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A big fog in CBR this morning and very calm, so a few delays I suspect. Over the last few days there's been fascinating weather with a lightening storm up high above the clouds last night and short fast storms and lots of rain. Most unusual.
 
Sydney had 2 sets of storms, the late evening one particularly severe. But this morning has been brilliant. Expecting warm 31c but cool start. Hundreds of young Nippers at the beach trained by senior club members.
 
Our home was hit by a power surge so we lost phones,some lights,Internet and fried some electricity based instruments. Lucky Perth is in a downturn so we can get trades folks to turn up to do repair work pretty quickly. It would have been much harder 3 years earlier.
I think that was from a storm and most probably lightning.

I have surge protectors on my more important gizmo’s.
 
Sydney had 2 sets of storms, the late evening one particularly severe. But this morning has been brilliant. Expecting warm 31c but cool start. Hundreds of young Nippers at the beach trained by senior club members.

Great morning on the beach. Great waves and nippers all out in force after the holidays.Mstr andye2 was presented with his Surf Life Saving uniform after passing his Rescue Certificate yesterday-very proud of him
 
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Launcestonians or Taswegites in general - what is performance of the various phone carries in Launy pls? Telstra V Optus V Vodafone?
 
Hadn't driven my better car for over 6 weeks, so battery had drained. Called NRMA and SMS received for 90 min. wait but few minutes later another one to say help will arrive in 20 min. Jump started and had to take a long drive to have battery charged up. All good now.
 
If a website has strict requirements on the composition of passwords to log in then please tell me all the requirements upfront and not in dribs and drabs - Red Planet surveys - I am looking at you!
Four attempts to create a new password today!
Some websites don't provide a clue regarding the format of the password. Sometimes I have to pretend I am creating a new account to find out the actual format required for the password.
 
Just spent the last 5 days in the neonatal unit. All I can say is the nurses are absolute Angels.
 
Just spent the last 5 days in the neonatal unit. All I can say is the nurses are absolute Angels.

Hope all is well.
And yes, Nurses are the glue that keeps Hospitals working. I've often thought their Uni degrees should be provided Free of Charge because they never get the salary opportunities they deserve and without them, our health system just wouldn't be.
 
Hope all is well.
And yes, Nurses are the glue that keeps Hospitals working. I've often thought their Uni degrees should be provided Free of Charge because they never get the salary opportunities they deserve and without them, our health system just wouldn't be.

SWMBO is a critical care nurse and I'm also in total agreement with the above statement. If certain groups had their way, nurses wouldn't get paid penalty rates either, further devaluing their salary.
 
SWMBO is a critical care nurse and I'm also in total agreement with the above statement. If certain groups had their way, nurses wouldn't get paid penalty rates either, further devaluing their salary.

Yes - I think the penalty rates earned in the service industry are being lumped into the penalty rates earned by Police, Ambos and Nurses for instance. Just wrong.
 
Hope all is well.
And yes, Nurses are the glue that keeps Hospitals working. I've often thought their Uni degrees should be provided Free of Charge because they never get the salary opportunities they deserve and without them, our health system just wouldn't be.

SWMBO is a critical care nurse and I'm also in total agreement with the above statement. If certain groups had their way, nurses wouldn't get paid penalty rates either, further devaluing their salary.

Yes - I think the penalty rates earned in the service industry are being lumped into the penalty rates earned by Police, Ambos and Nurses for instance. Just wrong.

I think the problem is more in how the nursing population has been "managed" or afforded any opportunities, and the mismanagement of hospitals overall to go with it.

I'm not sure about providing their degrees free of charge. We can all agree that nurses are an invaluable part of the health system, but to the degree (pun intended) that they should be entitled to free degrees? Other professions - admittedly who may not be able to boast that their occupations are equally indispensable - may have something to say about that. Our capitalist society ensures that the argument that a nurse may never be able to earn the salaries deserving of their value is an essentially invalid one.

The interesting thing about penalty rates for nurses is that you end up having a rather skewed roster demand in some cases where everyone only wants to work when there is no ordinary time, only penalty (OK, not everyone, but it is heavily skewed). It may then be more popular for nurses to simply sign up through nursing agencies rather than institutions proper as there is a greater flexibility that they can gain the hours that they want, including penalty hours. This may be additionally stressful to the core staff at hospitals etc.

We can have a whole new argument about penalty rates and their merits. As for the argument about penalty rates, I don't think police, ambulance and nurses are and should necessarily be immune to that argument. That doesn't mean that the model scenario of removing penalty rates for all will simply mean take the status quo and simply chop off the penalty loading; it just means the staffing management and award levels of the current need to be completely reworked - at least that's how I see it.

My mother has been an ICU nurse for nearly 30 years. Since I was born, I've only known her to work weekends and sometimes on weekday nights in the last 8 years or so. She has never been interested in advancement to management or so on. But her take home salary seems to be quite healthy from what I could gather. That said, I'll plead naivety here because I don't know exactly how much a full time graduate hospital nurse earns.

Now that the system has seemed to catch up with the numbers (mainly through actively importing nurses from overseas - nothing wrong with skilled migration, but the amounts they were paying to import nurses in was astronomical), they are also shrinking down the number of hospitals and generally trying to make the public sector as unattractive as possible.
 
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Interesting points anat01. I wonder how much the Nursing professional advancement has been historically muddied by total gender imbalance, and the past (maybe present in some cases) relationship that the medical profession has had towards Nursing staff.

I guess when I posted 'free education' I knew there were some issues with that but of all professions, I reckon Nurses are one of the most trusted ones out there and when we need them, we really need them. Yet of all those other trusted professions they are the ones that have the least opportunity (any opportunity?) for the high income earning capacity of lawyers, Doctors, Engineers, etc.
 
Hope all is well.
And yes, Nurses are the glue that keeps Hospitals working. I've often thought their Uni degrees should be provided Free of Charge because they never get the salary opportunities they deserve and without them, our health system just wouldn't be.

All is well - number 2 didn't have the easiest entry into the world, but now we are talking of discharge so he is on the mend.
 
One comment about agency nurses. I don't see how they get penalty rates. They're contractors.

I'm all for abolishing penalty rates when government services, departments and MPs are all available on weekends for me to pop in and do business with them. If society norms are for shops to be accessible 7 days a week, then that norm must also apply to government. I wonder if the prancing poodle will schedule a meeting with a constituent, me, next Sunday. Personally, I have to not see my wife on Sunday, the penalty rates are the make up for our sacrifice. Especially when she has to work all day today, normally a day off. The employer just added her to the roster without bothering to actually tell SWMBO that she had to work. We only found out about this yesterday, by accident because she just happened to check the roster.


Interesting points anat01. I wonder how much the Nursing professional advancement has been historically muddied by total gender imbalance, and the past (maybe present in some cases) relationship that the medical profession has had towards Nursing staff.

I guess when I posted 'free education' I knew there were some issues with that but of all professions, I reckon Nurses are one of the most trusted ones out there and when we need them, we really need them. Yet of all those other trusted professions they are the ones that have the least opportunity (any opportunity?) for the high income earning capacity of lawyers, Doctors, Engineers, etc.

Physicists, scientist, mathematicians, any medical research scientist. While some around here don't trust these people. they are all professions that don't have the opportunity for high income but who are critical to many areas of society. Hell, research scientists have to work from grant to grant. no grant = no job. Basically they have zero job security. No free education for them.


Why would you even post a link to this utter rubbish. It fails a basic test of intelligence. No building in the UK is subject to Sharia Law. It's a contract! A fundamental part of capitalism. Contracts can have a whole range of limitations, including no food or drink services.
Still it is an ample demonstration of the intelligence of the right wing nut jobs that would believe this excrement.
 
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