The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

NSW ramps up AZ Vaccinations


Today, Premier Gladys Berejiklian announced 26 NSW Health hubs — including most of the hospitals on Pfizer list — will be able to administer the AstraZeneca jab to over 50s.​


www.abc.net.au

COVID-19 vaccine 'demand outstripping supply' in NSW with AstraZeneca now available

The NSW government's mass vaccination hub at Sydney Olympic Park will today start administering the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine for people over aged 50.
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Good news that extra AZ capacity as been added as the more people that can access both vaccines through different channels the better.
 
Flying mermaid said:
The clotting rate for women taking the pill is some large factor more than that - 10 times maybe. Yet we never see pill hesitancy (or hysterical news items detailing every one).
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Possibly because the risk of pregnancy is much higher than the risk of dying from COVID. The results of pregnancy are certainly a lot longer lasting even that long COVID ☺️, so people rationally decide it's worth the clotting risk? And of course people have alternatives to the pill (including abstinence), so they are not limited to only taking the pill for their contraceptive needs) - nor are they told that they must/can only take a particular type/brand of pill..... so really, it's not quite the same at all.
 
My take on getting vaccinated at the moment is to protect yourself in case of a local break out (AU) or maybe less restrictive domestic travel. Given the government is indicating that we will not be able to freely or return to these shores until maybe some time in the second half of 2022 by this time I will be due for some type of booster and who knows where that will be on the priority list.
 
Gladys has faith in the GP Channel in NSW.

“Our strategy has always been to have our GPs be the main people who are administering the vaccine,” Ms Berejiklian said, adding people could book in to the mass clinic if they do not have a GP.​
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NSW Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant (Is she another fearmonger, surely not?)
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“Those people that are contemplating delaying vaccination need to consider that this risk is present and they can’t assume that they will not be exposed to COVID in the coming months,” she said, noting colder winter months present “another challenge”​
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www.smh.com.au

Small turnout for over-50s at Sydney hub as Melbourne cases show threat remains

Premier Gladys Berejiklian said it was always the plan for over 50s to visit a GP for their vaccinations.
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Seat0B said:
Possibly because the risk of pregnancy is much higher than the risk of dying from COVID. The results of pregnancy are certainly a lot longer lasting even that long COVID ☺️, so people rationally decide it's worth the clotting risk? And of course people have alternatives to the pill (including abstinence), so they are not limited to only taking the pill for their contraceptive needs) - nor are they told that they must/can only take a particular type/brand of pill..... so really, it's not quite the same at all.
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I was trying to give statistical comparisons. While I agree with what you have said it’s more the fact that very few people know or care about the clot risk with the pill. Whereas it’s become a hot topic with this.

My daughter said when people get worried about the chance of a bad outcome from an operation she uses the road toll statistics and points out to them that they took a bigger risk when they got in the car and drove to the hospital.

We take risks like that all the time but we don’t over analyse it nor do the media continually harp on it.
 
burmans said:
t may be premature but you cant make the claim we will vaccinate everyone by Xmas if you have a reasonable knowledge that people wont turn up. And its not just an assumption either, pre the recent news on AZ it was the younger generations who had demonstrated in multiple surveys they were most likely not to see the need for a vaccine, what's changed?.
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Who made that claim? What I've read (and I cant see it being achievable ) is that everyone who wants a vaccine will be offered one by the end of the year, not that everyone will be vaccinated by the end of the year.

There will always be some anti-vaxxers - nothing anyone can say will change their minds.

The polls pre AZ clotting issue, showed the group most hesitant were pregnant and breast feeding women and this is because none of the trials included this demographic in testing, so no data available about safety for them. This is a temporary problem, either real world data will become available on safety in this cohort, or they will wait til they give birth or stop breast feeding.

Polls and Surveys aren't terribly reliable, you need only look at the last federal election where they had Labor a mile in front, which was not the case at all.

The real test is who shows up when they can.

Right now they need to sell the AZ risk to the over 50s (or offer them an alternative) because they can get a vaccine.

Pressuring under 50s now wont have any effect as they don't have access, in fact likely to create more frustration at the length of wait. Every good communicator knows that your are more persuasive and successful if your message is timely. Targeted campaigns should run when they are certain that the cohort they are targeting can book and be given a dose.
 
Lynda2475 said:
Polls and Surveys aren't terribly reliable, you need only look at the last federal election where they had Labor a mile in front, which was not the case at all.
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Polls give a rough indication of where things are at (provided the question was asked objectively, although many polls they are not).

The two party preferred vote for ALP at the last election was 48.5%, whilst polls showed it around 51% ... not too far off the mark (IIRC margins of error are around 4%).

If a poll said that 40% (just for example) did not want to be vaccinated, I'd be inclined to believe that somewhere between 35% and 45% do not want to be vaccinated, not that it could be just 20% that don't want to be vaccinated.
 
lovetravellingoz said:
One snippet from Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly today

"And the key issue there is do not use the type of medicine we usually use for clots which is called Heparin, because that can make things worse." ​

While I knew about Heparin, I had not thought through that people who developed clotting due to AZ may have received Heparin, thus exacerbating their condition.

So one wonders how many of the blood clotting deaths may have resulted from this. And conversely now that is known with different treatments now used, that both the death rate, and ICU rate, may substantially reduce or even become zero.
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Shhhh that doesn’t fit the anti AZ vaccine narrative on here!
 
Vaccinations for people aged over 16 living in rural SA (30 - 60 minutes + from CBD) are now eligible for vaccinations. Both Pfizer and AZ.
 
DC3 said:
Including the rest of Murray Bridge? 😉
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😊Murray Bridge is an active hub and has appointments available. I just checked for my 35 year old son who lives in the country and is now eligible for Pfizer only due to his address.
 
jakeseven7 said:
Shhhh that doesn’t fit the anti AZ vaccine narrative on here!
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It doesn’t fit the published data either.
The German case series in the NEJM 11 patients, 6 deaths. 4 of the 6 hadn’t received any Heparin.

All of this has to be put into context of course and those currently eligible for the vaccine whether it’s AZ or Pfizer should go and get it ASAP.
But we need to be careful to not draw conclusions from the limited grabs at press conferences. Prof Kelly is not saying that those affected received heparin.
 
So I registered for the 40-49 Pfizer standby list on the first day this scheme was launched. I was invited last night to book my jab (a choice of 4 locations Olympic Park, St George Hospital, Liverpool Hospital or Blacktown Hospital - none particularly central, but Olympic Park is closest to the city).

Interestingly at Olympic Park there were no May dates available at all, and only a 4 days in June with 2-4 appointments each but these clashed with immoveable meetings or travel dates, so am all booked in for 1st July.

The fact that the stand-by spots were few in number and still 4-5 weeks away shows there isn't really any lack of demand for Pfizer at the hubs.

Colleagues who also registered at same time I did, have also got their invites (wait time a bit shorter if you choose St George Hospital), so if you are in NSW and 40-49 definitely worth registering for the Pfizer standby program as you can get vaccinated well ahead of the October schedule.
 
Princess Fiona said:
It doesn’t fit the published data either.
The German case series in the NEJM 11 patients, 6 deaths. 4 of the 6 hadn’t received any Heparin.

All of this has to be put into context of course and those currently eligible for the vaccine whether it’s AZ or Pfizer should go and get it ASAP.
But we need to be careful to not draw conclusions from the limited grabs at press conferences. Prof Kelly is not saying that those affected received heparin.
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Please, people are drawing conclusions from 30 second grabs on the Project at the moment judging from the comments on social media and on here ;)
 
It looks like there may have been some data correction to the vaccination numbers as despite the Vic Gov Channel reporting 8,269 vaccinations today (ie GP and Fed Channels are in addition), the rolling total for that channel went down by 991 vaccinations.


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And going back and looking at the Vic DHHS Reports:

Today

A total of 8,269 COVID-19 vaccination doses were administered yesterday by state commissioned services across Victoria. 

This brings the total number of vaccine doses administered by the Department as of yesterday to 369,504.


Yesterday

A total of 2,622 COVID-19 vaccination doses were administered yesterday by state-commissioned services across Victoria.

This brings the total number of vaccine doses administered by the Department as of yesterday to 370,495.
 
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