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I'm a set and forget kinda guy e.g. I set before I forget.


What?

You've not gone with the high tech options?

I use the most dependable option going...

A tried and trusted method...

One that just cannot miss...

A little expensive though...

It has two prongs...

Well actually literally and figuratively...



  1. A vertical filer to hold all bills etc payable & renewals - located next to the kettle
  2. A old economy calendar (paper based not electron) hanging on the wall next to the computer - everything gets written on it AND I make it a routine to look at it as I turn on the PC or no PC...

And about the 'little expensive' - about $10 for the three space vertical stacker from Officeworks and $2 for the calendar.

(Yes grammatically poor! Expensive/expense :)
 
What?

You've not gone with the high tech options?

I use the most dependable option going...

A tried and trusted method...

One that just cannot miss...

A little expensive though...

It has two prongs...

Well actually literally and figuratively...



  1. A vertical filer to hold all bills etc payable & renewals - located next to the kettle
  2. A old economy calendar (paper based not electron) hanging on the wall next to the computer - everything gets written on it AND I make it a routine to look at it as I turn on the PC or no PC...

And about the 'little expensive' - about $10 for the three space vertical stacker from Officeworks and $2 for the calendar.

(Yes grammatically poor! Expensive/expense :)

I am with Amaroo on this one. Bill comes in, it's correct. Set up auto pay for day before due. File. Forget.
 
I am with Amaroo on this one. Bill comes in, it's correct. Set up auto pay for day before due. File. Forget.

I'm not being argumentative at all here - just interested in people's strategies. :)

What you have done is actually different from amaroo - he's paid up early; you have approved payment early, but delayed payment until necessary which to me seems the better strategy in this case.

I'm very much a 'prompt payer' - especially if its a small trader - they remember those who pay promptly and generally return service accordingly! :)

But in the case of CBA rights, they come at a fixed price, open for a couple of weeks more. The same thing is available at a floating price, on the ASX. There is a chance - small, but real - that CBA ASX price might fall below the rights price so if you want to invest in CBA, to me it makes sense to wait and see if the price falls to that level between now and the end of rights exercise time. Else simply exercise the rights at the last minute.

I know I'm just being a clever dick, as the CBA price is very unlikely to fall below the rights price, but I enjoy bathing in the warm inner glow generated by my fiendishly shrewd investment strategy ;) .
 
I am with Amaroo on this one. Bill comes in, it's correct. Set up auto pay for day before due. File. Forget.

I do the same. ..with the CBA rights, I have set up autopay just before the due date...can cancel if the share price drops a bit :)
 
I am with Amaroo on this one. Bill comes in, it's correct. Set up auto pay for day before due. File. Forget.

With regular utility bills yes I use the auto DD option which you only set up once - requires no ongoing effort. If no CC fee then CC it, if a CC fee then Cost/benefit to see how it goes.

With irregulars (like rights issues with a built-in free option that has a value) then its the vertical stacker and calendar.

But then I am the sort of person who transfers money from one account to other on the last day of the month to ensure bonus interest is earnt on any new deposits right up until the last day of the month. Compared with do-nothing strategy it has increased interest earnings more than 300 fold from just using transaction account. 3.XY% vs 0.01% at current levels, much better 2 years back.

No cost for phone call (unlimited free local and 13 calls) other than 90 seconds.

Dial number then press 2, 2, 1, #, #, #, 3, 1 and then the amount, #, XYZA, #, 1 and write down the receipt number.

BTW - have you ever read the full terms and conditions for online CC or banking scheduling. In early 2000s the onus of proof for any losses was shifted onto the customer. Now you have to prove you took adequate security not the banks/issuer proving you did not. Very different to US, UK and EU!

Actual case: Told to me by the lady when I was warning some people about the changes.

English backpacker's parents purchased a prepaid AUD debit card for her ($3,000 from memory) for her 6 month Australian holiday. A friend of hers was already here and had arranged a job for her at the same cafe in Coogee she worked part time at. Trouble is her friend did not belong to AFF. Forgot the date line impact.

So backpacker arrived on Friday with a shift that day a couple of hours after landing. Oops, only discovered by SMS while in transit at Singapore. So she caught a taxi from Syd airport directly to the cafe. Dropped off right outside, paid by the debit card. Then worked rest of Friday, all day Saturday and Sunday (friends like these who needs enemies!).

On Monday afternoon went to buy a few things and her debit card did not work, had no cash so went online to find who was agent in Australia. Turned out to be NAB. Went to local branch, escalated through to branch manager.

"You have a zero balance. It was used up over the week-end for taxi rides in Melbourne."
But I am in Sydney and worked all weekend.
"Sorry it has been used up."
Not by me, it's a fraud.
"Can you prove that?"
Yes, I'll get my boss to.

So she went back to boss, who happened to have a JP working there. He wrote a Stat Dec listing the hours worked - so impossible for her to be in Melbourne. She went back and told this proves nothing, your card is empty.

Goes back to cafe in tears, nice boss explodes. Mentions because Coogee was Top Ten most violent areas he had installed CCTV throughout his cafe. Went and loaded up Friday, Sat & Sun on a flash drive (including showing the taxi pull up outside and her using the eftpos to pay).

Boss goes with her back to the bank and demands to see manager. Runs through info and then says have a look at my security footage. Mgr agrees, up it goes and there is the lady sitting in the front seat of the taxi paying the bill etc.

Triumphantly the bank manager says;
"See, she didn't take adequate security. She should have shielded the eftpos with her hand."

Now as everyone knows the eftpos is a hand held unit - she only has two hands. One to enter the pin with and one to hold it with.

Long story short - she lost $2,957.

She and boss went to:


  • the Police - "Sorry but there is no proof that the taxi driver did anything wrong even though you claim to have only used it in the taxi (insult).
  • NAB complaints "Not adequate security"
  • Fin Ombudsman "Not adhere to terms and conditions of use"

Cafe boss gave her every extra shift possible but the original plan of work 2 months and travel 4 became work 5 months travel 4 weeks - as well as a certain to be repeated story throughout her social media circle and UK University friends etc.

I met her midway through month 5.
 
Yesterday was a unexpectedly a really 'big' day for me. I am still recovering in more ways than one.

I've known for a few months that Friday 28 August was always going to be the formal end date for project I've been working on for the past 18 months. I obviously don't want to go into specifics, but it has been the best project of my career. A massive impact to the business, and also a positive impact to several communities around the world. We finished on a high with all have a real sense of achievement.

Unexpectedly around 10am the 28th became a significant date as my ex gave birth to a baby daughter, her first with the new husband. She was only 34 weeks, so this was rather premature, but both mum and bub are doing well so far). By lunchtime I was expecting a weekend of celebrations (of a different kind).

Unfortunately the third event was not so good. I was robbed on the way back to the office from lunch. Thankfully I am physically fine, and what was stolen is easily replaceable. (I still have my phone and credit cards, etc). From my limited view of the assailant he was a rather gruff individual displaying dilated pupils and was twitching constantly, which to me suggests he was most likely a heavy user of Methamphetamine. Beyond the sensational headlines, the way that drug takes hold is really concerning. In hindsight I probably could have tried to grab the guy or something, but I was too slow. You don't expect to be robbed in Melbourne!

I am still really shaken up, but quite thankful that it could have been much worse. Unfortunately the nature of the crime means that our wonderful friends at the Victoria Police will most likely do nothing apart from filling out the form, and filing it.

So what was going to be a big weekend of various celebrations will be a quiet one at home for yours truly.
 
Yesterday was a unexpectedly a really 'big' day for me. I am still recovering in more ways than one.

I've known for a few months that Friday 28 August was always going to be the formal end date for project I've been working on for the past 18 months. I obviously don't want to go into specifics, but it has been the best project of my career. A massive impact to the business, and also a positive impact to several communities around the world. We finished on a high with all have a real sense of achievement.

Unexpectedly around 10am the 28th became a significant date as my ex gave birth to a baby daughter, her first with the new husband. She was only 34 weeks, so this was rather premature, but both mum and bub are doing well so far). By lunchtime I was expecting a weekend of celebrations (of a different kind).

Unfortunately the third event was not so good. I was robbed on the way back to the office from lunch. Thankfully I am physically fine, and what was stolen is easily replaceable. (I still have my phone and credit cards, etc). From my limited view of the assailant he was a rather gruff individual displaying dilated pupils and was twitching constantly, which to me suggests he was most likely a heavy user of Methamphetamine. Beyond the sensational headlines, the way that drug takes hold is really concerning. In hindsight I probably could have tried to grab the guy or something, but I was too slow. You don't expect to be robbed in Melbourne!

I am still really shaken up, but quite thankful that it could have been much worse. Unfortunately the nature of the crime means that our wonderful friends at the Victoria Police will most likely do nothing apart from filling out the form, and filing it.

So what was going to be a big weekend of various celebrations will be a quiet one at home for yours truly.

Congrats on the successful end to the project and on the news of the ex's baby. Sorry to hear about the mugging, but glad to hear you're OK!
 
Yesterday was a unexpectedly a really 'big' day for me. I am still recovering in more ways than one.

I've known for a few months that Friday 28 August was always going to be the formal end date for project I've been working on for the past 18 months. I obviously don't want to go into specifics, but it has been the best project of my career. A massive impact to the business, and also a positive impact to several communities around the world. We finished on a high with all have a real sense of achievement.

Unexpectedly around 10am the 28th became a significant date as my ex gave birth to a baby daughter, her first with the new husband. She was only 34 weeks, so this was rather premature, but both mum and bub are doing well so far). By lunchtime I was expecting a weekend of celebrations (of a different kind).

Unfortunately the third event was not so good. I was robbed on the way back to the office from lunch. Thankfully I am physically fine, and what was stolen is easily replaceable. (I still have my phone and credit cards, etc). From my limited view of the assailant he was a rather gruff individual displaying dilated pupils and was twitching constantly, which to me suggests he was most likely a heavy user of Methamphetamine. Beyond the sensational headlines, the way that drug takes hold is really concerning. In hindsight I probably could have tried to grab the guy or something, but I was too slow. You don't expect to be robbed in Melbourne!

I am still really shaken up, but quite thankful that it could have been much worse. Unfortunately the nature of the crime means that our wonderful friends at the Victoria Police will most likely do nothing apart from filling out the form, and filing it.

So what was going to be a big weekend of various celebrations will be a quiet one at home for yours truly.
Glad you're ok.
 
Robberies do shake you up. I had my bag slashed off my waist by the passenger on a motor bike in Saigon. Lost my phone, credit cards and cash. If you think reporting a crime in Melb is useless try it in Vietnam where the report is made in Vietnamese and you know they wont bother arresting a local in a tourist robbery.
 
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Yesterday was a unexpectedly a really 'big' day for me. I am still recovering in more ways than one.

I've known for a few months that Friday 28 August was always going to be the formal end date for project I've been working on for the past 18 months. I obviously don't want to go into specifics, but it has been the best project of my career. A massive impact to the business, and also a positive impact to several communities around the world. We finished on a high with all have a real sense of achievement.

Unexpectedly around 10am the 28th became a significant date as my ex gave birth to a baby daughter, her first with the new husband. She was only 34 weeks, so this was rather premature, but both mum and bub are doing well so far). By lunchtime I was expecting a weekend of celebrations (of a different kind).

Unfortunately the third event was not so good. I was robbed on the way back to the office from lunch. Thankfully I am physically fine, and what was stolen is easily replaceable. (I still have my phone and credit cards, etc). From my limited view of the assailant he was a rather gruff individual displaying dilated pupils and was twitching constantly, which to me suggests he was most likely a heavy user of Methamphetamine. Beyond the sensational headlines, the way that drug takes hold is really concerning. In hindsight I probably could have tried to grab the guy or something, but I was too slow. You don't expect to be robbed in Melbourne!

I am still really shaken up, but quite thankful that it could have been much worse. Unfortunately the nature of the crime means that our wonderful friends at the Victoria Police will most likely do nothing apart from filling out the form, and filing it.

So what was going to be a big weekend of various celebrations will be a quiet one at home for yours truly.

Wow, what a mixed bag indeed. Glad you're ok though. People on Ice can behave very unpredictably and often violently !!
Hope you've got a nice bottle decanted tonight.
 
Interesting how everyone treats bills.
I usually check when they are due and then pay the bill when the credit card month comes around.
Penegal things seem to come in 3s I hope that is it for a while.
 
Interesting how everyone treats bills.
I usually check when they are due and then pay the bill when the credit card month comes around.

The way my Swiss bank and its online system works is interesting. You can register a standard bill in the online system so that you can pay it without needing to enter in the biller details every time (I guess that's like BPay View or something like that).

When it appears in your welcome screen, you can one-click on an e-bill, and payment is organised. The odd thing is that it organises payment on the last day according to the bill. For example, say the e-bill is issued to be paid by 6 October, then the one-click from the internet banking system will schedule the payment of the full amount on the bill for... 6 October.

If you want to pay it today, you need to go into the e-bill system and process the payment, manually changing the date of when it is paid.
 
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Gotta a couple of wines from the brother in law today. Mate's rates payment for jobs done. One Saltram 2008 Barossa No.1 Shiraz - current vintage retailing for $70. The other was Wyndham Bin 888 - current vintage retail $7.60. :shock: Better let the BiL know so he doesn't do anymore jobs for that guy. :lol:

Much easier to cough the value of a slab.
 
Going to bipartisan politics (hopefully) and a lot of knowledgeable people on this forum on this topic.

one of the biggest cost increases in recent times had been health care (both public and private).
Part is due to an ageing population, part due to new expensive technology and drugs, part due to the privatisation of healthcare and part I suspect by trying to push technology too far (some statement that half the cost of lifetime healthcare is spent in last twelve months of life)/

In a budget scenario that seems to be getting worse, how do you reduce this cost??
 
Moa999 we do need to take a different view of the olds when they have lost their marbles. It is not an easy subject but our nation needs to discuss it.
Read up on "Advanced Health Directive" in your State and consider completing one.
 
Personal health insurance is compulsory to have in Switzerland.

Luckily the cost doesn't go up a huge amount each year... probably around 1-5% per year depending on the insurer, your payment plan and your deductible.
 
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