations than agreed, vaccines turning up at random times/days rather than at the agreed times. And in aggregate this has amounted to overpromising and underdelivering to the states. Some of which is no doubt beyond the control of the Feds - but very little is being communicated onwards to the states and what is being communicated is, in the opinions shared with me, heavily filtered.

BTW, it's not just states that are holding back doses - it's also aged care. Which speaks volumes, since Aged Care is now in the same federal department as Health. So the trust issue doesn't even extend from one side of the Federal Department to the other.

And in relation to the "it's a federal issue, let them burn for it if they stuff it up" comment - that's all well and good if they are owning the problem. David Littleproud's comments this morning and the 'backgrounding' provided to underpin the media report that's fuelled today's brouhaha between the Feds and states amounted to nothing more than a pre-emptive political strike. Again, not a strong foundation for trust.

 

[Pushka]

Well maybe, but I think someone consciously going into a walk up vaccination clinic filling out a form etc is a bit different from people exiting from a Stadium after a football match. I don’t think their minds are all going to be focused on the same place. And then There are all the other issues I mentioned. And in addition, we are now talking about holding people up for at least 30 minutes probably 30 to 45 minutes when they are trying to leave the footy and get home. Again I don’t think that’s going to work.

I’m sure the footy stadium was just a throw away line but if we are serious about getting this done, we need to change the model of approach to something similar. UK has been the role model even converting the church where Prince William and Kate were married to a vaccination centre.

 

[Flying mermaid]

I find it interesting to keep checking the Covid live list of counties vaccination efforts.

12,031,969 Coronavirus cases in Australia - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Australia

covidlive.com.au

We are zooming up the ranks - have now gone past Albania and Guyana and are closing in on Rwanda

 

[Pushka]

I find it interesting to keep checking the Covid live list of counties vaccination efforts.

12,031,969 Coronavirus cases in Australia - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Australia

covidlive.com.au

We are zooming up the ranks - have now gone past Albania and Guyana and are closing in on Rwanda

Wow, that's impressive....

 

[Flying mermaid]

Wow, that's impressive....

I know - you have to have a laugh over it, but at least we are moving up the ranks

 

[Pushka]

I know - you have to have a laugh over it, but at least we are moving up the ranks

At last we are even ‘on the rank scale’.

 

[jakeseven7]

Victoria had another Australian record day, lets hope it just keeps increasing although Easter will put a massive dent in numbers.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Victoria had another Australian record day, lets hope it just keeps increasing although Easter will put a massive dent in numbers.

I have a friend getting vaccinated on Easter Sunday

 

[drron]

Some interesting news on the Pfizer vaccine.First the business ethics of Pfizer a few days ago.

Pfizer has admitted it could ditch German firm that made its Covid jab

New York-based Pfizer said it had learned everything it needs to about mRNA vaccines in the last year to go solo, adding that it no longer 'needs to work with BioNTech'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

But in reaction Germany has authorised BNT to increase production of the vaccine in an old Novartis plant in Marburg .Said to add 250 million doses to this years supply and a billion doses a year in full production.

 

[OZDUCK]

I assume that the vaccination numbers provided by the State Govts. doesn't include those vaccinated by G.P's etc? So we now must rely on the Federal Govt. to provide any meaningful updates.?

 

[Pushka]

I assume that the vaccination numbers provided by the State Govts. doesn't include those vaccinated by G.P's etc? So we now must rely on the Federal Govt. to provide any meaningful updates.?

I think they are including them. Numbers match with the Covid live numbers.

 

[dajop]

And in relation to the "it's a federal issue, let them burn for it if they stuff it up" comment - that's all well and good if they are owning the problem. David Littleproud's comments this morning and the 'backgrounding' provided to underpin the media report that's fuelled today's brouhaha between the Feds and states amounted to nothing more than a pre-emptive political strike. Again, not a strong foundation for trust.

If it were Dan or Anna having a go at the Feds, well that's all part of politics isn't it, nothing out of the ordinary? When it's Gladys & co, sticking the boot in to the Feds - that's a whole different type of politicing, and one can't help but think where there's smoke there's fire.

 

[jakeseven7]

If it were Dan or Anna having a go at the Feds, well that's all part of politics isn't it, nothing out of the ordinary? When it's Gladys & co, sticking the boot in to the Feds - that's a whole different type of politicing, and one can't help but think where there's smoke there's fire.

The fire is that no one got the vaccine they hoped for, feds, states, us. Who cares. Just get the local production flowing and jab people.

The politicians just want to make me hurl every single self serving one of them.

 

[Pushka]

SA keeps reporting they are getting many thousands more than they requested and they are whinging about that!

 

[Flying mermaid]

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I think they are including them. Numbers match with the Covid live numbers.

do you know what the “GP clinics” number is that Covid live quotes? Are they the various respiratory clinics that the fed funds? Currently it stands at 190,000 so not insignificant

 

[OATEK]

I have a provisional booking now for next week, waiting for confirmation.

I checked with my local GP and they are not (yet) involved. Used Health Direct, went through the assessment which said yes I am eligible. When entering my postcode the nearest vaccination centre (GP) is in the adjoining suburb. They use HotDoc for booking, so made one. As I said, not yet confirmed.

So, having followed the Health Direct procedures, that suggested the nearest GP vaccine clinic and to book online, my attempt failed. No reason given, so it could be perhaps that they have no vaccine, or some other reason. Will give them a call on Tuesday to see what gives.