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Get rid of the sprouts and the weird sauce and you've got the start of a decent meal there!

Brussel sprouts discussion is hilarious. Basically if you cook them in a way that hides their taste they are great.
What weird sauce? You mean the olives and capers? They are an integral part of the dish.
Suppose you would not have liked the antipasto entree either.
 
Windows 7 and Windows 8 were the reason I went back to Vista. I hate it how they created an operating system with no backward compatibility.

Programs that worked under XP do not work in Windows due to 32-bit processing. I have Office 97. I am happy with it. It will not run on Windows 7. I didn't want the 16-bit version of Windows 7 either as that was restrictive as well.
I have a set of Office XP disks if you want them.
 
I guess I am, for now, a creature of some change when it comes to some technology.

Windows changed the Start menu almost every iteration since 95. I've learned to roll with it. In fact, I hardly use the Start menu at all now, but I'm glad there is the menu choice, because kicking aside the entire screen to get options was silly, unless you were on a mobile.

Similarly with Office, the change to the ribbon was widely despised. I can't say I'm a huge fan, but I've learned to roll with the punches.

All said and done, keyboard shortcut keys have helped me stay rather immune to the trends!


I'm not sure why people are having huge problems with W10 upgrades, both before and after installing W10. When I was asked if I want to Get Windows 10 whilst using my previous OS, it would bug you to download it and then further bug you to install it, but it was never fully automatic for me. Similarly, with W10 upgrades, they do download and install (some) in the background, but restarts are also prompted, so I don't have to force myself to close all programs and save all work as soon as upgrades install. I leave my laptop running overnight sometimes to finish really large downloads. My upgrade system is set to install at 3.30 am each day, but it must be only if the system state is idle, otherwise I haven't seen my laptop restart by itself.
 
I guess I am, for now, a creature of some change when it comes to some technology.

Windows changed the Start menu almost every iteration since 95. I've learned to roll with it. In fact, I hardly use the Start menu at all now, but I'm glad there is the menu choice, because kicking aside the entire screen to get options was silly, unless you were on a mobile.

Similarly with Office, the change to the ribbon was widely despised. I can't say I'm a huge fan, but I've learned to roll with the punches.

All said and done, keyboard shortcut keys have helped me stay rather immune to the trends!


I'm not sure why people are having huge problems with W10 upgrades, both before and after installing W10. When I was asked if I want to Get Windows 10 whilst using my previous OS, it would bug you to download it and then further bug you to install it, but it was never fully automatic for me. Similarly, with W10 upgrades, they do download and install (some) in the background, but restarts are also prompted, so I don't have to force myself to close all programs and save all work as soon as upgrades install. I leave my laptop running overnight sometimes to finish really large downloads. My upgrade system is set to install at 3.30 am each day, but it must be only if the system state is idle, otherwise I haven't seen my laptop restart by itself.

M$ was outed for making the W10 upgrade become a 'critical' upgrade a few months back. That way it does install without being requested if you have your system set to install critical upgrades.

With some of the older versions, M$ also altered the 'priority' settings automatically with another of the Tuesday upgrade cycle updates. That also got quite a lot of write-ups in the tech literature.

Not satisfied by those methods, M$ then went to auto downloading W10 but not installing it. There was even one set of updates (withdrawn after 1 day I recall) that made it very hard not to install W10 as there was no obvious exit from the "Install W10" pop-up.

All that said - I have not come across any discussion of laptops/desktops/tablets turning themselves on nor creating new profiles - that was caused by a M$ update.

With W7, W8 and now W10 they did a neat trick (clever for them not us that is) where they introduced multiple tracking feeds as 1 component of an upgrade. I uncovered it when I read a bulletin from M$ for app developers encouraging them to add these parameters into their apps - existing and future. The reason so the app can track your use of it, where and when you use it and how often/long you use it amongst other feedback.

Subsequently it got a lot of write-up (around Feb this year I think it was).

Curiously enough, around then (I did not install that update btw) my system stopped the auto power down/power save/hard disk save sequences that I had set on original install - even though they still are set that way.

I always disconnect the cable modem if I am not using the machine just in case and have always done so since the 90s (phone line back then).

You never know when your luck runs out. A bit like with backing up. Always have two or three separate backup devices so if something does go wrong you have some chance of not infecting your one and only backup drive/destination.
 
It's Ok to set your Updates to only download when you want, but I want to be able to select the "Update" to actully run.

"Malicious Software Removal Tool" is not really an update, but I avoid it as Microsoft and I have differing options on what constitutes "malicious".
 
I have a set of Office XP disks if you want them.
But Windows XP is no longer and most browsers won't function properly on XP.

Windows Vista on the other hand is supported until sometime in 2017 and one can make a decision then on what to do.
 
And you have empirical data to back this up? And the total number of priests and the total number of interactions with children v the same for transgender? How about historical? Oh.. and lets look at all the good things deeds of priests v transgender people.. hmm..

Have they had a royal commission into transgender people abusing others in toilets, yet? Is there a whole movie about the Boston Globe investigation institutional cover ups of transgender abuse?

Thousands?
But if you are talking of percentages of offenders you should look at QLD ALP state politicians.At least 2 have been in jail for molestation.
Not so long ago one from NSW was as well.As a % of ALP cabinet ministers of NSW that is almost certainly higher than Catholic priests.

What is disturbing is that if anyone made a similar claim re Imams they would be described as Islamophobic at best but racist and a bigot on most occasions.

How many catholic priests are NSW cabinet ministers?
Of course, that is a fairly incomprehensible statistic that you've made up. By what bizarre twist of logic is a Queensland politician relevant to NSW Cabinet ministers. I don't believe Keith Wright was ever a cabinet minister in QLD, or federally. Certainly he was never a cabinet minister in NSW. Still over the last 115 years there have probably been, what 600 cabinet ministers in Australia, and you have 2 who've been done for child abuse. Compare that to just the Ballarat dioceses, they're up to 4 or 5 aren't they? Seems like you're just making up nonsense again.

Still the same question applies: When is the Royal Commission into abuse by ALP politicians? Is there a royal commission into imans that revels 100s of abuse children on thousands of occasions?
 
You must be one of the six or so who still use Vista willingly.

Isn't it nice to know Microsoft have a Vista team just about dedicated to you for the next 46 weeks.
What can I say. I feel special. ;)

Windows 7 is not that special. I used for ~12 months. Don't like it. If I am forced to use it then different story.
 
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I have been pretty radio silent this week as work has been nuts.

I have worked more, and more intellectually this week than I have in a long time :o
 
What's the one-liner for Windows 10?

Yay or Nay?
 
I thought it was, like for many of us, simply recovery from wozza's Cabernet do.

I recovered from Cabernet do okay, but then straight back into one of those mega weeks where the number of hours worked doesn't really reflect the effort or emotional capital expended.
 
Qualified Yay - Still need to be able to selectively update before upgrading ... I'm looking at this currently ...

Depends on what version of W10 you have installed - whether business or pleb version. If of the business versions then it is fairly straight forward through the admin profile (although not obvious just straight forward).

With the pleb version I think there is a work around to avoid the mandatory auto updating set-up - but as I am waiting to the last possible moment I have not looked into it.

If you do have the pleb version and find out the work around to stop the auto installation - please share!

Finding the nasty 'unannounced' update with all your program use data being auto fwded to M$ - I am now looking into each and every update to the 4th link level and then cross-ref to the developer's bulletins.

Even less happy Jan!
 
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