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Once spam starts arriving to your email address it just does not stop.

Canadian pharmac_! SP casino! Baby, where did you go???? Do we have a job for you! Go bigger! I do not even want to see it in my junk folder. Any chance of getting rid of it without changing email addresses?

Have been getting much the same. Not quite sure what to make of it all. Somehow I don't think using a Canadian pharmac_ & SP casino is going to make my life more interesting. Not that I have time to read all the promotional material they send me. :oops:
 
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Get a more aggressive spam filter. Although you risk losing other bits and pieces that you may want. Also blocking the domain and not just the individaul email address. Beyond that, not easy. I'm getting the same spam as you by the sounds - maybe it's from AFF?
I am constrained by whatever Hotmail provides. Perhaps I should look at their spam filter. There is not much that gets in to my junk folder that I actually need but occasionally some useful stuff gets in there so I still need to check my Junk folder. I just do not want to do it everyday.

I was talking with someone at golf yesterday and he uses Optus as his ISP and he did not receive an email from another of the golfers even though I saw his name on the mailing list. I believe he has an aggressive spam filter from Optus.

As for blocking domain names how is it done? Just received an email from [email protected] for RolexReplicaWatches. So which is the domain name? And then tomorrow I get the same email from [email protected] for RolexReplicaWatches. I can add each of these addresses to my blocked list but they just keep devising more and more useless email addresses.

It would be nice if one could simply say block all email from unregistered email addresses or email addresses that are not valid.
 
RIP Ian Turpie, I have been enjoying your work in later years especially swift and shift, you will be missed!
 
I am constrained by whatever Hotmail provides. Perhaps I should look at their spam filter. There is not much that gets in to my junk folder that I actually need but occasionally some useful stuff gets in there so I still need to check my Junk folder. I just do not want to do it everyday.

Usually you should be able to check what's there without needing to open it - this saves a lot of time, though the problem does start to get annoying if you get pages upon pages of spam.

Hotmail being one of the early pioneers of web based mail and a successful one at that will always be a huge target of spam.

Note that an effective spam filter or strategy is usually at best allowing you to not see spam in your Inbox (viz. it lands in your Spam or Junk folder instead). It doesn't mean that it stops you from receiving said spam altogether in the first place.

I was talking with someone at golf yesterday and he uses Optus as his ISP and he did not receive an email from another of the golfers even though I saw his name on the mailing list. I believe he has an aggressive spam filter from Optus.

You have to be careful on how spam filters are set up. I wonder if Optus filters some "suspicious" web mail addresses thus preventing delivery.

Generally, I think spam filters treat web mail addresses (hotmail.com, yahoo.com etc.) as higher threats than others; ditto if you have an attachment (and some clients / mail hosts will ban the delivery of certain attachments altogether, e.g. vbs or exe files).

As for blocking domain names how is it done? Just received an email from [email protected] for RolexReplicaWatches. So which is the domain name? And then tomorrow I get the same email from [email protected] for RolexReplicaWatches. I can add each of these addresses to my blocked list but they just keep devising more and more useless email addresses.

Given an email address johncitizen [at] someaddress [dot] com, the domain name would be someaddress [dot] com.

Unfortunately blocking domains is only really effective for companies which send you annoying emails which you can't unsubscribe but you'd like to filter as spam. For real spam robots or idiots out there, as you can see they can quickly eclipse such tactics. Spam filters then rely on the content or type of domain to filter out these messages.

Once again, spam filters do not auto-delete these emails unless you set up a mail handling procedure to do so.

I believe in Hotmail it is quite possible to set the spam filter to a very high level such that email that comes from addresses that are registered in your safe list or in your address book will arrive in your Inbox, with the balance going to Junk. This of course will rely on some period of 'intervention' where you'll need to carefully check your Junk folder for legitimate emails (mostly mass mailings, e.g. from Qantas or the like) and set up addresses or filters to mark such emails as "not spam".

It would be nice if one could simply say block all email from unregistered email addresses or email addresses that are not valid.

There's really no such thing as an "unregistered email address", except one which equates to the same thing below (i.e. one that "bounces")...

Email addresses which are not valid doesn't quite work either. Some addresses which are used to send spam (even by robots) are actually valid, but of course if you send a reply to them then perhaps the chances you may get a reply are nil. If you receive spam from the classic Nigerian 401 spammer, then of course the email is going to be valid, so that fails. Finally, many companies that do mass distribution emails use a "no-reply" email to send out their emails (with the mailing list in blind carbon copy), incidentally to avoid creating a spam problem for themselves.
 
There's really no such thing as an "unregistered email address", except one which equates to the same thing below (i.e. one that "bounces")...

Email addresses which are not valid doesn't quite work either. Some addresses which are used to send spam (even by robots) are actually valid, but of course if you send a reply to them then perhaps the chances you may get a reply are nil. If you receive spam from the classic Nigerian 401 spammer, then of course the email is going to be valid, so that fails. Finally, many companies that do mass distribution emails use a "no-reply" email to send out their emails (with the mailing list in blind carbon copy), incidentally to avoid creating a spam problem for themselves.
The ones I am mainly worried about are the ones that originate somewhere in the Eastern block and get sent repetitively.

And what is wrong with having a feature where the email address is actually checked before the email is accepted? A do_not_reply email address would actually be valid and registered even though someone would not read the emails sent to this address. The fake email address(es) used by Yevgeny on the other hand would not be valid and if they were then I would be spamming the hell out of them.

And I may not be the same as you but I see people sending email to my junk mail as an invasion of my privacy. Especially the same rubbish over and over. Perhaps I am asking for too much in this day and age where anything is possible.

Actually that gives me a thought. If only I was able to send spam emails.
 
Went out for lunch today and parked in a shopping centre with one of those Pay & Display parking systems.

Returned to my car to find a parking ticket attatched to my windscreen, and an $88 "payment notice" for "breach of the contractual terms and conditions" being charged for liquidated damages. I've heard they've got no way legally enforcing these sort of private car park tickets.

If I was in the wrong, I would have paid it, but the EFTPOS on the Machine wasen't working, and only accepted $1 coins, and it was a Sunday after all! Not to mention, I hate these large car park companies with a passion.

Read the ticket, and they've miss typed my number plate, listed the state as Victoria, and put in the wrong model of my car. I'll take that as a win.
 
They have no way of enforcing it. If they did Wilson's would of confiscated my car by now!!!
 
They have no way of enforcing it. If they did Wilson's would of confiscated my car by now!!! 

That's what I've been told, they can send me as many letters as they want.

I'm surprised they even legally have access to finding my address based on my number plate.
 
RIP Ian Turpie, I have been enjoying your work in later years especially swift and shift, you will be missed!


Wow that's sad. I'm not that old but I remember his big bushy 'tache being over the TV a lot when I grew up. Press your luck, The New Price is Right. RIP Turps!
 
Wow that's sad. I'm not that old but I remember his big bushy 'tache being over the TV a lot when I grew up. Press your luck, The New Price is Right. RIP Turps!

And I do believe he was recently on the SBS show 'Housos'.

Hopefully he wasn't asked to 'come on down' as it were.
 
And I do believe he was recently on the SBS show 'Housos'.

Hopefully he wasn't asked to 'come on down' as it were.

It's a shame his generally excellent career was marred by the stupid erectile dysfunction sprays for AMI he advertised. Perhaps he was short of cash (he should have 'come on down' instead of hosting the show perhaps ;))
 
It's a shame his generally excellent career was marred by the stupid erectile dysfunction sprays for AMI he advertised. Perhaps he was short of cash (he should have 'come on down' instead of hosting the show perhaps ;))

His only fault was being human, a fault that some of us forget we are all guilty of!
 
His only fault was being human, a fault that some of us forget we are all guilty of!
Agreed we are all indeed only human, however it's just strange that someone of such a high standing would do something so dubious (It's not like AMI had not been hauled over the coals by the ACCC and every other current 'affairs' program about dodgyness).

Either way, Still a brilliant man lost to a tragic disease.
 
RIP Ian Turpie, I have been enjoying your work in later years especially swift and shift, you will be missed!

It is a bit of a shock to hear that Ian Turpie had died, I guess the stuff you read on the Off Topic Thread. Who needs news; if its important it will get a mention.

Also interesting that today is 1 year since the Japanese earthquake and tsunami.

Life goes past so fast.
 
And what is wrong with having a feature where the email address is actually checked before the email is accepted? A do_not_reply email address would actually be valid and registered even though someone would not read the emails sent to this address.

No, many "do not reply" email addresses are not valid, i.e. if you send a message to them, they will bounce. That is the point of the "anti-spam" measure, i.e. if it bounces, a robot is less likely to pick it up and move on. Of course, "robots" have been "getting smarter" with these now...

Some "do not reply" email addresses may be valid, but otherwise would just be a repository which is not checked. It's just more time and cost efficient to have a bouncing address. It also gives recipients the "right message" (i.e. legitimate ones), i.e. if they try to send a reply and get a bounce, then they're more likely to realise they've done the wrong thing (i.e. go find the correct email to send replies / feedback). If they reply and instead get accepted to a "black hole" of an address, they get no response and will be confused when their message doesn't get answered for a long time.

The fake email address(es) used by Yevgeny on the other hand would not be valid and if they were then I would be spamming the hell out of them.

As I said, some are valid and some are not, so some will bounce, but others will not. Nigerian 401 scam emails are typically responsive, which is of course the vehicle by which they start working on their victims.

And I may not be the same as you but I see people sending email to my junk mail as an invasion of my privacy. Especially the same rubbish over and over. Perhaps I am asking for too much in this day and age where anything is possible.

The best you can do is filter spam straight to your trash on a perma-delete. Of course, you'll still have the problem of the odd legitimate email which will fall into the trap, and in the latter case you won't even know it until the sender perhaps prompts you in another manner.

Spam is getting smarter, unfortunately, and the task of filtering the good from the bad is both subjective and, as hard as it is to believe, a non-trivial undertaking. For example, I keep getting spam in Hotmail about Facebook friends inviting me. Facebook itself is legitimate (and let's not debate that point here) and so is inviting friends, but these invitations I'm getting are obviously spoofs.

Actually that gives me a thought. If only I was able to send spam emails.

I'm sure there must be enough underground sites out there that could teach you how to set up a spam robot.

Of course, make sure you don't get caught - there are laws against spamming and there are notable penalties. Unfortunately, there aren't a lot of resources out there dedicated to catching spammers, and spammers are already and increasingly notoriously difficult to catch anyway (and let's not even start to get into establishing a burden of proof).
 
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