The totally off-topic thread

[marki]

Depending how fast the vehicle is travelling, and the impact velocity of the object, throwing a projectile at a car windshield can be quite dangerous.

Certainly a silly thing to do.

Glad you are okay Hvr, even if the car needs some work.

Oh Yeah glad your ok Hvr

 

[Pushka]

So driving to work this morning (at 3.00am) when my car was hit by what I thought was a rock. I'm not stopping in that desolate area so continued on and then saw that there was a severe crack on the left bottom side of the windscreen.

Get to work ok and see the damage, large area of smashed glass and cracks in the affected area.

Later on I report it to the police and when I told the constable the area he knew exactly where and which group of people did it! They have so many criminal charges against them it's not worthwhile bringing any more and because I didn't see which individual did it then they couldn't even charge them.

The constable told me it wasn't a rock but a lemon they threw. They know everything and I'm just a statistic. The constable was very good and obviously as frustrated as I am. Apparently there have been 4-5 of these incidents in the last week.

I guess until someone is killed then the powers that be will continue to avoid the abhorrent behaviour of residents whose land we're forced to acknowledge will continue without sanction.

The windscreen will be replaced on Friday afternoon.

The final bit of frustration, I wouldn't normally take this route to work but with roadwork at the other end I needed to take an alternative route.

That is pathetic. In SA one guy nearly died from such an incident a few months ago and police are hot on it here. He has permanent brain injury now. Our court system can suck big time though.
So glad you are ok. It was a close call.

 

[coriander]

Ran into a good mate this morn who I have not seen for 2 hrs <SNIP>

Wow, all that happened in 2 HOURS?

 

[docjames]

So driving to work this morning (at 3.00am) when my car was hit by what I thought was a rock. I'm not stopping in that desolate area so continued on and then saw that there was a severe crack on the left bottom side of the windscreen.

Get to work ok and see the damage, large area of smashed glass and cracks in the affected area.

Later on I report it to the police and when I told the constable the area he knew exactly where and which group of people did it! They have so many criminal charges against them it's not worthwhile bringing any more and because I didn't see which individual did it then they couldn't even charge them.

The constable told me it wasn't a rock but a lemon they threw. They know everything and I'm just a statistic. The constable was very good and obviously as frustrated as I am. Apparently there have been 4-5 of these incidents in the last week.

I guess until someone is killed then the powers that be will continue to avoid the abhorrent behaviour of residents whose land we're forced to acknowledge will continue without sanction.

The windscreen will be replaced on Friday afternoon.

The final bit of frustration, I wouldn't normally take this route to work but with roadwork at the other end I needed to take an alternative route.

Could you provide detail on which major road (so it's best avoided!)?

 

[whatmeworry]

"It's almost impossible for a retailer to not have any money after Christmas," he [Steve Johnson, Forager Funds Management] said.
"My guess is that the banks have seen that cash in the bank and gone well if we put it into receivership now, then that cash and that gift card money, before people go and spend it, is going to be ours to grab, rather than the suppliers getting paid first."
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Wow what a dodgy move by the banks and DSE.

Dick Smith accused of pumping up gift voucher sales

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Wow, all that happened in 2 HOURS?

Sorry - typo - fixed - if only I wasn't too lazy to proof read what I type

 

[blackcat20]

That is pathetic. In SA one guy nearly died from such an incident a few months ago and police are hot on it here. He has permanent brain injury now. Our court system can suck big time though.
So glad you are ok. It was a close call.

I'm sure a man in Melbourne died of similar a few years back.

 

[JohnK]

Actually it is... 897.2mm on 146 days is more rainfall than 475.2mm on 129 days.

I was more referring to things such as "4 seasons in day" type of days, heatwaves, freezing days.

I think Melbourne has a lot more of each than Sydney.

 

[anat0l]

I'm sure a man in Melbourne died of similar a few years back.

There's a fair share of incidents in QLD where you have overpass bridges and some truckies taken out (many died) by projectiles (usually big rocks) being dropped onto the vehicle from above.

Usually punk kids with nothing better to do who don't actually think they could kill someone, or seem not to care about killing someone, or want to kill someone. As far as the media can report, no one has really been caught. Even if kids are caught, most of them would be too underage for serious sentencing, let alone bring to a trial.

 

[anat0l]

Wow what a dodgy move by the banks and DSE.

Dick Smith accused of pumping up gift voucher sales

Gift card promotions seem to be the rage during mad sales anyway. Woolworths were doing lots of discounted gift cards, not just DSE. Whether or not that's just an in house thing or, like they claim with DSE was an agreement with the retailers of the cards, is a whole different matter.

Notwithstanding our toothless ACCC, I think they'd be hard pressed to connect some sort of unconscionable conduct on the part of DSE or their backers to basically rob lots of people of their money. It's damn well unfortunate to say the least. Surely when Ansett was about to go under, a similar thing must have happened with respect to either frequent flyer points or tickets, lounge memberships, fare sales....

 

[TomVexille]

With the exception of a 42 degree day back in December I can't remember the last really extreme day in MEL. The news however always seems to be full of SYD being battered by weather.

 

[Cossie]

Most over rated, non 'news' story of 2015 to get the most air time? IMHO, the h.... p..... For someone that played in a sport that is competitive in only a couple of states in Australia, his success overseas, or in particular, the lack there of, has been blown completely out of all proportion.

 

[Foreigner]

Gift card promotions seem to be the rage during mad sales anyway. Woolworths were doing lots of discounted gift cards, not just DSE. Whether or not that's just an in house thing or, like they claim with DSE was an agreement with the retailers of the cards, is a whole different matter.

Notwithstanding our toothless ACCC, I think they'd be hard pressed to connect some sort of unconscionable conduct on the part of DSE or their backers to basically rob lots of people of their money. It's damn well unfortunate to say the least. Surely when Ansett was about to go under, a similar thing must have happened with respect to either frequent flyer points or tickets, lounge memberships, fare sales....

There's irony in the 'knockout sale' promoted in DS shopfront:

 

[marki]

I am shocked by this treatment DSE is gifting back to it's customers. What a slap in the face ouch.

Gift card promotions seem to be the rage during mad sales anyway. Woolworths were doing lots of discounted gift cards, not just DSE. Whether or not that's just an in house thing or, like they claim with DSE was an agreement with the retailers of the cards, is a whole different matter.

Notwithstanding our toothless ACCC, I think they'd be hard pressed to connect some sort of unconscionable conduct on the part of DSE or their backers to basically rob lots of people of their money. It's damn well unfortunate to say the least. Surely when Ansett was about to go under, a similar thing must have happened with respect to either frequent flyer points or tickets, lounge memberships, fare sales....

 

[anat0l]

I am shocked by this treatment DSE is gifting back to it's customers. What a slap in the face ouch.

Let's not be too hasty. It may appear like that, but let's not forget until DSE actually called for a trading halt just recently, no one really, conceivably thought this was going to come about. Or at least no one of influence claiming it as such now made such a claim. Most of the "experts" who are now branding everything around this and claiming this and that knowledge about are likely judging post facto - rather dubious way to garner credit.

As I also said, we can draw as many conclusions between seeming conspiracies as we can. Unless the consumer bodies are really interested in pinning down what are perceived as dishonest practices in earnest, there's no point getting hatched up about it. Even with the ACCC on side, the ability to legally connect the dots is ridiculously difficult. The ACCC would most likely make a judgement against DSE on the balance of what is eventually, mostly a supposition. Finally, if ACCC or the other legal bodies find an action / judgement against DSE, where is the cash strapped latter going to draw the money to compensate those who might have been affected by this mess? The creditors such as suppliers or even those customers with outstanding lay-bys etc., represented in part by the administrators, will argue strongly for being paid first before the aforementioned affected customers.


In my opinion, those who make judgements about why a company failed now and so on rarely do so because they had the real skill to see that something would happen, viz. they would have the true right to say, "See, I told you so!". Many make themselves seem very superior based on post facto judgement. Otherwise, they would have been wise to recommend prophylactic action to the most vulnerable parties will in advance of a collapse, unless said people who judge are also those who simply like to watch the world burn.

 

[basso]

Hmm, Here is a justification for having a private plane (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdH2DGSXjss), although I think he's calling us passengers demons....

 

[marki]

anat01 so what your saying is that DSE is honoring previously purchased gift cards?

Let's not be too hasty. It may appear like that, but let's not forget until DSE actually called for a trading halt just recently, no one really, conceivably thought this was going to come about. Or at least no one of influence claiming it as such now made such a claim. Most of the "experts" who are now branding everything around this and claiming this and that knowledge about are likely judging post facto - rather dubious way to garner credit.

As I also said, we can draw as many conclusions between seeming conspiracies as we can. Unless the consumer bodies are really interested in pinning down what are perceived as dishonest practices in earnest, there's no point getting hatched up about it. Even with the ACCC on side, the ability to legally connect the dots is ridiculously difficult. The ACCC would most likely make a judgement against DSE on the balance of what is eventually, mostly a supposition. Finally, if ACCC or the other legal bodies find an action / judgement against DSE, where is the cash strapped latter going to draw the money to compensate those who might have been affected by this mess? The creditors such as suppliers or even those customers with outstanding lay-bys etc., represented in part by the administrators, will argue strongly for being paid first before the aforementioned affected customers.


In my opinion, those who make judgements about why a company failed now and so on rarely do so because they had the real skill to see that something would happen, viz. they would have the true right to say, "See, I told you so!". Many make themselves seem very superior based on post facto judgement. Otherwise, they would have been wise to recommend prophylactic action to the most vulnerable parties will in advance of a collapse, unless said people who judge are also those who simply like to watch the world burn.

 

[anat0l]

anat01 so what your saying is that DSE is honoring previously purchased gift cards?

No, I'm simply saying that the "fact" that DSE or its backers may have been unethically raising funds through a gift card sale before cutting those purchasers loose isn't a set in stone fact, and if otherwise would still be very difficult to prove in court.

I'm also saying that if there were any real experts out there, people wouldn't be as easily drawn in by the gift card sale DSE had last month, because they truly would have warned people to stay away.

 

[TheRealTMA]

No, I'm simply saying that the "fact" that DSE or its backers may have been unethically raising funds through a gift card sale before cutting those purchasers loose isn't a set in stone fact, and if otherwise would still be very difficult to prove in court.

I'm also saying that if there were any real experts out there, people wouldn't be as easily drawn in by the gift card sale DSE had last month, because they truly would have warned people to stay away.

It's not defensible, no matter how much you try to guild the lily. Blind Freddy ( and some fellow called Dick Smith) were saying over a month ago that they were destined for failure. The 'plot' to steal money from customers by flogging gift cards with all their efforts over Xmas should see the directors sent to jail. Simple.

 

[Mal]

For the finance gurus.
A 12 year investment of mine matured at the end of Nov. Original purchase price was $1. It had a guaranteed return of $1.30 rain, hail or shine. Actual return was $1.5757

With no dividends, looking back at this was this a wise investment? The guarantee was what originally attracted me.