The totally off-topic thread

[Flashback]

If you like. I have a HDD attached to it so if you like I'll leave treasure in a folder for you to get at

Would be quite an MR to get there

 

[samh004]

Would be quite an MR to get there

Oh well you see I thought you had the skillz to do it from where you are

 

[Mal]

If you like. I have a HDD attached to it so if you like I'll leave treasure in a folder for you to get at

I'm quite scared as to what "treasure" you would leave in a folder!

 

[anat0l]

I'm quite scared as to what "treasure" you would leave in a folder!

It must be well and truly past the days now when said item is now referred to as a folder and not a directory.

 

[samh004]

I'm quite scared as to what "treasure" you would leave in a folder!

I’m sure you know I meant a document of some sort with a code in it that you could then repeat to prove to me you gained access.

Then again… what were you thinking of :shock:

It must be well and truly past the days now when said item is now referred to as a folder and not a directory.

Every time I right click it says "New Folder".

 

[oz_mark]

It must be well and truly past the days now when said item is now referred to as a folder and not a directory.

I am not sure what you mean by this? Folders are a well accepted part of the user interface on many device types.

 

[anat0l]

I am not sure what you mean by this? Folders are a well accepted part of the user interface on many device types.

The use of the folder metaphor is indeed well accepted part of the UI and greatly assists in understanding the purpose of such logical structures.

However, the technical term for said logical structure is directory. Well, at least about a decade and a bit ago that was the case. I think the only people who say 'directory' now are the die-hard old-timers and people who use *nix (except for the ultra-die-hards who absolutely insist that everything is a file). Now it's just easier to adopt the metaphor as the technical term and thus now they are all just called folders.

 

[medhead]

The use of the folder metaphor is indeed well accepted part of the UI and greatly assists in understanding the purpose of such logical structures.

However, the technical term for said logical structure is directory. Well, at least about a decade and a bit ago that was the case. I think the only people who say 'directory' now are the die-hard old-timers and people who use *nix (except for the ultra-die-hards who absolutely insist that everything is a file). Now it's just easier to adopt the metaphor as the technical term and thus now they are all just called folders.

But that's the point, isn't it? Directory is the technical term but it is well past the days where that term is commonly used as it has been supplanted by the "new" term folder.

 

[serfty]

Of course, for us old time IT people, we get continue to get blank looks when we refer to 'records' rather than 'rows'.

 

[oz_mark]

The use of the folder metaphor is indeed well accepted part of the UI and greatly assists in understanding the purpose of such logical structures.

However, the technical term for said logical structure is directory. Well, at least about a decade and a bit ago that was the case. I think the only people who say 'directory' now are the die-hard old-timers and people who use *nix (except for the ultra-die-hards who absolutely insist that everything is a file). Now it's just easier to adopt the metaphor as the technical term and thus now they are all just called folders.

Actually, in many environments, directories are a subset of folders, as folders are sometimes used to represent more than just the underlying directory structure. They are also sometimes presented as an abstract concept, rather than a file path. (e.g My Documents is a folder, but as an abstract concept it removes from the user the issue that it has moved around on different versions on the OS)

 

[anat0l]

But that's the point, isn't it? Directory is the technical term but it is well past the days where that term is commonly used as it has been supplanted by the "new" term folder.

Which is fair.

Perhaps my point was interpreted as a dig at the use of 'folder' vs. 'directory', when in fact it was just an observation (just as if I were to observe that the command prompt, despite its incredible capabilities, is becoming less and less prevalent in modern day operating systems (except for, once again, the die-hard old-timers and *nix!)).

Sorry for those that were oppressed - it wasn't intended.

Of course, for us old time IT people, we get continue to get blank looks when we refer to 'records' rather than 'rows'.

Having done a few courses in databases, I appreciate this observation, although in DBMS circles the use of the term 'tuple' is probably more common.

 

[NM]

Of course, for us old time IT people, we get continue to get blank looks when we refer to 'records' rather than 'rows'.

or use the term "card" for the same

 

[oz_mark]

Having done a few courses in databases, I appreciate this observation, although in DBMS circles the use of the term 'tuple' is probably more common.

It is surprising, though, how many people in the DBMS world don't know what the term 'relational database' actually refers to!

I am sure everyone here knows that a relation is a set of tuples!

(Mind you, none of the DBA's I have worked with ever used the word 'tuple' - not even the ultra pedantic Oracle DBA's )

 

[oz_mark]

It must be well and truly past the days now when said item is now referred to as a folder and not a directory.

Perhaps my point was interpreted as a dig at the use of 'folder' vs. 'directory', when in fact it was just an observation (just as if I were to observe that the command prompt, despite its incredible capabilities, is becoming less and less prevalent in modern day operating systems (except for, once again, the die-hard old-timers and *nix!)).

Not so much a dig, but I certainly interpreted your sentence to mean that we are now past calling it a folder, and are calling it a directory.

 

[medhead]

Not so much a dig, but I certainly interpreted your sentence to mean that we are now past calling it a folder, and are calling it a directory.

Yeah. I didn't see it as a dig, just wondered if the order was mixed up.


The card comment
What a card...

 

[whereishome]

iPad 2 today! Perfect for the upcoming Japan trip!

 

[Flashback]

Happy to report that my friend is doing really well now and has moved out of ICU so I shall get to catch up with him in a much better state when I arrive in 2 weeks!

 

[anat0l]

Happy to report that my friend is doing really well now and has moved out of ICU so I shall get to catch up with him in a much better state when I arrive in 2 weeks!

That's excellent news, D1.

 

[serfty]

I can't bring myself to even look at this thread:

http://www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au/community/open-discussion/carbon-tax-29438.html

As a moderator I should, but such threads are generally enthusiastically populated by people beating their own drum on the topic and refusing to ingest a view contrary to their own. It is an absolute pain. :-|

Apologies to those who who have posted reasonably on that thread.

 

[anat0l]

I can't bring myself to even look at this thread:

http://www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au/community/open-discussion/carbon-tax-29438.html

As a moderator I should, but such threads are generally enthusiastically populated by people beating their own drum on the topic and refusing to ingest a view contrary to their own. It is an absolute pain. :-|

Apologies to those who who have posted reasonably on that thread.

Thanks. I guess I should feel ashamed. :-|

I suppose the remainder of the moderators are drawing straws (or other equivalent task) to work out who will keep tabs on the thread. Although being inside I can vouch that the vitriol has not been ordered quite yet.