The great SC chase

[Princess Fiona]

Because outside AFF and FT I have yet to find anyone who appreciates the value of ASA bookings.

This is my experience also. I was discussing this yesterday with 2 colleagues one of whom is going to be 80SC short of re-qualifying WP. Neither had even heard of Award bookings getting points and SC and they argued with me that it wasn't possible :shock:

 

[straitman]

This is my experience also. I was discussing this yesterday with 2 colleagues one of whom is going to be 80SC short of re-qualifying WP. Neither had even heard of Award bookings getting points and SC and they argued with me that it wasn't possible :shock:

The discussion sounds the same as a few that I've had.

 

[jdlover23]

Detail 1. I don't have enough posts to reply to pm's.

Hi John

Obviously been getting a few msg's, just tried to reply to yours but says your mailbox is full....

Cheers
A

 

[Anna]

Because outside AFF and FT I have yet to find anyone who appreciates the value of ASA bookings.

It's only from reading this forum that I even realised that ASAs could cost the same as a classic award. Previously I had always assumed that if a classic award was 20,000 points the ASA for the same flight was going to be 150,000 points (or some such vast increase).

 

[TimB]

I toght so too ...But I can't see a YUP type fare to/from Sth America and LAS under $2K.

I think South America may have been a distraction or for some other reason irrelevant.

Inspired by a newer thread (http://www.australianfrequentflyer....scussion/what-best-value-yupp-kupp-29943.html), I've just found 360 SCs for US$504 that matches the clues given by the OP. I presume it can be reversed, but haven't checked that detail myself.

Has there been a discussion of all the reasons why we keep details of such fares off the public forums? The main reason I can think of is fear that if too many people book the fares or talk about them, the airlines may withdraw them. But I can also see that some people might want to keep their hard-earned knowledge to themselves, which of course they're entitled to do. Personally, I'd be happy to share with the community, but not if it increases the chance of the fares going away.

 

[samh004]

Has there been a discussion of all the reasons why we keep details of such fares off the public forums? The main reason I can think of is fear that if too many people book the fares or talk about them, the airlines may withdraw them. But I can also see that some people might want to keep their hard-earned knowledge to themselves, which of course they're entitled to do. Personally, I'd be happy to share with the community, but not if it increases the chance of the fares going away.

The main reason isn’t the airlines removing them, as they would probably be able to see how people are flying on their side anyway… the reasoning is that if you’re an active member, you post, you meet other members, you also share information, then information will be shared with you, in a PM or over a drink.

But if a great route was simply posted to the forum, you’d find a lot of the seats vanishing quickly with no one saying thank you, due to the fairly high number of lurkers, who have never given anything back (I’m talking about unregistered people reading this website).

JohnSydney2000 wants to help, by encouraging participation, and if you’d met him at an event and shared a beer with him, I’ll bet he could blow your mind with routes, but I doubt he (or anyone else with knowledge) wants to give it away freely to someone who doesn’t even care to offer a thanks

 

[Alanslegal]

JohnSydney2000, since we had a finale drink together in the J Lounge the eve of ATA removal, I really need your help urgently so I can quickly enhance my PSR ratio so that I can be targetted for the next round of Double SC's promo

 

[JohnK]

Has there been a discussion of all the reasons why we keep details of such fares off the public forums? The main reason I can think of is fear that if too many people book the fares or talk about them, the airlines may withdraw them. But I can also see that some people might want to keep their hard-earned knowledge to themselves, which of course they're entitled to do. Personally, I'd be happy to share with the community, but not if it increases the chance of the fares going away.

It has been discussed to death.

I like helping people as much as possible but I am not going to spend hours and hours researching airfares and then post them on the internet for some random stranger to take advantage of them, not even bother to say thank you and then there is a possibility that the number of available seats will be limited and even to the point where the airfare is no longer available.

If that makes me a bad person then so be it.

P.S I wholeheartedly agree with the previous by samh004. My thoughts exactly....

 

[stryker]

If that makes me a bad person then so be it.

Why would it make you a bad person.

I would (and do) exactly the same.

And BTW, I'm lifetime Star Gold.

 

[JohnK]

Why would it make you a bad person.

Something people's warped ideas about not sharing and not making busy people's life easier.

 

[wilco]

It has been discussed to death.

I like helping people as much as possible but I am not going to spend hours and hours researching airfares and then post them on the internet for some random stranger to take advantage of them, not even bother to say thank you and then there is a possibility that the number of available seats will be limited and even to the point where the airfare is no longer available.

If that makes me a bad person then so be it.

P.S I wholeheartedly agree with the previous by samh004. My thoughts exactly....

I absolutely agree with you about wanting to benefit from the hours invested in researching airfares and not sharing the knowledge for the reasons you mention. What I don't find acceptable is the gloating and boasting of "I found XYZ for $X but im not going to tell you about it". If you choose to keep the knowledge/information to yourself, I have no problem with it, but posting about it is IMO, bad form and achieves very little if anything at all.

 

[JohnK]

What I don't find acceptable is the gloating and boasting of "I found XYZ for $X but im not going to tell you about it". If you choose to keep the knowledge/information to yourself, I have no problem with it, but posting about it is IMO, bad form and achieves very little if anything at all.

Yes that was not necessary.

 

[Mal]

What I don't find acceptable is the gloating and boasting of "I found XYZ for $X but im not going to tell you about it"

I see it as 'this exists, you should keep looking until you find it. ', but agree depending on the context could be bad.


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[Isochronous]

I think its understandable that people are coy about posting this publicly to ensure the benefits and cheap SCs remain available. I'm somewhat new to the game so it might make it a bit harder for posters like me to learn, but hopefully over time people can see my posting on the forums and might share a tip or two via PM over time.

 

[wilco]

I see it as 'this exists, you should keep looking until you find it. ', but agree depending on the context could be bad.

But "this" could be any flight, on any airline originating from any airport to any destination via any number of intermediate ports. It doesn't take a maths wizz to work out the millions of permutations possible with such a vague post.

Please don't misunderstand me, I totally get where the OP is coming from. But if you're not willing to share, I dont see the point in posting about something that amounts to nothing.

I think its understandable that people are coy about posting this publicly to ensure the benefits and cheap SCs remain available. I'm somewhat new to the game so it might make it a bit harder for posters like me to learn, but hopefully over time people can see my posting on the forums and might share a tip or two via PM over time.

Of course it is and like I said, I totally understand where the OP is coming from. But if the intention is not to share the knowledge, I dont see the point in posting/boasting about it either.

 

[serfty]

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Of course it is and like I said, I totally understand where the OP is coming from. But if the intention is not to share the knowledge, I dont see the point in posting/boasting about it either.

My full belief is the intention was to actually share the knowledge; just make a bit of a game with it.

The OP is a generous person as well as being a nice guy (I have no doubt those who know him would agree) and really cannot understand the fuss.

Note the thread was started over six month ago - and the fare is still available along with similar on *A carriers (I booked two one ways last month - one on AA another on USair).

 

[wilco]

My full belief is the intention was to actually share the knowledge; just make a bit of a game with it.

The OP is a generous person as well as being a nice guy (I have no doubt those who know him would agree) and really cannot understand the fuss.

Note the thread was started over six month ago - and the fare is still available along with similar on *A carriers (I booked two one ways last month - one on AA another on USair).

Well isn't this turning into an "us" (in the know) vs "them"(want to be in the know) situation.......

 

[markis10]

Of course it is and like I said, I totally understand where the OP is coming from. But if the intention is not to share the knowledge, I dont see the point in posting/boasting about it either.

Within any community there will be a circle of associates or friends where knowledge is shared not in the public domain, while some knowledge will be shared by less obvious means requiring effort beyond the use of google so to speak, regardless there is no "us" and "them" mentality here at Australian Frequent Flyer simply because there is no compulsion to share what you know. Sometimes its probably good to check the lay of the land for a few months or even years to get a grasp on what really is being said, especially on internet forums, before making an assessment!

 

[wilco]

Within any community there will be a circle of associates or friends where knowledge is shared not in the public domain, while some knowledge will be shared by less obvious means requiring effort beyond the use of google so to speak, regardless there is no "us" and "them" mentality here at Australian Frequent Flyer simply because there is no compulsion to share what you know. Sometimes its probably good to check the lay of the land for a few months or even years to get a grasp on what really is being said, especially on internet forums, before making an assessment!

huh??

Are you suggesting people watch from the sidelines for months or years before joining a discussion? Because thats how I read it, and if I have it right, then there definitely is an us and them thing going on.

whilst I agree that there is no compulsion to share what you know, what is the point of highlighting something that everyone else doesn't know?

I totally get what you're saying about a circle of associates and wanting to keep things within that circle, but if thats the case, then keep it there. Half sharing it in a public domain is, IMO very poor form. But im happy to agree to disagree on this one and will leave it there.

 

[markis10]

huh??

Are you suggesting people watch from the sidelines for months or years before joining a discussion? Because thats how I read it, and if I have it right, then there definitely is an us and them thing going on.

Not at all, although many choose to luck before contributing for years, what I am saying is that your perceptions of the community may change after a while!