UK - in or out of the EU? Travel Issues?

[whatmeworry]

Re: UK - in or out of the EU?

Top questions about the EU after Brexit.

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Brits start Googling 'what is the EU?' after Brexit referendum result is announced

 

[MEL_Traveller]

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I'm sick of idiots who can't understand the whole EU debate bundling me up as a low educated, school dropout xenephobic chav who lives on welfare. I voted out for specific reasons that are already discussed in this thread, plus others that I haven't discussed.

Exactly.

At the end of the day, those wanting to 'remain' simply didn't do a good enough job of getting their point across.

Alliances forming and breaking up have been going on for millennia. Life will go on. Europe needs UK trade and tourism and the same in reverse.

The press is scratching around for whatever they can ... series of articles on the 'implications for Aussie passport holders' - all seeming to forget that Aussies never had a free and unfettered right to live and work in the UK, or to travel freely and unfettered for as long as they wanted between the UK and Europe - passport controls and timing restrictions were always in place.

As for super and investments - this referendum has been known about for a long time. Most super funds have the ability for people to move their investment mix out of the share market and into cash - provided you do it by the stipulated cut-off date in the month. Those who wanted to protect their super balances may have wanted to consider that option.

 

[DaveB]

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There is a difference between never being in an allegiance, and pulling out of one.

On the other hand, some countries in Europe are a cot case. But isnt that what allegiances are all about?

That to me is the heart of the EU problem. Expecting 5 or 6 countries to constantly pick up the ouzo tabs of the basket cases was surely never it's intention being initially involving only high GDP countries of Europe.

Sure leaving creates some short term issues, particularly involving personalities. With the UK contributing more to NATO financially than any other Euro country, doubt it will get treated any different to the Swiss.

The EU to me clearly lost its way once the original intention of full financial and social integration of member countries became nothing more than a fading pipe dream largely due to the deep rooted tribal differences.

The common currency was supposed to involve similar economic standards and fiscal responsibility which everyone conveniently turned a blind eye to until debt levels became unsustainable, even in this artificial and unprecendented low interest rate climate. Expanding the EU to include all the 'cot cases' hopefully had a purpose other than just make Russia feel hedged in. To me, this would have ultimately lead to its demise with the Brexit just accelerating the process.

Brexit at least gives the EU an out in that it can now embrace Scotland down the track. In 2014, internal member pressures prevented it from embracing a new breakaway member that would have lead to the break up of other countries like Spain to surely follow.

 

[RooFlyer]

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Just heard an ABC radio report that EU President Juncker has said that the Brits should not wait for Cameron to go (ie October) to start the Brexit process, but should start the process ASAP "however painful that process may be". The arrogance of the man ... and he (and others) may wonder why many Brits resented to EU.

I looked the guy up ... and he has form ...

'Deserters will not be welcomed back’, Juncker warns UK voters

BRUSSELS chief Jean-Claude Juncker warned Britain could spark World War Three if it votes to leave the European Union (EU).

 

[vetrade]

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Brits start Googling 'what is the EU?' after Brexit referendum result is announced

Obviously you're erroneously implying the people who voted "Leave" are idiots who didn't understand what they voted for and had to google it afterwards to find out.
Equally plausible would be the possibility that people who voted "Remain" were googling to find out what the majority knew but they didn't.

The real answer is that now the result is known, many people, irrespective of how they voted, have an interest in finding out more about what will happen now. Good on all of 'em.

 

[vetrade]

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If Margaret Thatcher was alive today well may she say "The EU is wonderful...........until you run out of other people's money."

 

[RooFlyer]

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If Margaret Thatcher was alive today well may she say "The EU is wonderful...........until you run out of other people's money."

Brilliant. I've just finished reading Thatcher's autobiography, including her battles with the EU bureaucracy. They could do with someone like her now.

 

[Pushka]

UK - in or out of the EU?

Agree re looking at risk re Super Funds. But what other options are there for people in SMSF at retirement age? Cash - cough interest. Housing - $$$ to outlay in duties, holding costs then selling issues.

I dont think the people who voted 'leave' are idiots. And I'm betting if W. Australia had this choice they would have left long ago.

 

[TonyHancock]

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Top questions about the EU after Brexit.

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Brits start Googling 'what is the EU?' after Brexit referendum result is announced

My first thought was that it might be the "young people" who have been "made to suffer" by the "baby boomers" voting to leave, but on reflection I realise that most "young people" I have met in the UK would be unable to spell EU.

 

[wandering_fred]

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The EU vote.

Arguments including serious discussions on immigration (accompanied by lack if assimilation) and regulations (not laws) passed by unelected bureaucrats. I wonder if the politicians in the USA will take notice of the recent outcomes of such discussions in the UK.

Is Australia far enough away to avoid the unintended consequences of these "interesting times"?

(while you can) Happy wandering

Fred

 

[Pushka]

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More thoughts. Surely an allegiance/union is like a marriage? It is never going to be all roses and expecting it to be that way is naive. Sometimes you need to give, sometimes you get to take. Good and the bad. This cycle - Britain are giving. Next cycle? Who knows. Maybe it will be their turn to need the members of the Union.

 

[amaroo]

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The search term 'Immigration to Australia' had a spike recently.

Hilarious! Given the two main leave advocates talked excessively about emulating Australian policies

 

[Geegeela]

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https://supportourjeremy.wordpress....to-what-the-voters-are-really-saying-friends/

 

[whatmeworry]

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Only Britain soldiers on.

[video=youtube;wZ9J-dxEgY4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ9J-dxEgY4[/video]

 

[Foreigner]

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Just heard an ABC radio report that EU President Juncker has said that the Brits should not wait for Cameron to go (ie October) to start the Brexit process, but should start the process ASAP "however painful that process may be". The arrogance of the man ... and he (and others) may wonder why many Brits resented to EU.

I looked the guy up ... and he has form ...

Well, the vote has been taken so there's no point in sitting on the fence.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

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Agree re looking at risk re Super Funds. But what other options are there for people in SMSF at retirement age? Cash - cough interest. Housing - $$$ to outlay in duties, holding costs then selling issues.

SMSF may be an issue - but for something like an industry super fund we can elect to go in (all cash) one month, and change back the month after. yes it takes planning (for those who are really interested), but in some cases we're talking about huge sums of money that people stand to lose.

 

[marki]

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On the other hand central banks around the world have been trying very hard to cheapen their currencies to stimulate their economies.The UK has pulled off a brilliant move.
So are all the others just wrong and getting a lower currency to stimulate your economy is just balderdash?

War of the worlds is it not ?

 

[RooFlyer]

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Well, the vote has been taken so there's no point in sitting on the fence.

Sure, but they voted to leave, the British PM has said what will happen, and the EU el Presidente is still trying to tell them how to run their country.

 

[marki]

What a short sighted emotional decision. I'm not sure it should have been decided this way, Cameron's legacy really now is Brexit - he opened the door, let it happen and now it's happened.... 'Oh yeah I'm not going to be the one steering a sinking shop through uncharted waters, see ya'.
I feel sorry for the UK actually, I think the arguments to stay were so blindingly clear and obvious no one around the world thought they would vote otherwise but their flawed 'referendum' mechanic has delivered something that will now most probably make the whole population poorer, the country marginalised and probably even smaller if the rumblings in Ireland and Scotland manifest, and they will be living in a state of uncertainty for years to come.
My British mates are already messaging, asking about the job market here. Could be great for Aussie businesses, attract some bright minds over, pinch some business.
I'm a dual citizen and today my maroon passport looks very different.

Pauly7 will you listen to me and accept 3 people from overseas to live with you today now?


I didn't think you would, I was unelected by you to represent you and am faceless yet I will fine you for not taking these people.

There that's a good reason to abandon what I represent the EU.

The U.K. Ain't that weak and is a mighty empire, so scare tactics won't frighten it . The sky has not fallen today nor in the future.

Get over it people

And there are likely just as many highly skilled, highly educated people who voted stay.

Hence the correlation was silly either way

You keep dreaming. Tell me how it feels when England is by itself and in a long recession.

These are scare tactics by thee of little faith

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.........snip......You have to laugh when financial advisors etc. pontificate as if they are the all-knowing bastions of financial market investment knowledge and the implications of things like Brexit on financial markets. Maybe their real agenda is different to the hype. The truth is a lot of them are only experts in emptying money from your pockets into theirs – and whether your investments rise or fall in value under their advice they still take their fees irrespective. A very wise and wealthy mentor of mine once told me never to forget that those who control financial investment markets primarily use it to transfer money from those who have little to those who have a lot.

Now I'll put my helmet on and wait for the responses.

Love the part above

 

[parsonstrish]

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Regardless what way people thought vote should go, I have family in England, their experience was to remain. They are very worried for their and their children's future.