The totally off-topic thread

[drron]

Exactly


I do hope you forgot a smiley with that. There is no suggestion that ANZAC day is not a big deal. I'm extremely suprised by what it sounds like you're trying to do with your reply. I hope that it wasn't your intention.

The question asked is what is so special about ANZAC day that it shouldn't be treated exactly the same as any other similar day. Take Good Friday, a day that is vastly more important to the Christian faith than ANZAC day. You don't see the church whinging about there being a holiday, do you? No. Instead they get on and focus on the point of the day. The fact of a public holiday has no bearing on that at all.

In the same way why can't the RSL get on and focus on the meaning of ANZAC day. That is the greatest irony, that the RSL is banging on about the public holiday taking the focus of the meaning of ANZAC day, but then in raising the issue they have taken the focus off that very meaning.

Good friday does always fall on a friday so poor comparison therefore irrelevant.It has not been the tradition to have a Monday off when Anzac day falls on a Sunday.Why do we need an extra public holiday?
And i did say the same thing when working.
Most of our public holidays are defined as say the first Monday of the month.The only ones not are Australia day,Anzac day,Chrismas and New Year.These last two are when schools,uni and many businesses are closed anyway and Mondayising the holiday(as the Kiwis term it)is of no major concern.I have always believed that Australia Day and Anzac day should be date specific.Indeed in New Zealand Waitangi Day and Anzac day are not Mondayised.
However I realise that the masses will never say no to an extra day off and that is the way it will be-however i dont have to like it and dont think I should be pilloried for having those views.

 

[MissBurrill]

Am trying to make a booking with my Qantas credit and here's what came up :shock::shock:

I've done a copy and paste which explains the random fonts anyway I was trying to check out a Sydney - Singapore return which being a voucher shows me economy.......



1. Select a return price from a fare type

Fare TypeDescriptionLowest price*Other flights*^Sale Latest offer $5715 from $5794 Red e-Deal Great deal $5756 from $5854 Super Saver $1255 from $1259 Flexi Saver $1779 from $1783

* Return price is for 1 adult and includes charges and taxes. Total price for all passengers will be displayed on the next page.
^ Price differences within a fare type may be due to flight connections or availability.
2. Select from the flights available for $5715 return.

Greyed out flights are available at a different price or in other fare types above.

flights out Sydney to Singapore - Wed 2 Jun 10 FromtoFlightDuration Sydney
15:50 Singapore
21:55 QF5 8h 05m Sydney
15:30 Singapore
21:45 QF319 8h 15m Sydney
16:15 Singapore
22:30 QF31 8h 15m Sydney
12:00 Melbourne
13:30 QF431 11h 10m Melbourne
15:30 Singapore
21:10 QF9 Sydney
11:30 Melbourne
13:00 QF429 11h 40m Melbourne
15:30 Singapore
21:10 QF9 Sydney
10:05 Brisbane
11:35 QF516 11h 45m Brisbane
13:55 Singapore
19:50 QF51 Sydney
13:50 Jakarta
18:40 QF41 12h 35m Jakarta
21:40 Singapore
00:25 (Thu) VF506 flights back Singapore to Sydney - Sun 13 Jun 10 FromtoFlightDuration Singapore
09:40 Sydney
19:00 QF32 7h 20m Singapore
19:50 Sydney
05:10 (Mon) QF6 7h 20m Singapore
19:45 Sydney
05:15 (Mon) QF320 7h 30m Singapore
22:30 Sydney
10:15 (Mon) QF82 9h 45m
1 stop Singapore
22:30 Adelaide
06:40 (Mon) QF82 9h 55m Adelaide
08:05 Sydney
10:25 QF740 Singapore
19:45 Melbourne
04:50 (Mon) QF10 10h 40m Melbourne
07:00 Sydney
08:25 QF408 Singapore
21:25 Brisbane
06:50 (Mon) QF52 10h 55m Brisbane
08:45 Sydney
10:20 QF511 Singapore
13:30 Bangkok
14:55 CX712 14h 00m Bangkok
17:30 Sydney
05:30 (Mon) QF2 Singapore
13:30 Bangkok
14:55 CX712 14h 35m Bangkok
18:10 Sydney
06:05 (Mon) QF302

 

[anat0l]

Am trying to make a booking with my Qantas credit and here's what came up :shock::shock:

I've done a copy and paste which explains the random fonts anyway I was trying to check out a Sydney - Singapore return which being a voucher shows me economy.......

I don't quite get it.

Those are pretty high prices, but I've repeated the search myself and the prices are a lot more normal.

If you are using QF voucher / credit (i.e. from a previous cancelled booking), in most cases remember that the fare you pay must be equal to or greater than the value of credit (higher fare). Still, need a few more details to get what's going on here.

 

[MissBurrill]

I don't quite get it.

Those are pretty high prices, but I've repeated the search myself and the prices are a lot more normal.

If you are using QF voucher / credit (i.e. from a previous cancelled booking), in most cases remember that the fare you pay must be equal to or greater than the value of credit (higher fare). Still, need a few more details to get what's going on here.

My previous fare was a sale one (or maybe red e-deal). Anyway it was a mega cheap one and I keep searching through the voucher rebooking system and it keeps giving me that price! Maybe it's a sign not to go to Singapore......?

I have US$700 cash so maybe I should be going to the USA with the credit.

PS I'm only on my first glass of wine tonight.

 

[medhead]

Good friday does always fall on a friday so poor comparison therefore irrelevant.It has not been the tradition to have a Monday off when Anzac day falls on a Sunday.Why do we need an extra public holiday?
And i did say the same thing when working.
Most of our public holidays are defined as say the first Monday of the month.The only ones not are Australia day,Anzac day,Chrismas and New Year.These last two are when schools,uni and many businesses are closed anyway and Mondayising the holiday(as the Kiwis term it)is of no major concern.I have always believed that Australia Day and Anzac day should be date specific.Indeed in New Zealand Waitangi Day and Anzac day are not Mondayised.
However I realise that the masses will never say no to an extra day off and that is the way it will be-however i dont have to like it and dont think I should be pilloried for having those views.

Sorry no, It is not a poor example at all. Good Friday is about the crucifixion of Christ. It is not about a Holiday. This is what makes it relevant, as no matter what day it falls on if there was no public holiday there would still be observance of the crucifixion of Christ. This is exactly the same as ANZAC day.

Further, it is always the tradition that ANZAC day on a Sunday is followed by the public holiday on the Monday, in all of my living memory. But ANZAC day on a Saturday does not have a Monday holiday. So sorry this is not about mondayising a day of observance. (BTW that is a #%^&#$@ stupid term)

Regardless of the when the public holiday falls and this is the importabt fact, just like Waitangi Day and Australia Day, ANZAC Day is on 25th of April. This fact is not changed in any way what so ever by having a public holiday on a Monday following.

As for the your question about an extra public holiday. That is a blatant distraction, as we are not getting an extra holiday at all. The question is why should there be 1 less public holiday? Instead of asking to disprove a negative. Why don't you try given proof for your suggested change. Why shouldn't there be a holiday?

I note you haven't denied the way that Samh's post was twisted. Does that mean I can assume you intended that post to be taken in the worst possible way.

 

[anat0l]

Found out today that as of 14 May I will no longer be a NZ GE; a mere Gold I have been demoted to.

So the status comp honeymoon is over, but that's still 2 Star Alliance Gold memberships I have. So not a big deal (although I still have GE vouchers left that I can't use).

 

[drron]

Sorry no, It is not a poor example at all. Good Friday is about the crucifixion of Christ. It is not about a Holiday. This is what makes it relevant, as no matter what day it falls on if there was no public holiday there would still be observance of the crucifixion of Christ. This is exactly the same as ANZAC day.

Further, it is always the tradition that ANZAC day on a Sunday is followed by the public holiday on the Monday, in all of my living memory. But ANZAC day on a Saturday does not have a Monday holiday. So sorry this is not about mondayising a day of observance. (BTW that is a #%^&#$@ stupid term)

Regardless of the when the public holiday falls and this is the importabt fact, just like Waitangi Day and Australia Day, ANZAC Day is on 25th of April. This fact is not changed in any way what so ever by having a public holiday on a Monday following.

As for the your question about an extra public holiday. That is a blatant distraction, as we are not getting an extra holiday at all. The question is why should there be 1 less public holiday? Instead of asking to disprove a negative. Why don't you try given proof for your suggested change. Why shouldn't there be a holiday?

I note you haven't denied the way that Samh's post was twisted. Does that mean I can assume you intended that post to be taken in the worst possible way.

Good Friday never falls on a Sunday that is why I said not a good example in this argument.
Mondayising is a NZ term not made up by me.
As to the highlighted part of the quote i have absolutely no idea what you mean.I merely related to a part of Sam's statement,and i am sure he didn't mean it in the way you are trying to twist my words though as I said i really am not sure what you are accusing me of.

 

[medhead]

So what’s the big deal about ANZAC Day, why should it be any different?

So if Anzac day is not such a big deal why have a public holiday?

As to the highlighted part of the quote i have absolutely no idea what you mean.I merely related to a part of Sam's statement,and i am sure he didn't mean it in the way you are trying to twist my words though as I said i really am not sure what you are accusing me of.

Really, it is very easy. samh did not say or even imply that ANZAC day is not a big deal. He asked what was so special about ANZAC day that it should not have a public holiday just like even other special day, including Australia Day.

Your reply twists that to imply that he was saying ANZAC is not a big deal, which is clearly not what he was saying.

 

[drron]

Really, it is very easy. samh did not say or even imply that ANZAC day is not a big deal. He asked what was so special about ANZAC day that it should not have a public holiday just like even other special day, including Australia Day.

Your reply twists that to imply that he was saying ANZAC is not a big deal, which is clearly not what he was saying.

sorry my mind is not that twisted.

 

[JohnK]

Personally for as long as I can remember in NSW we always had New Years Day, Australia Day, Anzac Day, Good Friday, Easter Monday, Queens Birthday, Labour Day, Christmas Day and Boxing Day. If Australia Day and Anzac Day fell on a Saturday the holiday was on Friday and if they fell on Sunday the holiday was on the Monday.

Then some fool decided that if Australia Day and Anzac Day fell on a weekend we would not get a substitute public holiday. What a load of codswallop. Both of these days should have substitute public holidays when they fall on a weekend or another public holiday.

 

[serfty]

Of course, Good Friday will allways be on the same day of the week - like Palm Tuesday or the various "queens Birthday" holidays in Oz.

Anzac day is date driven; and is important to many people (like 90,000 silent patrons at the MCG last week.

 

[straitman]

Anzac day is date driven; and is important to many people (like 90,000 silent patrons at the MCG last week.

It is important to a few others for other reasons also :!:

 

[medhead]

sorry my mind is not that twisted.

And yet you wrote it.

Of course, Good Friday will allways be on the same day of the week - like Palm Tuesday or the various "queens Birthday" holidays in Oz.

Anzac day is date driven; and is important to many people (like 90,000 silent patrons at the MCG last week.

Actually Good Friday is also date driven and the point is that it is very different from the Queen's Birthday, for example, which isn't even on the queens birthday. It is about observing something that occurred on a particular day, just like ANZAC day, and having a public holiday has no bearing on that observance.

 

[drron]

And yet you wrote it.


Actually Good Friday is also date driven and the point is that it is very different from the Queen's Birthday, for example, which isn't even on the queens birthday. It is about observing something that occurred on a particular day, just like ANZAC day, and having a public holiday has no bearing on that observance.

And as always you interpret according to your views.I did not write it as an insult.You choose to interpret it that way as always and for that I am sorry.
But Good Friday is Friday specific,the Queens Birthday,Labour day,Bank holiday in Australia are Monday specific.
And although Good Friday does have special significance in many states of the US it is not a public holiday.
In many countries around the world their important National Days are only a public holiday on the actual date eg Anzac day in NZ.And yes even if it falls on a sunday that still is significant for many who have to work on that day-including of relevance for this forum airline staff.But as I have already said most want the public holiday that however is no argument about the need for it in the first place.

 

[Dee Thom]

.But as I have already said most want the public holiday that however is no argument about the need for it in the first place.

Agree wholeheartedly, There are too many public holidays in Aus already! Noticed that some Union Twit in the Southern States is pushing to have the 26th April a holiday when Anzac Day falls mid-week; totally lost the plot on the reason why Anzac Day falls on the 25th April each year, not a set day ie., Easter Friday.
Get an act Guys, this day is a day for remembering the sons of Aus who gave their life so that you can all walk free, this includes Afghan and any other recent theatres. If you're anti war, still take a moment to remember the real Aussie heros, not the holiday...........

Cheers Dee

 

[Flashback]

Agree wholeheartedly, There are too many public holidays in Aus already! Noticed that some Union Twit in the Southern States is pushing to have the 26th April a holiday when Anzac Day falls mid-week; totally lost the plot on the reason why Anzac Day falls on the 25th April each year, not a set day ie., Easter Friday.
Get an act Guys, this day is a day for remembering the sons of Aus who gave their life so that you can all walk free, this includes Afghan and any other recent theatres. If you're anti war, still take a moment to remember the real Aussie heros, not the holiday...........

Cheers Dee

Hmm, theatres? They're actors? ok...

karens and I were in Rotorua on Anzac day this year ; the "MC" made some really inappropriate comments, and almost made a mockery out of the day.

 

[Mal]

Has anyone watched "Up in the Air" when flying on Cathay?

It was edited for content, so you really won't get the full movie if you watch it there.

I think the Qantas version is complete.

 

[MissBurrill]

Get an act Guys, this day is a day for remembering the sons of Aus who gave their life so that you can all walk free, this includes Afghan and any other recent theatres. If you're anti war, still take a moment to remember the real Aussie heros, not the holiday...........

Can we remember the daughters too please? Some Veterans are females.

karens and I were in Rotorua on Anzac day this year ; the "MC" made some really inappropriate comments, and almost made a mockery out of the day.

Lucky I hadn't swigged that bottle of rum before the service or I would have given him a piece of my mind.

 

[Flashback]

Lucky I hadn't swigged that bottle of rum before the service or I would have given him a piece of my mind.

You didn't touch it at all, which I was surprised at ; as you had talked about it all week...:!:

 

[MissBurrill]

You didn't touch it at all, which I was surprised at ; as you had talked about it all week...:!:

I'm normally binge drinking with a group on ANZAC Day.

I sure was thinking of drinking it that final morning at Auckland airport.......