ah didnt see that - deleted.As per post 30
ah didnt see that - deleted.As per post 30
As I said upthread I don't expect QF to run a lone flight to NRT as it presents challenges operationally as well. They can also funnel people through the other flight connections for those SYD pax.Executive Traveller thinks that QF59/60, the current SYD-HND day flights will move to NRT, but Qantas hasn't said anything about it yet. QF currently uses 4 A330s for Tokyo flights. The suggested times for the 3 slots at HND would require 3 aircraft. Which means they either fly the 4th as SYD-NRT or move the aircraft to some other route (maybe SYD-KIX?).
SYD<->HND back to red eyes each way is a bit of a bummer but I assume those aircraft aren’t “return to sender” ie a/c from SYD does the BNE run? So excellent utilisation and none of that sitting around all day.I really like that the Brisbane flights will be daytime services!
JQ already sells SYD-NRT, via CNS or BNE, adding a tag just adds extra cost to the operation.5 of the current 6 AU-HND flights are SYD-HND. Aren't loads down across those 5 flights? Maybe there doesn't need to be 5 daily SYD-TYO flights.
If JQ was to pick up SYD-NRT, it would likely be a domestic tag flight to one of their existing AU-NRT flights. SYD-BNE-NRT or SYD-CNS-NRT.
I'll take the extra tag though visit to QF FJQ already sells SYD-NRT, via CNS or BNE, adding a tag just adds extra cost to the operation.
5 of the current 6 AU-HND flights are SYD-HND. Aren't loads down across those 5 flights? Maybe there doesn't need to be 5 daily SYD-TYO flights.
QF and ANA moved their SYD-NRT flights to HND when they got the AU/HND night slots.Anecdotal I know, but I flew SYD-HND (NH890, 11:50 departure) last Monday and when I checked in they got me to confirm my seat selection as the flight was full. I didn't realise there were so many flights a day.
I just think they're just pruning back JP after the peak April season when their 330s start hitting the shop for refit. They're supposed to start by June 2025.Maybe QF will go for a second attempt at a JL JV.
This is similar to the QF/AA playbook. Cut back services, wait, then put in a submission arguing how it's in the public's interest.
5 of the current 6 AU-HND flights are SYD-HND. Aren't loads down across those 5 flights? Maybe there doesn't need to be 5 daily SYD-TYO flights.
If JQ was to pick up SYD-NRT, it would likely be a domestic tag flight to one of their existing AU-NRT flights. SYD-BNE-NRT or SYD-CNS-NRT.
I think the whole market is a bit over capacity... JAL has a better load factor than ANA for example, who are regularly around 50-60% so they are probably more likely to drop or rejig something.Coming through SYD intl a few times I’ve noticed the JAL flight load is listed in the low 100s. This was a 777 as well. I suspect JL has the weakest brand of the operators to/from Australia, but they’re still pretty poor numbers.
JAL has the better brand in Australia. They've been flying to Australia for much longer then ANA has.Coming through SYD intl a few times I’ve noticed the JAL flight load is listed in the low 100s. This was a 777 as well. I suspect JL has the weakest brand of the operators to/from Australia, but they’re still pretty poor numbers.
Back in the 747 SYD-TYO days, almost every time I flew on QF21/22 (NRT) or QF25/26 and wasn't already in J, I got an opup because Y was oversold with school groups.I always thought JAL are playing at a slightly different game since their Y is so low density, so they're probably chasing a higher fare over volume like ANA, QF etc have to... Every time I fly QF in/out of HND it seems like Y is mostly school groups.
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Confirmed - https://www.iasc.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2024-iasc-122-qf-japan.pdf
Looking forward to MEL-HND returning.